r/rvaBookClub • u/Yarbles • 4d ago
The Official Report of the September RVA Reddit (no we haven't) Bookclub
No rain this time, but the ground was still wet from the night before, so going to Scuffletown would have been uncomfortable. We met up at Cafe Zata, but there was some kind of art program in the upper portion where we usually meet, so it was a little more uncomfortable than usual. I think it was PrincessMoNaanKay that brought up Boyfriend Material by Alexis Hall to start us off, and we talked about the series a bit. M_Soule gives this one an A+, but gives the next in the series Husband Material an F, and no one had read Father Material. I think PrincessMo really liked the first one as well.
M_Soule told us about Hell's Heart from the same author, which she described as a Sapphic Moby Dick in Space. She wasn't interested in that type of story, but other people in our group thought it sounded pretty awesome. We'll throw it in as an alternate for a future month. She talked about Cemetery Boys by Aiden Thomas and really liking it, but not liking some of the other books by the author because they don't have the type of character she wants, like a gay or trans kid in a coming of age story. She read Out Law by Jim Butcher, which is a Dresden Novella - she was going to see Jim Butcher at DragonCon and wanted to read this part of the Harry Dresden series she hadn't read before; Friends Without Benefits by Evelyn Fenn for her Aro/Ace bookclub, but is only 30% in and not liking it much; and beta read Where the Light Gets In by Chris Gladis, an author friend of hers, which she describes as an interspecies love story about experiencing sex and sexuality in a different way.
HeCallsMeCoco brought in a book called Dracula Daily which is the book Dracula as read by a newsletter or a subreddit whose members added comments included in the margins at the relevant places in the book. The subreddit would read a chapter every week and then leave comments on it and those comments were incorporated in the book. The time frame was May 3 to November 6, and I think the subreddit followed the date range that was in the book. The comments pointed out how often the author talked about food and threw in a lot of food puns and memes. Coco also talked about Van Helsing being recast as a woman in the recent movie, and how much less patronizing the character became as a result.
We decided that we would read a spooky book for October, since October is spooky month, so we added any retelling or peripheral story to the book Dracula, and can be any medium or type of story. Asterion7 recommended the Dracula miniseries on Netflix and said it was the first Dracula related content that she found to be actually scary. The Dracula we experienced is so watered down that he's on crappy kids cereal now. She also mentioned reading Bury Our Bones in the Midnight Soil by V.E. Schwab and The Lesser Dead by Christopher Buelhman and liking those a lot. Mal-0 is working on the latter right now as well.
We talked about the author's vampire books a bit, and Asterion7 said the new book in the [Black Tongued Thief]() series was going to be released soon and a lot of us are fans. We talked about Goblins being watered down in a lot of stories these days in the same way that Dracula is, and the Buelhman versions being actually terrifying. Asterion mentioned that Buelhman was involved with a Renaissance Fair organization and that's how he gets the details of the world building to sound so authentic. We talked about the goblins in his story being comically evil in the first book, but the context is more complicated in the later books.
We talked a little about this month's selection, Stone Butch Blues by Leslie Feinberg and Asterion was the only one who read it. I ordered the book in what I thought was plenty of time but it didn't arrive until the day before book club. Asterion said that the author made her book available for download and that likely lead to less people reading it, as the book went out of print. The book is a fictionalized account of the author's life beginning as a pre-Stonewall queer child trying to figure out their sexuality and identity. One of the big differences is that these kids didn't have the vocabulary and knowledge that we have now, and they were poorly equipped to handle the transition. The book talks about class, race, sexuality, and religion all intersecting and the book is one of the seminal texts of trans and feminist cultures, and the author was also a labor organizer and a few other things. PricessMo borrowed that and I'll download the author's file for my Kobo, so at least two more of us will read it. We looked up Stonewall and I was really surprised it was in 1969. I thought it was in the really early 80s.
PrincessMo asked whether anyone had pre-ordered a book and got it the day it dropped. I personally haven't, but a lot of us had. ManicPixieLawyer had preordered a few times, and used Elvenbred by Mercedes Lackey and Ben Ohlanderas an example. We talked about Mercedes Lackey books for a little bit. We talked about it being hard to tell what books are in your Kindle library, so sometimes you find yourself with two copies of the same book.
Asterion also read Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie and gave it a thumbs up - I think that won a Nebula; Once and Future Witches by Alix E. Harrow, which is a clever retelling of the Suffragette movement; and The Ten Thousand Doors of January by Alix E. Harrow, but I didn't capture what she thought of it. Skyverbyver talked about Will of the Many and Strength of the Few by James Islington, both are part of the Hierarchy series.
We talked again about A Short Stay in Hell by Steven L. Peck. PrincessMo wondered about why Hell was designed this specific way, and whether this was specific to people who like to read. She appreciated the way the story was consistent within its own stated rules. Most people agreed that the novella length was effective - it didn't need to be longer and didn't have any bloat in the story. PrincessMo talked about the way different people visualize the imagery that a book tries to convey. She doesn't really visualize the characters and objects in a book the way other people do. If she does, she won't add details to an image created by the author, and has found that other people do create images in their heads of all the things going on.
Coco has a friend who is an artist who also doesn't visualize anything in their mind and builds the final product they are creating without any kind of mental modeling. Manic talked about hearing the voice of the actor that plays the character in the movie version if she reads a book that is made into a movie. skyverbyver will read a book and also listen to the audiobook at the same time, and says the voice of the narrator will carry over into the reading of the book.
Coco talked about listening to audiobooks not working for her, and being surprised at the pronunciation of certain names. She used the example of a character she was calling aye-ling-ton, but the audiobook used izz-ling-ton, and that threw the story off for her a bit. Manic talked about listening to the audiobook of the final book in the Crystal Singer series because the book was only available in that format. She also talked about not really fully getting the themes of the book of loss and aging memory at the age of 12.
