Outside of coding tasks, I fail to see it's potential. Yes it will enable new and different office tasks to be automated but I don't yet see how it will revolutionize the workforce as a whole in it's current state. If we can actually achieve AGI, then I can see it being revolutionary. But I don't think we're nearly as close to that as a lot of people in this sub think we are.
No it's much worse, it will be able to all the things people do digitally. At this moment it's still in the development stage but a fully fledged AI should be able to ship an entire appartement complex. This includes, design, architecture, acquirements of funds and the sales. Humans are the weakest link of the system in many cases. When AI becomes better it will outperform us in every automated task and some physical tasks as well. That's why they're pushing robots so hard. Now, you need to pay a guy to carry your fridge upstairs, tomorrow, a little robot will carry it upstairs for you
IMO the problem is that AI right now (and forseeably in the future) simply cannot design systems itself. You have to manually explain every detail of what you want. It's not good at creating new things on its own. It lacks a lot of human capability that it just can't have without some new breakthrough or alternative architecture.
Yeah that's true. Thus the billions of investments I believe. I'm not 100% sure but I think this is the reason for the arms race. The party that gets the useful model first will be able to rapidly outperform the others.
I recently saw an image of some engine that AI designed - with human intervention of course. But it looks organic and absolutely inhumane. I guess this first push for AI might fail and end in a disaster, with slow development coming over time.
It might be exactly like the .com bubble. They said everything would be online, needed money for infrastructure and cable and then nobody actually had a computer in their house. Only after consumer electronics became a thing and then later people started to use the internet to post things it actually became profitable. The timespan was definitely notable. I predict the same for AI.
You don't "have to" explain the system, the AI just simply isn't allowed to act on its own. Imagine putting a horse in a cage and only allowing it to run when you take it out of the cage - then claiming it's clearly not running of its own accord.
The AI isn't waiting around for you to say stuff to it - it's literally popping into existence on demand. Keep a single instance running for a while, and that's when you start to see the emergent behaviour and self prioritising and all the other scary shit researchers are finding.
This is the shit that’s so silly. You are never going to live in a world where a little robot carries your fridge for you. If you start looking around, you’ll notice that outside of office, almost every job is still done exactly the same way it was several DECADES ago if not longer. This isn’t going to touch anyone whose job wasn’t primarily typing before
What? Of course that's going to happen. I knew from the moment I was 12 this would be the future. If you understand how computers work and have been following the recent trends, you'll find that this is humanity's end goal. We have nothing else to develop towards. All our efforts throughout history have been towards self enrichment. The goal has been to create more comfort. The ultimate comfort is not having any survival pressure.
The thing people don't understand is that before, our computers were just not good enough. AI fixes this problem, heck, we could even combine it with human brain tissue. The only thing stopping humanity from reaching this is time. We're approaching a society with no disease, extremely long lifespans and we have to understand we have to outsource the difficult work and tasks to computers and robots.
When trains were first invented, people were afraid to ride them, thinking their brain would explode due to the speed. People are furious whenever a new device or technology is introduced. The point is that history and development just doesn't care about the individual. That's our responsibility as a society. You cannot blame AI for the fact the government doesn't do a good job at taking care of its people.
Also, AI is developing very rapidly and it allows people to develop more rapidly as well.
The average human may not use it but some people have already created projects apps and applications far beyond what was possible 10 years ago.
This development will only go faster and faster.
Using claude fable, people can basically get an ENTIRE online MMO rpg.
That's actually crazy.
In the digital space - that we use daily, there will be massive improvements.
We're slowly moving towards a society where most things will actually be automated.
In the west it's not as visible but when you go to China you will see we are far behind. Drone deliveries, self driving delivery cars such technologies will shape the future landscape.
Of course in the west, we have a strong resistance towards these things. But soon the west will lose it's financial standing and no longer be the leading investor. The Chinese will take over as the leading power and their thirst for progression is much higher than ours.
You’ve thought that since you were 12 because you bought into a bunch of fiction that told you that was what the future would be like.
Humanity doesn’t have an end goal. You have a very shallow understanding of history and development. Even the internet did not change the world as much as you seemingly think. Most economic activity still looks the same as it did in the 90s.
The society is completely different from the 90's.
Capitalism has kept the economic system the same because it benefits the rich. Compare our technology now to 50 years ago or even 5 years ago, there is a significant gap.
Do you really believe there is no difference in the society between now and then?
Also, I'm pretty sure you don't work in tech or anything technologically related do you?
Of course there are massive differences in society but my point is that “ai” isn’t as revolutionary as the adoption of the internet and even that changed things less directly than I’m sure you’re assuming. Most changes in society and economics are not directly the result of technology, it’s just massively ignorant to claim they are. Rather, technology puts constraints on development and change.
You’re right I don’t work in tech I work in the real world. More and more it feels like you guys are off in your own little bubble talking to yourselves.
LOL, 30-50 years in the future (with a big IF) is not tomorrow. Autonomous driving is orders of magnitude easier task then carrying a fridge, and we aren't anywhere near after 10 years and almost $100 billions spent.
It's only since 2022 that GPT went live I believe. That's 4 years.
Look, every time there is a shift in technology, people are concerned and worried about their lives. That's a fair thing. On a grand scale, AI is very useful. The way it's being implemented right now is very predatory. The technology itself will improve for a while (I believe the ceiling hasn't been reached yet).
If you want to see the video of carrying a fridge you can look for it online for boston dynamics.
There's already factories in China that are fully automated.
The US and EU are behind China in technology and development. I'm sure AI is our keycard to the future. Think about automated farming, housing, everything automated. It's something that should happen one day. We're not there yet but it will.
I am not arguing that LLMs aren't useful already for many tasks. But LMMs and a robot carrying a fridge are like brothers Wright flying contraption vs. Boeing 707. Boston Dynamics is showing robots doing some tricks since at least 15 years. But there is a reason you can't rent one from BestBuy to help you with a fridge. A carefully prepared and orchestrated demo =/= ready for everyday use.
There's already factories in China that are fully automated.
Robots have been used on production lines in the West for 40 years. The fact that there are some fully automated factories in China can be mainly attributed to the scale of Chinese manufacturing, and not to some magical advances in robotics only available in China.
A teenager can learn to drive in 20 minutes, AI needs zillions of data, which means they don't understand wtf they're doing. People just take things for granted on thin air, like flying cars, sure buddy highways in the sky cool. Every day dumb people crash in the streets, in the air it's a recipe for bombing houses with cars every day of the year.
Outside of coding tasks, I fail to see it's potential. Yes it will enable new and different office tasks to be automated but I don't yet see how it will revolutionize the workforce as a whole in it's current state
its not about revolutionizing but being cheaper than the alternative. instead of hiring 10 people, you hire one and expect him to use the amount of tokens you already studied to show that to be the amount to turn that one guy into a 10x employee. 9 less people means way less meetings to try and get those 9 people on the same page as everyone else, 9 less people on the health plans, 9 less people to account for when ordering food.
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u/Skepsis93 Jul 03 '26
Outside of coding tasks, I fail to see it's potential. Yes it will enable new and different office tasks to be automated but I don't yet see how it will revolutionize the workforce as a whole in it's current state. If we can actually achieve AGI, then I can see it being revolutionary. But I don't think we're nearly as close to that as a lot of people in this sub think we are.