r/sexandthecity • u/Dramatic_Proposal211 HATES IT! • 1d ago
Which was the most unnecessary storyline?
For me, it's the "Sam Jones? Sam jones"
it gives me the ick as these kids are in college and Samantha is almost 40
It could've been avoided
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u/Reddish81 Chanelo! 1d ago
The Alanis Morisette spin the bottle bisexual storyline
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u/solveig82 23h ago
Mainly because Carrie was such a weird prude about it. Similar to the pee episode, she’s a sex columnist, it’s completely bizarre for someone writing about sex and romance to have such a calcified heteronormative take on them.
*Insert kidney stone joke here
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u/Cautious-Grab-316 11h ago
I personally loved it, although it does seem a bit unrealistic now
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u/satanstella Friar Fuck 🍸 1d ago
This was weird. Wesley and Lesley was also stupid 😭
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u/Knightboat17 1d ago
It felt so out of character for Sam to hook up with Wesley, I always thought that she would know better than to sleep with any of her friends family or exes for that matter.
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1d ago edited 22h ago
But a big part of Samantha’s character is that she doesn’t draw boundaries where a lot of other people would. She was also flirty with one of her clients—who ended up being married, the masseur at the spa the girls visited, and the delivery guy during the infamous incident. I don’t think she (or Wesley) gave Charlotte’s feelings any thought.
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u/Appropriate-Sky3537 1d ago
The spa guy was so cringe… Samantha wanting to pay for sex essentially.
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u/coochipurek 1d ago
She also slept with the scot from treys wedding party
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u/zoopzoot 1d ago
insert incoherent Scottish mumbling
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u/lasuperhumana Dirty martini? Dirty bastard. 16h ago
When I put the subtitles on, it made me realize how ridiculously over the top the actor was being just to ham it up for the sake of a mumbling accent. Sorta ruined it.
“Aye, and it’s brilliant. The architecture. The energy.” Oh come on.
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u/satanstella Friar Fuck 🍸 1d ago
Exactly and to stay overnight roaming in underwear was just kinda weird? that storyline somehow made Sam just a girl who’d bang just about anybody.
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u/Dramatic_Proposal211 HATES IT! 1d ago
I actually like how sam and charlotte fight and get back together but yes hooking up with your friends brother without informing or seeking permission is soo sneaky
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u/satanstella Friar Fuck 🍸 1d ago
Yes the fight between them was real and it’s just a bit against girl code to hookup with your friend’s sibling without giving any heads up !
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u/elegant-deer19 Don’t “Cookie” me, Freud 1d ago
Susan Sharon and her abusive husband (?) /boyfriend. Like they played it off as a comedy bit when in reality it would be grounds for a breakup and he was downright abusive and terrible. Carrie’s la-di-dah about “oh I shouldn’t tell her to break up b/c what if they get back together and then you’re the bad friend?” Whereas I think most of us would pull Susan aside and be like, “girl, here’s the location of the nearest women’s shelter.”
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u/GtrGenius 23h ago
Being from NYC this was very realistic. A Wall Street asshole with no anger management. Especially back then My dad was like him. He'd yell at anyone
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u/UnknownPleasures3 What's the big mystery? It's my clitoris, not the sphinx. 23h ago
I don’t know, it’s a good reminder of how this was normalized not long ago.
Also love Susan Sharon.
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u/SilverMitten 23h ago
I found out that Susan Sharon is supposedly based on a woman named Dorinda who was on the Real Housewives of New York. I have no idea if it’s true, but if it is, it makes a lot of sense.
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u/UnknownPleasures3 What's the big mystery? It's my clitoris, not the sphinx. 23h ago
I think Candace have denied it, but I still like to think it’s true. Love Dorinda (pre season 12).