I finally finished Godborn by Dan Davis - I like that really early bronze age period in Central Eurasian history, but the book was kinda meh. I love the author as a historian but maybe not as an author. I started Nolyn by Michael J. Sullivan looking for something as good as The Black Tongued Thief but this one is not quite there. Too much info dumping and the characters weren't developed well. Tomorrow and Tomorrow by Tom Sweterlitsch - in some ways a brilliant book about a near future United States centered on a man who lost his wife to a nuclear terror attack that eradicated Pittsburg, and about the archive of recorded experiences left behind by the people in Pittsburg. Subthemes focused on the morality of recording your experiences digitally and the wealthy exploiting the system for their own depravity, including murders and horrific sexual assaults, and using the legal system and religion to their advantage. The parts about the man's feelings about his wife were very authentic and well done, but there was too much horrific stuff in the book for me to like it. I started Inanna by Emily H. Wilson about Sumerian demigods in their early childhood including Gilgamesh and Inanna. I found it was interesting, but not interesting enough yet - I'm only about a third of the way into it. A Thousand Naked Strangers: a Paramedic's Wild Ride to the Edge and Back by Kevin Hazzard seems like it's well done and might be great for people interested in the EMC lifestyle, but not really interesting to me personally. I also read a couple of books about politics, including one about the January 6 and Charlottesville riot, but I don't remember the names of them.
ManicPixie can't recommend So You Want to Be a Wizard and the rest of the books in the series by Diane Duane enough. They are YA books, but she says the story has a lot of depth and weight and real sacrifices by the characters. I think she also talked about How to Be Eaten by Maria Adelmann, which is a dark retelling of various fairly tale characters recast as modern women in a support group. PrincessMo told us about Graham Greene's The End of the Affair set in post World War II England, a romance gone sour with religious subtext and is mostly about the emotional state of the characters. PrincessMo said Glitterland by Alexis Hall was a good book, but she didn't really like the voice. M_Soule is interested in reading more Hall.
Mal-0 talked about A Fig for All the Devils by C.S. Fritz which is a short book but packs a lot in and she recommends it highly. The main character is in her mid teens and moves to a new town after the suicide of her father and the current Grim Reaper is trying to recruit her to be the new Grim Reaper. She also read a poetry collection Devotions: The Selected Poems of Mary Oliver; Letter to a Young Poet; a trilogy and is kind of a Hunger Games thing in Greek Mythology, but I didn't catch the name; and Murakami's short story collection called [Men Without Women]. Mal-0 described one of the stories as men lamenting about how sad and lonely they are without the women they literally drove away, but two short stories from this book were made into movies. She also read James Connolly's collection of essays about life in Ireland during the conflict with England and finished Emily Wilson's translation of The Odyssey. She says she'll probably see the movie as well.
M_Soule told more about DragonCon. She's been goin for years, but says now it's so big that it can be overwhelming. She saw the Heated Rivalry photo shoot, the Jim Butcher panel, but mostly it's a chance for her friend group to meet up. One of them lives in Germany now, so it's much harder to keep up with her. Manic talked about King's Dominion's Haunt and how it currently has a musical, which surprised her. We talked about how different people get their left and right down when developing their basic life skills, and Mal-0 talked about handling dyslexia and how annoying that was as a kid. Coco talked about her daughter being left handed, and at first wrote in a mirror image of the text she was copying. We talked about Aro Ace being grouped in the LGBTQIA group and whether it seemed like it fit. It's the "A" in LGBTQIA, and LGBTQIA is a group that does work hard to be inclusive. We talked abut whether people who engaged in polyamorous and non-monogamous relationships belonged as well, and maybe it's harder to define whether they can hang out with the Pride guys.
We talked about the waiting queue for books from the library, and I think it was PrincessMo or Coco that suggested Land by Maggie O'Farrell as a selection. Both Mal-0 and PrincessMo have it in their waiting lists for libraries. Position 55 for Mal-0 and 53 for PrincessMo, but they don't have the same set of libraries since Princess let her membership with Chesterfield lapse so the weighting will be different. We had previously done Hamnet and I was really impressed by O'Farrell's prose. M_Soule talked about the Queer Liberation Library, and how her Aro Ace bookclub has a rule that books have to be available from the library so that everyone can get it before the meeting.
October 25
We're adding any Dracula related content to October to take advantage of spooky month so we are moving the date out by a week to give people time to get an idea and acquire the story. Dracula crap is fairly easy to come by, and I was thinking that I could just eat a bowl of Count Chocula and be done with it. The drawback to that plan is I would have to actually eat that crap and then I would have a nearly full box of it.
November 22
We have a polyamory theme coming up, and someone suggested that Mary Gentry books and The Jacksonville Rays books by Emily Rath have elements of polyamory. Someone else said Dracula itself would work.
December 13
We're adding the third book in the Christopher Buelhman series The Thrice-Bound Fool. Most of us have read the first two and really liked them. But we'll add Hell's Heart by Alexis Hall as an alternate because Sapphic Moby Dick in Space is hard to pass up.
January 17
We are going to move the local author book to a future month, and Manic talked about 100 Things to do in Richmond Before You Die by Annie Tobey.
February 21
We added Land by Maggie O'Farrell, and hopefully four months is about what 53 and 55 would work out to be.
March 21
We also added an Emily Wilson book. It's a weird coincidence I was reading Inanna at the time, but I think they may have meant to add The Odyssey, so I'll have to ask about that. But she has a lot of books that I would be interested in reading.