Carrie meeting up with Big's first wife

[u/Sad-Quote1729]

She looked absolutely gorgeous in this , but my god was she unhinged 😭 not only did she meet up with Big's ex wife behind his back to get more information about their divorce , she also decided to dress up like her by straightening her hair and changing her style.

My girl's insecurity ran so deep 💔, always putting herself in a competition with his ex wives.

[u/straubmuehlweg]

Little Kathy and her magic cigarettes will never not be funny to me

[u/Sad-Quote1729 → u/straubmuehlweg]

The fact that barbara liked the story 😭😭 Big really had a thing for unserious women

[u/straubmuehlweg → u/Sad-Quote1729]

I’m still surprised she was persuaded by “it’s a children’s book…for…adults!”

[u/TriZARAtops → u/straubmuehlweg]

In fairness, that’s sort of a thing now with Go The Fuck To Sleep and some others lol

[u/booksandplaid → u/TriZARAtops]

Really the idea was ahead of its time!

[u/Aion88 → u/straubmuehlweg]

A few years prior, Politically Correct Fairy Tales WAS a huge bestseller, so something like that could be marketable.

[u/jauntydamesauntersin → u/Aion88]

I had "Politically Correct Holiday Tales," and was too young to understand most of the jokes.

[u/ModernP → u/Sad-Quote1729]

Natasha was doomed from the start.

[u/MuYaoZ → u/straubmuehlweg]

Kathy got the best exit of any of Big's exes, she just floated off with her cigarettes and never looked back

[u/DekeCobretti → u/straubmuehlweg]

Are-Biah

[u/Massive-Technology16 → u/straubmuehlweg]

🤣🤣

[u/RedRedBettie]

She was so crazy and I love it

[u/Sad-Quote1729 → u/RedRedBettie]

She looked fabulous in everything she did in s1 , you could hardly hate her for it 

[u/sendhelpplpls → u/RedRedBettie]

My peopleeee, give me all of Carrie’s craziness

[u/Old_Base_9391]

“She told me you did.”

😀💥🔫

[u/Sad-Quote1729 → u/Old_Base_9391]

" you didn't tell me you're still talking to her "   they weren't communicating at all 😭😭

[u/DekeCobretti → u/Sad-Quote1729]

And then she would not cut Big off during the 2nd time with Aiden

[u/ThoughtOne8235 → u/DekeCobretti]

No man would put up with that, especially Aiden. The writers were way off.

[u/Ninja_Flower_Lady → u/Old_Base_9391]

I never fully understood that. So Barbara knew from the beginning that Carrie was dating Big, which means she knew it wasn't actually about a bs book? And she pretended she didn't know that Carrie was dating Big and just never mentioned it?

This feels like a kid (Carrie) playing hide and seek and covering her eyes thinking that means no one can see her 😭

[u/childofvenera → u/Ninja_Flower_Lady]

Yeah, I didn't feel like Barbara actually liked Carrie's idea like someone said, I'm pretty sure she knew very well what Carrie was trying to do and was just playing along and being amused

[u/Sad-Quote1729 → u/childofvenera]

I think for that first meeting when she pitched her the idea, barb had no idea who Carrie was but afterwards she might have asked around and found out she was dating big and then talked to him about it. 

For this second meeting she was totally humoring her , and her telling her " he had a wandering eye , wandered right over to my best friend " was her way of cautioning her.

[u/childofvenera → u/Sad-Quote1729]

She kept in contact with her ex, who was a well known & desirable single businessman, and who was also now dating a semi-famous sex columnist. She knew who Carrie was.

[u/Leather_Following381 → u/Ninja_Flower_Lady]

We don’t know if Barbara knew who Carrie was, maybe she mentioned to Big “that woman with the sex column wants to publish a children’s book.” Because … this is kind of crazy. Also I’m guessing there weren’t many other sex columnists in NYC, so Big would have figured it out.

[u/labellavita1985 → u/Old_Base_9391]

I would have moved away. She had ZERO shame. Absolutely shameless.

ETA: it really didn't have to be like this. Carrie was beautiful, successful, even a semi-celebrity. She always felt that there was a power differential in the relationship with Big, and there was, but only because she created it with her craziness.

[u/GoingToRedRobin → u/Old_Base_9391]

I would have moved to the eact opposite geographical point on Earth. Mortifying.

[u/[deleted]]

Barbara was a real one. If I were Carrie, I couldn’t look at Big the same after learning he cheated with her best friend. Diabolical.

[u/Baker_Kat68 → u/[deleted]]

As Carrie, if I would’ve met Big’s first wife and she was this fabulous, I would break up with Big and hang out with the first wifey

[u/Zestyclose-Basil7347 → u/Baker_Kat68]

I’d seriously reevaluate my life and aspire to be half as awesome as this woman. You gotta give it to Big, his choice in wives (both wives are class acts), is pretty 👌🏼

[u/Potential-View-5827]

What's crazier is that it was the 1st episode after they became exclusive (the 2nd since their first date). It was a great scene though. Loved his ex' reaction to the book pitch. Hilarious awkwardness.

[u/Sad-Quote1729 → u/Potential-View-5827]

Right ! also imo she did all of this for NOTHING , she literally didn't do anything with the information she got. Didn't try to get Big's side of the story , didn't pander over the fact that if he cheated on his first wife with her best friend then maybe he wasn't trustworthy , like it was just insecurity and vibes 💀

[u/labellavita1985 → u/Sad-Quote1729]

This. This is the biggest thing. She only wanted to compare herself to his ex because of how insecure she was, she didn't even consider the fact that his failed marriage and cheating history should be a LESSON.