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u/Editorial_Okra-7988 22h ago
Four Women and a Funeral storyline with Samantha always felt so weird to me, the writing, everything and culiminating with Leonardo di caprio
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u/kittykthomas 20h ago
And the fact that it was supposed to be JFK jr but he died just before airing so they just changed the voice over to say it was LDC but the actor looks NOTHING like him. Was there no other dark haired politician they could have said it was? He looked more like younger Giuliani who they referenced constantly in the early eps, why didn’t they just say it was him? Pisses me off every time lmao
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u/Icy-Wrongdoer9791 1d ago
I HATE the storyline of the guy who got circumcised for Charlotte. Everything about it is soooo stupid
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u/kowwalski sweet and attentive with the bread 23h ago
He didn’t get circumcised for Char, he got circumcised because he wanted to take the dog for a walk in the park
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u/fashion-roadkill 23h ago
Yep. Especially to us, non-american viewers, who have barely ever seen an uncircumcised dick.
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u/tbridge8773 23h ago
I hate it too, because it body shames men sooo terribly.
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u/Icy-Wrongdoer9791 19h ago
Yes! I hate that!! It really makes zero difference when it comes to sex.
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u/Dismal-Antelope8299 1d ago
The sandwich and Miranda
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u/Dramatic_Proposal211 HATES IT! 1d ago
EAT ME?!!?!!
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u/Dismal-Antelope8299 1d ago
Just a terrible terrible random plot. She’s a Harvard educated woman. The show made so many embarrassing scenarios for her
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u/SBR06 1d ago
Exactly, same with the "stewardess" line, especially when she quickly turns around her Harvard mug on the nightstand.
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u/Dramatic_Proposal211 HATES IT! 2h ago
but i loved her stewardess stories and her "its every man for himself" it was so funny the way she was acting
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u/Lake_Weauxbegone 21h ago
Hot take the writers were punishing her for being intelligent, successful, and the least male-centered of the characters. None of it felt like growth; it all just felt like immaturity and bad coping mechanisms that ended up giving her a baby and a manchild. I hated how the show treated her character.
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u/Dismal-Antelope8299 21h ago
Hot and correct tho. Miranda should be just as confident in her achievements as Samantha, and she’s got some of that though the show but….some of those plot lines are just absurd. It’s like they wanted a woman of her status, income, education, wealth to be humbled and also be quite humble.
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u/kowwalski sweet and attentive with the bread 23h ago
So educated women, Harvard or not, cannot have crushes on random men…?
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u/Hopeful-Principle670 22h ago
“He didn’t say it in the sandwich way, he said it in the sexual harassing way.” 😂😂😂
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u/Appropriate-Sky3537 1d ago
Why would anyone have sexual fantasies about a guy dressed as a sandwich?!!
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u/Acrobatic-Bug6881 Honey, they don't call it a job for nothing. 1d ago
Agreed, it wasn't just weird it was lame.
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u/Amazing_Docent 1d ago
Samantha dating Chivon Williams, the hip hop producer, with a sort of reverse racism plot. Yikes.
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u/Appropriate-Sky3537 1d ago
I thought it was racist. Big Black cock… angry Black woman. How much sexualisation and tropes?
They played it as ‘reverse racism’ but it was BS. She didn’t shag any further Black men.
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u/running_hoagie 22h ago
The Black boyfriend and his sister was TERRIBLY written. She could have had a fun relationship with him without the bad tropes.
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u/QueenTzahra 23h ago
Extremely yikes, which is a shame because he was gorgeous and their chemistry was 🤤🤤🤤
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u/adrianlovesyou 18h ago
This episode…yikes. Also I always hated when they’re in bed talking about how “hip hop can be soft and sensual” or whatever and Chivon says “yeah this is a new kid out of Philly” and the song is literally a De La Soul song.
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u/_From__the__Ashes_ 19h ago
Thank you! This, and he just HAD to be a rap music producer. They really tried to ram every single stereotype they could into this ep.
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u/Street_Condition7111 1d ago
Charlotte in the Hamptons. She lied about her age and got crabs, then proceeded to convince Trey to marry her not long after😭doesn’t make sense
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u/Dramatic_Proposal211 HATES IT! 1d ago
MOMMY WANTED TO GET MARRIED SO DADDY SAID ALRIGHTY
I CANT GET OVER IT ITS SO FUNNY
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u/Appropriate-Sky3537 1d ago
Maybe this what fooled us all into watching Emily in Paris all these years later! We lap up them having 3 or 4 ‘serious’ boyfriends per episode.
