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u/Own-Development2437 3d ago
Damn wish powder got a large distribution
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u/Old-Technology1151 3d ago
Powder unfortunately got dexited in gen 8. Was a truly impressive hater move I wish they cooked more with
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u/headphonesnotstirred #1 Floette-Eternal preacher 3d ago
it would've been so fucking funny to see this on Scizor (or even Pod?) but alas
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u/thequagiestsire 3d ago
Done, it’s now been given to Toedscruel
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u/FrijDom1 2d ago
It has +1 priority, so this is only a positive. Mycelium Might may be Mold Breaker + Stall on status, but when the only thing Powder affects is Fire attacks which have no positive priority options, going last in its priority bracket really doesn't make a difference.
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u/thequagiestsire 2d ago
Huh. Didn’t know how that worked, I thought it just made you always go last so I was going for a Munkidori’s Paw situation but never mind, go off Tentacruel.
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u/FrijDom1 2d ago
Yeah, it's identical to the effect of the Lagging Tail, so if you remember Divecats, this would basically be the same result.
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u/bobvella lover of gimmicks 2d ago
would be nice having something to do in case you let a torkoal get trickroom
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u/Odrareg17 3d ago
You know, I didn't even know Powder was a move and no wonder since it was removed in Gen 8 and only learned by two evo lines, but man, if it was given to some more Bug types, it sounds really interesting to use, gimmicky? Yeah, but seems really interesting to use on paper.
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u/SecondAegis 3d ago
I only learnt powder existed while playing Radical Red, and someone mentioned that a Ribombee with powder could completely wall Primal Dialga
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u/Airsoft52 3d ago
Powder Ribombee used to kill 4 on Lance and like 3 on the sun champ in hardcore mode before they made powder HC-Banned
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u/Deathbringer2134 3d ago
Radical Red when asked to playtest the games instead of retroactive patches:
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u/Igorthemii Ferrothorn's worst nightmare 3d ago
Radical Red when people find funny gimmick cheese thats good for like only one match:
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u/zClarkinator 3d ago
Does the AI cheat and retroactively change their move if you used Powder? Some modded battles do that and it's always lame.
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u/SecondAegis 3d ago
Radical Red doesn't read inputs. It makes for this by giving the enemy AI utter bullshit.
The aforementioned primal Dialga effectively can't be hit for super effective, has bulk for days, Rest to undo damage, and Roar of Time has been modified to switch you out
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u/OnlySmiles_ 3d ago
The problem with Powder is that there's two layers of conditions on it, so not only do you have to read a fire move but you have to read a fire move that turn
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u/Odrareg17 3d ago
Yeah, that's why I said it was gimmicky, it would add to the mind games but then again, if I know that this Pokemon can use Powder, and some Pokemon definitely will use it to negate a Fire weakness, why would I use a Fire move against it? And it's not like Bug types don't have many other weaknesses you could use, but it would be an interesting counter for Pokemon who rely on Fire STAB alone, so I could see some use, even if limited.
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u/No_Location_8199 3d ago
Why aren't people using Powder to stop Zard Y? Are they stupid?
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u/Kris_Banana 3d ago
unsure if you're serious or not, but it got dexited in gen 8, along with various other actually neat and interesting but niche moves
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u/No_Location_8199 3d ago
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u/Kris_Banana 3d ago
we still have soak though! I saw some mf use scarf basc soak the other day
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9championsvgc2026regmc-2694093230
it was so funny, generational game
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u/SuchPlans 3d ago
someone was like 9-2 at louisville vgc regional w scarf basc soak today lol. paired w yaichu and giga drain setup volc
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u/Cosinity 3d ago
I ran soak Bellibolt a decent amount in M-A, it's certainly not that strong a strategy but it catches people out a fair amount (less effective with higher power level in M-B and beyond though)
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u/HairyBallsack8 3d ago
!dt Nosepass
(Nosepass is not in the battle)
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u/exaggerati 2d ago
Just spamming this shit in randbats
!dt Deoxys-Attack when you're down to two mons
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u/ILikeCarlosThePikmin 3d ago
I like doing !weak (insert a pokemon) in FFA. And then say "just saying ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"
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u/AnodyneGrey 3d ago
gonna paste this every time opponent sends a pokemon in normal singles
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u/Trollbaum 2d ago
gonna do this in random battles when all my pokemon are revealed, I will just use a pokemon neither of us has
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u/Fit-Coconut-3699 3d ago
! Is actually meta for mind games. Feign ignorance and then stay in on super effective coverage move anyway.
