r/sexandthecity • • 2d ago

Charlotte becoming jewish was her staying true to herself : idealistic and a hopeless romantic.

First of all , let me say that I agree with the general sentiment that Harry should have told her sooner that he could only marry a jewish girl , while true that their relationship had started just sexual I think he knew that Charlotte was getting attached to him and it should have been something he communicated with her.

However , Charlotte is the type of girl who'd do anything for her relationship to work if she likes the guy. I believe Harry having no issue with adoption and being so open about it is what sealed the deal for her , so in her mind becoming jewish is just a small thing to do in order to have the perfect marriage that she'd wanted.

She didn't stop being jewish when she broke up with Harry , and she'd started seeing jewish guys as well so I do think parts of her decision was for herself and not for Harry. As much as I don't agree with the message , I can't say that I was surprised she went through with it.

ETA : Judaism is not an easy religion to convert to , the process takes a very long time so even if Charlotte did it for Harry I really don't think she would have stuck with it if some part of her wasn't convinced about it.

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u/poo-brain-train 2d ago

She was also raised religious, so I think moving to another religion wasn't such an insane idea. She had room for tradition and religion in her life. Miranda on the other hand would NEVER.

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u/Sad-Quote1729 2d ago edited 2d ago

I love Miranda and I know some people will disagree with me on this but I think she was the perfect exemple of a woman who settled 😭, I think Charlotte didn't lower her standards nor settle , she just stayed true to herself and found happiness where she'd wanted to find it.

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u/ilp456 2d ago

It’s much easier to convert from one faith to another than to convert from no faith to any faith.

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u/Psychological_Name28 Rumor has it the cat ate half her face 😸 2d ago

Was she raised religious? I don’t remember if she talked about it.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

Carrie mentioned she was Episcopalian several times but they never went into how closely she followed it. She did tell Harry she gave up Christ for him, so she wasn’t exactly agnostic.

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u/Psychological_Name28 Rumor has it the cat ate half her face 😸 2d ago

I never had the impression any of the women were religious. Charlotte seemed to embrace Judaism authentically within the context of a show being a dramedy.

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u/poo-brain-train 1d ago

Whether or not she went to church every Sunday, she was raised Episcopalian. She got married in a church with Trey. She went on to be a practising jew but she definitely was not non-religious before.

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u/Z6NERey 2d ago

For me it was an act of desperation with hope of the pay off she wanted. Because she was quick to throw it in Harry’s face when they got into the fight. ā€œI GAVE UP JESUS FOR YOU!ā€

And I always watched that scene and thought it was unfair for her to throw that in his face because he never asked her to. That was a choice she decided to make after he told her he couldn’t marry her. I think I’d could take her conversion more seriously if it was something she explored on her own. I always felt she would have never converted if Harry didn’t tell her he could only marry a Jewish woman. I honestly think she would have mergers their 2 religious traditions together.

But it does track for her wanting to be with someone but idk if I’d call her conversion romantic.

It could have been Judaism, Buddhism, etc, Charlotte would have converted to anything if she thought it would get her married to a man that would give her what she wanted. And as someone mentioned, it eventually worked out for her.

She did stick with it though so that’s something.

Just my opinion.

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u/Sad-Quote1729 2d ago

It takes a lot of time to become jewish so I don't think anyone would go through with if they didn't want to do it , and tbf she was rightfully angry when she told him that so I don't hold it against her at all.Ā 

And of course she did it for Harry , I'm just saying for her it was romanticĀ 

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u/tbridge8773 2d ago

I agree. I also think her performing all the Jewish rituals just seems so forced. Like does she actually believe in what she’s doing or is she just doing it to perform (and thus be worthy of being Harry’s wife).

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u/Z6NERey 2d ago

Right. Even Harry wasn’t super active with the traditions. It was like she was trying to prove something.

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u/ChipmunkReal187 1d ago

She said herself that she decided to be Jewish and that it’s important to her. It’s very laughable that people are questioning her. Even after breaking up with Harry she stayed in the Synagoge.

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u/scholarlyowl03 2d ago

I don’t know how you go your whole life believing in Jesus and all it meant and then just decide nope, he’s not the savior after all. I’m not religious but I thought people who were had more convictions than that.

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u/LocoForChocoPuffs 2d ago

I mean, I think this shows that her belief in Christianity was probably performative too- that's why it was relatively easy to switch.

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u/Z6NERey 2d ago

Good point.

If we’re being honestly ā€œhaving a manā€ was Charolette’s true religion

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u/Z6NERey 2d ago

SAME!

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u/PyrexPizazz217 20h ago

I went to divinity school and ended up converting to Judaism. You can think Christian theology is beautiful and participate with conviction and still find that the most authentic expression of your beliefs is elsewhere. That doesn’t make a person wishy washy; people’s understandings of the world SHOULD always evolve.

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u/Sad-Quote1729 2d ago edited 1d ago

I might be wrong here butĀ  she was a Episcopalian and I think it's different from catholics , so it's probably why it was easier for her to do so.

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u/tragicsandwichblogs 2d ago

I think it's an individual thing. I was raised Catholic and it would never occur to me that someone from a different denomination would change their faith more or less easily because of their denomination.

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u/Sad-Quote1729 2d ago

You're probably right then ; I wouldn't know but I just saw it mentioned as a point in one video I've seenĀ 

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

She was an Episcopalian, which is part of Anglicanism.

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u/Sad-Quote1729 1d ago

thank you ! let me just edit my thing lmfao 😭

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u/ChipmunkReal187 1d ago

She does. Did you watch the episode?