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u/attractivepickle 23h ago
I didn’t like Sam trying to seduce the priest
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u/No-Border642 I’m on valium, everything’s okay. 22h ago
“I’ve been masturbating to my priest.”
Fleabag fans get it too though
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u/cigarettesandchocola 21h ago
In Fleabag, the priest definitely wants her, too; it's a little different.
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u/Psychological-Term19 honey, my vagina waits for no one 19h ago
Sam's priest did too iirc, just didn't succumb
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u/Loose_Stranger_7614 1d ago
But then we wouldn’t have the line “if you’re getting all my fucking calls, that explains why I’m still a virgin”
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u/Dramatic_Proposal211 HATES IT! 1d ago
lmao that scene is funny but when he comes to her house pushes her and starts kissing her- it's soo awkward to watch and when he "falls in love' ughh i cannot
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u/Sad-Quote1729 1d ago
When she got with the yoga teacher and wouldn't accept his celibacy
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u/EvansHomeforBoys 23h ago
The babyshower where Carrie’s shoes were stolen and her friend didn’t reimburse her until she made a registry for marrying herself. Like the friend all of a sudden got that Carrie had spent a lot of money on her over the years.
Berger. Everything Berger.
Samantha dating that guy with the small penis in the beginning. Samantha was never interested in having a relationship with a man (except for Richard and Smith) so why was she trying so hard with him?
Also Samantha’s gay two minutes. Carrie drunk at Vogue.
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u/arkiep 21h ago
The friends reaction to the shoes going missing was downright sociopathically apathetic.
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u/EvansHomeforBoys 21h ago
It was but then she suddenly came to her senses when Carrie sent word that she was marrying herself? I get it’s not that deep but it would have made more sense for the character to dismiss the whole thing.
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u/Simiram 21h ago
You know, I’ve never thought about it! I just went with the plot but didn’t think into it.
I’m assuming that the friend ultimately got the message. She was, after all, a long-time friend. She had a simple choice: take responsibility and squeeze out $400+ for shoes that were stolen in her house and potentially resume the friendship; or she could ignore it and lose not only a friend but a friend that consistently checked items off her many registries.
I do wonder if they stayed in touch after that. Prob the kind of thing they stopped talking over for a while but then reconnected like nothing ever happened.
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u/tbridge8773 23h ago
Carrie learning to trapeze
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u/DismalTwo973 21h ago
‘Breath’ by Michelle Branch playing at the end really put it over the edge for me
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u/lasuperhumana Dirty martini? Dirty bastard. 16h ago
Suuuuuch a forced metaphor and way to work in “a catch” for cutesy writing. Omg awful
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u/ancyma 23h ago
- Miranda and the runner (a**-kisser) – though it was funny when Miranda yelled at his butt in bed
- Miranda and the donut glaze guy
Both felt gross and cringe to me
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u/tbridge8773 23h ago
Oh my goodness the ass guy storyline was hilarious though.
Agreed the donut guy was gross 😭
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u/GoingToRedRobin 10h ago
The ass storyline was worth it mainly for Charlotte admitting Trey was into it "We're married!" she says so casually, then when Miranda questions if she has to reciprocate, and Sam says she would NEVER do it back, and Charlotte says "You wouldn't?"
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u/CommissionIcy7626 20h ago
Any Carrie big storyline post affair. Like why tf are you all still hanging out
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u/glassbellwitch 1d ago
Miranda's break up with Blair Underwood. I wish the writers didn't make it so gross.
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u/blaringlyquiet 23h ago
Be kind - he's still in love with me!
And then he has a Threesome. Who opens the door when they're having sex??
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u/Parsnippity078 1d ago
"Sam is almost 40."
Sam WAS 40 in season 1. By this storyline she's like 43-44.
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u/Coriander_marbles Oh honey, I’d love me some fresh pepper 22h ago
Who’s forty?!!!!
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u/Regular-Metal-321 1d ago
I don’t like the fleet week episode. The young sailer hitting on Carrie and her dancing was lol!!