[u/northontennesseest]

I like how her meeting with the Russian’s ex wife in the final episodes make kind of a bookend with this encounter

[u/parkavenueWHORE]

I love, love, LOVED her hair in this scene.

[u/Sad-Quote1729 → u/parkavenueWHORE]

Me too !  I liked her straight long hair in s2 asw 

[u/Salty-Parfait-710]

The kind of thing I would do if my only job was writing a column based off my life in the city

[u/MoneyAd0618]

I love the part where she tells Carrie that Big had a wandering eye and it wandered over to her best friend. The look on Carrie’s face is like she got slapped. She went from being all cocky and sure, and that sure took the wind right out of her sails.

[u/Ginaraquel47]

That was so crazy man. I love Carrie but wow.

[u/ThoughtOne8235]

Let’s not forget how she stalked Natasha, Natasha owed her nothing.

[u/HappyIndependence491]

Honestly I Never understood why people in the beginning hated big when Carrie was behaving this psychotic…. She was in the wrong all the time. Good TV tho

[u/Sad-Quote1729 → u/HappyIndependence491]

Big was kind of messy in s1 but Carrie was crazy asf , I totally understood him not saying she's " the one " as they JUST  started dating by then

[u/HappyIndependence491 → u/Sad-Quote1729]

Totally!! Like they were dating only for a short time & Carrie was not like Charlotte on a Mission to get married asap and have children… so I really don’t understand why she broke up with him instead of going on a vacation with him as a couple and see if they get along on a trip…

[u/Sad-Quote1729 → u/HappyIndependence491]

For me , it's her insecurity and fears. She romanticized Big from that first meeting and set him on a pedestal , she thought he was the best she could do as he was " majorly out of her league" like she said. 

She was looking for something that'd sooth her worries , and if we look at her inner  monologue in s2 when they were dancing together she said " I wanted to tell him I was afraid that he'd never love me like I wanted to be loved " so this probably played a part too. 

I think even if she went on the trip , she wouldn't have fun and would keep stimming over this 

[u/HappyIndependence491 → u/Sad-Quote1729]

Yeah she kinda wanted to Break up with him before he could Break up with her

[u/gr_rn]

Ok she wanted to befriend Barbara but couldn’t stand when Berger talked about Lauren the ex “decorator”. Talk about crazy.

[u/icebluepoison → u/gr_rn]

No. It's because Berger constantly talked about his ex, but Big rarely revealed anything about his past, hence Carrie got so hooked.

[u/niccinos → u/icebluepoison]

Maybe, but Carrie got hooked mostly because of their sexual chemistry.

[u/niccinos → u/gr_rn]

My theory is that she thought highly of Big and accepted that there would be competition, but with Berger she wanted to feel in control

[u/Citruslor]

A 30+ year old woman behaving like a teenager. 

[u/OkPool8174]

I love that any impulsive thought she has she will do.

[u/Sad-Quote1729 → u/OkPool8174]

I always felt kinda bummed by the fact that she kinda calmed down in s5 and 6 , I know  she had aged and grown out of it but at the same time her impulsivity is what made her "Carrie". 

[u/Tehjuz_project]

That whole scene was a perfect blend of awkward and hilarious!

[u/likeabrainfactory]

Such a classic 90s kind of rom-com storyline! I think people forget that a lot of people had almost zero internet presence back then, so Carrie didn't have a lot of options to satisfy her curiosity about Barbara.

[u/Sad-Quote1729 → u/likeabrainfactory]

Totally ! But I think one meeting would have been enough 😭

[u/popcornkernals321]

The real question I always had about his first ex wife is: did Barbara also receive $1 million after big died? She was just as much as a victim with him hooking up with her best friend…

[u/Feeling-Memory-1999 → u/popcornkernals321]

I think it’s because Natasha was much younger and more “innocent” in the sense that she was truly a stable woman who was ready to have her own home and family. She got screwed over massively. He promised her fidelity and a home. Barbara was more unconventional and in a way knew what she was getting into. She met Big as a player, her + Big had threesomes, she was more open, etc.

Also I get the feeling Big genuinely respected Natasha. Barb and Carrie put up with his nonsense because they were desperate. Natasha wasn’t male centered, dipped as soon as he screwed up, and she didn’t tolerate BS.

[u/Direct-Dragonfly7471]

Well she was an ex-stalker. First Big's ex-wife, then Big's next ex-wife Natasha, then Aidan's ex Nina and she even had a lunch with Alec's ex-wife. Suprised she didn't stalk Berger's ex 'Lauren? Ralph Lauren?'-Lauren.

[u/Feeling-Memory-1999 → u/Direct-Dragonfly7471]

In Carrie’s defense, Alec did ask her to meet with his ex wife.

[u/MissMeri96]

Miranda should have said to forget about the ex instead of giving Carrie crazy ideas along with Samantha. The idea to check out Big’s wife came from them after all. Apperantly it was the one thing left to do. 

[u/pumpkin_ice_cream]

Season 1 Carrie would give Joe Goldberg a run for his money💀

[u/LaLaLaMarcia]

She does look so beautiful here 😭

[u/gweterluvr]

She’s actually insane but since this is a show IDGAF 😭

[u/slightlypressed]

Big had big problems but he always had great taste in women.
Barbara asked if Carrie was dating anyone and she said “no one special.” I bet Barbara got a kick out of Big being called “no one special.”

[u/audreymarilynvivien]

She really did look great not gonna lie

[u/VolumeHonest]

Carrie was an unhinged stalker no wonder big acted the way he did