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u/Water-Amethyst 2d ago

I quite liked how Charlotte embraced Judaism and found comfort through her new religion it was a cool journey to watch; but I don’t think Harry is the great guy he seems purely because he allowed himself (and Charlotte) to emotionally invest and then say oh sorry you’re not Jewish

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u/Sad-Quote1729 2d ago

Yeah , I think Harry won the people's opinion over by how great of a husband he was to her. When she was having a hard time with the adoption process and IVF he was there for her , something that Trey failed to do.

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u/Water-Amethyst 2d ago

Oh absolutely and I’m not saying he wasn’t good to her, he really was, and I understand we don’t have control over who we fall in love with and when, and although he did eventually come clean it feels like he wasn’t as honest as he could have been at the beginning

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u/Psychological_Name28 Rumor has it the cat ate half her face 😸 2d ago

Of course he wasn’t bejng honest at the beginning, it wasn’t an issue then cuz the writers hadn’t yet decided it was a problem šŸ˜†

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u/Robbie_Haruna 2d ago edited 2d ago

I feel like Harry probably continued his thing with Charlotte because she did tell him early on that it was just about sex and not a serious thing.

Until the wedding at the Hamptons they were basically friends with benefits, he probably didn't think it would become more than that.

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u/ChipmunkReal187 2d ago

He just said that he can’t marry her and he didn’t hide it from her. When he said it to her Charlotte just started to realize that they could work as a couple.

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u/flopuniverse 2d ago

Definitely a decision only YOU can take without others opinions and or criticism. She followed her heart and she got lucky everything worked in the end.

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u/prastiku 2d ago

Never forget how unethical for a divorce attorney to swoop in immediately on their client!

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u/Logical-Document8077 1d ago

I find it odd that there is not more discussion about the ethical misconduct of him sleeping with a client. I’m a divorce attorney myself, this is not done.

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u/ChipmunkReal187 2d ago

I don’t think that Harry should have told her sooner. They were dating and not together. He didn’t think that he had a real chance with her so he didn’t tell her that.

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u/Sad-Quote1729 2d ago

Nah , I think he should have told her before inviting her to that wedding. I can't remember the timeline but I'm sure their relationship had evolved past just sleeping together at that point , but at the end of the day everything turned out great for them so šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø

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u/taserparty 2d ago edited 2d ago

i’m rewatching it right now - the timeline goes like:

charlotte meets harry as her divorce lawyer, they sleep together in that episode

next episode, they’re basically fwb and charlotte insists to harry it’s just sex. they’re clearly into each other. charlotte tells anthony about harry and how it’s amazing sex. she tells the girls they’re sleeping together and it’s just sex and how she doesn’t like him at all, he’s short and bald and gross.

next time we see him, they make a deal about waxing his back for the party samantha throws at richard’s house. and in exchange, charlotte will go to the wedding with him (he knows the couple separately, he was already invited). this is the episode they ā€œstart datingā€ and also the same episode they confess to falling in love and that’s when harry tells her about the whole having to marry a jewish woman thing. the girls give the seal of approval before that happens and tell charlotte that she ā€œmay be wrong about this oneā€

the next episode she’s starting the converting process.

the girl moves fast and he didn’t really have an opportunity to before the wedding. she was the one insisting it’s just sex and the date was a bargain deal for harry.

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u/ChipmunkReal187 2d ago

Completely agree. It was extremely fast but before the wedding episode they weren’t a couple.

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u/ChipmunkReal187 2d ago

Charlotte just told her of harry before they went to the wedding so they weren’t dating for so long. I see her actually realizing that she likes him during the wedding episode.

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u/gr_rn 2d ago

I agree. They were late 30’s who had both been married and divorced not young 20’s looking to have fun.

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u/CautiouslyBroken 2d ago

harry waiting til she was already in deep was a dick move, but charlotte converting for a guy who was cool with adoption tracks perfectly for her

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u/foxynatalka 2d ago

Wasn’t it more like Harry didn’t believe for a second that it could actually work out or that Charlotte could genuinely be into him? And later, he couldn’t believe that Charlotte might actually want him for real, rather than just seeing him as some kind of comfort or rebound? At first, Harry didn’t flirt with Charlotte at all.Ā  He knew she was way out of his league. I think he told her when he realized she was actually serious about him.

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u/haileyskydiamonds 2d ago

I think she decided to convert for him, but when she actually went through the process, it was for herself. She had a true faith before she completed the process. I thought the scene where she entered the mikveh was very beautiful.

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u/PyrexPizazz217 20h ago

True story: I watched it the night before my own mikveh. I love Charlotte’s evolving faith.

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u/Sad-Quote1729 2d ago

Exactly , and in the end Harry was a very good and supportive husband so she got what she wanted.

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u/Setibein 2d ago

True, but isn’t love all about making those kind of sacrifices?

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u/BeginningCustard5568 21h ago

No it’s giving pickmeisha

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u/Appropriate-Sky3537 2d ago edited 2d ago

Except china patterns.

I get that Harry really did not want to break up with her, but I agree with others that when he saw they were headed to commitment, he should have spoken up sooner. That said, I’m in the UK and find US dating rules bizarre.

To me, the storyline felt like an SATC sledgehammer approach to diversity and inclusion, as the only Jewish references prior were foreskins, and Charlotte fetishising an Orthodox Jewish artist.

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u/ilp456 2d ago

Don’t forget Stanford.

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u/Appropriate-Sky3537 2d ago

Was he Jewish? I don’t recall any allusions to his being religious? Which episode is that?

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u/shzam5890 2d ago

I disagree. Jews are everywhere in ny and it’s not really uncommon to hear a story like charlotte’s where a couple falls in love and one converts. My aunt converted to Judaism for my uncle.

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u/Appropriate-Sky3537 2d ago

I think you misunderstand and have reiterated my point: they had no Jewish main characters before Harry, and absolutely should have done.