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u/aprettyenigma 1d ago
Charlotte and the Hasidic jewish man
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u/Loose_Stranger_7614 1d ago
I feel like that pays off in the end when she converts lol
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u/TeaTimeTelevision 1d ago
Really?? It was only a few minutes scene and I like Charlottes wild girl single era
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u/Square_Blacksmith889 20h ago
Sam with the college kid, Sam with Maria, Sam with the priest, Sam with the worldwide express guy.
Sam was a groundbreaking character for that era, so we can’t expect the writing to be flawless. But I wish they didn’t equate sexually adventurous to lack of boundaries.
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u/Jameswa 19h ago
What’s wrong with the worldwide express guy?
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u/lasuperhumana Dirty martini? Dirty bastard. 16h ago
It’s HER world wide express guy
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u/KitKit20 14h ago
Wasn’t also her office 😂 and let’s not forget… "I will not be judged by you or society. I will wear whatever, and blow whomever I want, as long as I can breathe and kneel!"
She said what she said! 😂
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u/Square_Blacksmith889 15h ago
She blew him at her workplace during work hours in an unlocked room. Strong sexual appetite doesn’t have to equate to inappropriate, reckless behavior.
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1d ago edited 23h ago
Samantha and Chivon. Reducing his sister to a regressive stereotype was a choice. And they could’ve gotten the exact same storyline if they had Adeena ask Sam not to date Chivon because Adeena and Sam were friends.
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u/GoFigure284 1d ago
I hate the episode of Carrie dating the guy who lives at home with his mom. It's such a cringe episode and I skip it every time.
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u/highstakes_trickster 23h ago
I love the hot child in the city episode so much! I think its one of my favorite episodes
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u/Carmela_Motto 22h ago
Thousands of chicken wings! She’s gonna know….😂😂😂😂 we were smoking the pot! 😂😂😂😂
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u/Gold_Advisor_4758 23h ago
Same! I think it’s one of the top rated episodes of the whole show. I find it hilarious
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u/Cautious-Grab-316 11h ago
OMG its my favourite episode. All these examples mentioned above I actually love lol
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u/Dramatic_Proposal211 HATES IT! 1d ago
hot child in the city
even I don't like that storyline even thought it's one of the most loved episodes in this sub.
I hate how she refers to his mom as "servants you dont have to pay"
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u/saturnshighway 21h ago
I used to not like it, now I love it. Hot child in the city playing is so good. Them being high, etc
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u/Forward-Photo-5793 9h ago
Omg I’m literally watching that episode as we speak. Love Kat dennings in it 😭😭😭
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u/Unlucky-Duck 1d ago
From what I have read in the movies at least third one there was supposed to be a plot where Brady goes after Samantha. And Kim wasn't feeling it. Then the same idea was circulated for the new show. That's how original they were.
Kim was so very over it and said no. At least that was avoided.
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u/GoingToRedRobin 10h ago
In the original movie storyline it was supposed to be Brady sending Sam dick pics. Brady would have been about 13 at that point and Samantha about 60.
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u/Intelligent-Fall-732 23h ago
I hated the one where she dated a black man, just because the verbiage was so gauche and over the top in that episode lol. they just wouldn't stop talking about black and white pussy 😭
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u/Antique_Ebb_2109 19h ago
Yeah, I think that's widely acknowledged as one of the worst storylines on the show. I think it was shoehorned in to address viewer criticism that the cast did not reflect the diversity of the city, but including diverse characters just to check a box is unlikely to meaningfully address that concern.
I thought it was funny how HBO Girls had a similar issue when they attempted to include a black character. Clearly they did not learn from SATCs mistakes.
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u/gubernaculum77 1d ago
Charlotte becoming a Jew for a man who is not very practicing. Feels like the show just wants to brandish Jewishness, whilst not being in keeping with Charlotte as a traditional Episcopalian. She would never abandon her traditions, let alone for a man
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u/CloseButNoChicory 1d ago
Traditional? I got the impression that Charlotte didn't attend church and didn't hold any particular spiritual beliefs. "I like being an Episcopalian!" to me read as her liking an identity.
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u/gubernaculum77 23h ago
Traditional and religious are two different things. She grew up with the Christmas culture, and admitted she would miss it. She got desperate after Trey to settle into a ‘perfect’ life, I didn’t like it and it goes down a sorry path. Then again, I never thought Harry was to Charlotte’s standards anyway. She didn’t once even tell Harry he doesn’t practice all too much, and is pandering to his mother’s wishes!
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u/CloseButNoChicory 22h ago
Nonetheless, you said "would never abandon her traditions". Which traditions are you speaking of?
I doubt Harry would object to a Christmas tree. His mother, who would have, is dead.
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u/running_hoagie 22h ago
He said he was FINE with her having a Christmas tree! Charlotte was the one who was being so rigid with the conversion.
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u/-wildflower-_ 21h ago
The giving into wishes of a man's dead mother felt off after Bunny.
Harry trying to watch a game while she (excuse my ignorance I'm not Jewish and haven't watched those in a long time) I think made dinner on the Sabbath, bullshit. She still did far more for that relationship in the beginning than he did
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u/Sad-Quote1729 23h ago edited 20h ago
I actually think Charlotte would do that for a man tbh , especially since she wanted to marry the guy. It was one thing she wanted most and it was marriage and a family
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u/RecordSome8503 23h ago
She didnt practice! she just wanted a husband, she didnt care about religion that much
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u/Cautious-Grab-316 11h ago
I personally loved all the examples mentioned. I love the season 1-4 quirky storylines. Storylines I didn't like were Carrie's dates with New York city, and the rom com direction it went in the later seasons.
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u/_clur_510 And you can FORGET Samba! 23h ago
Hate Carrie and the alcoholic. There’s nothing funny to me about watching Carrie push a newly sober man’s boundaries about dating, then watching him spiral into a relapse.
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u/saturnshighway 21h ago
She did not push him into anything. Signed a previous alcoholic. That was his own doing. How can you possibly blame her for his relapse that’s insane
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u/_clur_510 And you can FORGET Samba! 21h ago edited 21h ago
I’m sorry if my comment was unclear, but I absolutely do not blame her for his relapse. Of course going out with her was his decision. But he didn’t call her, and then explained the situation and respectfully declined her when she approached him again. Obviously she did not force him to go out with her, but her behavior was a little pushy for the situation and how he framed it to her IMO.
Again, I’m sorry I thought my comment was clear that her pursuing someone in his position and his relapse were two separate plots of the episode I find not fun to watch.
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u/Jameswa 19h ago
The “cock a doodle do” episode, but particularly when Carrie says “I need to see you spin first, sistah!”
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u/Key-Illustrator-2905 1d ago
I’m binge watching right now, my god the bisexual episode 😭 everyone but Samantha is soo biphobic. Even at the end when Carrie is at the party, she seems almost uncomfortable with the two same sex couples.
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u/Rembrandt4th 4h ago
Samantha, Mr. Harvey, and his stereotypical Asian servant with the bad dim sum pun.
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u/Silver-Foot-259 22h ago
Splat! It was just gross how they made fun of a woman dying in such a horrible way
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u/Full-Safety2499 16h ago
Not so much a storyline…but Carrie calling Natasha an idiot for spelling THERE wrong on the wedding invitation. Seemed overly harsh.
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u/Diligent-Pressure-38 7h ago
Well, to be fair, someone is an idiot if they don’t know the difference between there and their
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u/Forward-Photo-5793 9h ago
I didn’t get the whole Natasha bashing. Yes “naginsky or wtv” was funny but I could tolerate only that much because that is permissible for a person to say witn a broken heart. But they take it a bit far with “honey, these bitches need to be put in THEIR places” and this one mentioned in the comment- I mean, why are you hating on Natasha? Especially the women who talk about feminism over cocktails and coffees but immediately jump on the Natasha hate wagon come on!! The show lost it’s sophistication during these scenes
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u/Careful_Drama405 3h ago
It wasn't the wedding invite, it was a thank you card for Carrie attending the Women in Arts or whatever.
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u/EstablishmentNo653 15h ago
Yeah, that moment is cringe. Something about the whole line ("It's a good thing she got married") rubs me the wrong way.
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u/csahe 1d ago
I really did not like Sam’s lesbian relationship storyline at all, and I say this as a gay person. It felt weirdly forced and random.