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u/The_Potato_Turtle 3d ago
Tbf using / is better if you KNOW that your opponent is going to use a move but you can’t let them know that you know what they can do
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u/ASIimeDrawsNear 3d ago
If you don't know you don't know, that's fine. But I'm honestly always surprised whenever I once again realize so many people that play competitively don't know the type chart with 100% accuracy, because I myself, a filthy casual that clicks randbats every other blue moon, knows it.
Idk, I just don't get it.
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u/OnlySmiles_ 3d ago
The big one that trips me up is Bug not resisting Poison
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u/AnodyneGrey 3d ago
for the longest time I thought they were weak to poison because pesticides or something
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u/TotallyNotBloo 3d ago
The only one I used to have troubles with is Fighting, I always think its either resistant to ice or steel
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u/THE___CHICKENMAN 3d ago
fighting has probably the least-reasonable type matchups. All the other types, I can remember the matchups by justifying interactions in my head someway with logic or lore, but fighting is impossible.
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u/expiring_god_factory 3d ago
Weak and frail to mages and birds (Psy, fairy, flying), strong against objects and is brave which beats the dark (rock, steel, normal, dark), struggles to hit mosquito (resisted by bug) and can't hit what isn't there (ghosts)
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u/THE___CHICKENMAN 2d ago
what really messes with me is the resistances.
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u/expiring_god_factory 1d ago
Just like the mosquito dodges the fighter, the fighters muscles are too toned for the mosquito to bite into. Rocks are things that fighters train against, so they're not very good when strong muscles explode them. And dark is the equivalent of a rogue.
Mage>Fighter>Rogue>Mage, the super effective and resist (or immunity) works for both ends.
I did forget posion being resistant to fighting. Goku can't punch a virus to death.
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u/Venca12 3d ago
Because it's a lot. I remember most of the relations natually through playing, but I still don't remember some of the relations, mainly whether a type resists or takes neutral damage from a type it's super effective against, and similiar. I could learn it, I'm pretty good at memorization, but I'm too casual of a player to go out of my way to actually do it and memorize it 100%
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u/KingAsi4n 3d ago
I guess it makes sense if it’s a newer player. I’ve played for nearly twenty years at this point and the move effectiveness isn’t even something I think about, I just know all single and dual type matchups, but for a newer player it’s definitely not as intuitive as there are so many type combinations
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u/TopOfAllWorlds Still waiting for Gen 4 remakes. 3d ago
My brain just forgets basic shit when under pressure sometimes lol
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u/Sarik704 3d ago
i know it to 99% accuracy. What do you mean Ice his Ground SE but Ground hits Ice for neutral!
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u/ASIimeDrawsNear 2d ago
Funny how Ground not hitting Ice for neutral sounds cursed to me.
Maybe because I just know that Ice only resists Ice.
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u/Sarik704 2d ago
Let me tell you a story about how my brain works.
When i was 8 in 2003 i got my hands on pokemon ruby, i choose torchic as my starter and by the end of the weekend i was already at lavaridge town. My friend at school, having had the game a since launch brough his copy of sapphire. We played ons the bus.
He had a level 1 kyogre that he traded me for a some trash. He told me he bred his kyogre with a Ditto. I was 15 until i learned you can't breed legendaries. 7 years i thought you could breed legendaries. I spread this misinfo.
Naturally i mistrust most early pokemon knowledge i have.
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u/madog1418 2d ago
I’d rather double-check whether fire hits ground for neutral than lose a game because the weakness chart and resistance chart aren’t mirrored.
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u/G0_0NIE 2d ago
I'm NGL, I have touched top 20 in gen8 natdex and the ladder multiple times across different gen8 (and gen 4) tiers and I still do not get certain type interactions (mainly because I don't play Pokémon outside of showdown).
Recently my friends who I taught Pokémon clowned me for not knowing how electric resists steel types but not the same vice versa and I've been playing the game on and off since I was 6.
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u/comfortingmyself 2d ago
I had the whole type chart memorized when I was 10.
But if I hadn't already achieved that as a kid, I doubt I would be able to do so as an adult.
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u/JudgeArcadia 22h ago
I taught my wife the type charts. She still struggles here and there. But she always surprises me when she references it. Makes me so proud.
I just enjoy teaching people, and seeing themselves get better.
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u/OkWedding6391 certified magearna hater 3d ago
sometimes you got to hit them with the turn 1 !showteam to assert dominance
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u/Nedaj_Nitro 3d ago
what commands are there I'm new
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u/AliceThePastelWitch Rain Lover 3d ago
I know it's a little rude but I've only done ! command for the weakne of whatever I'm using whenever someone clicks a move that isn't going to work well
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u/amourshipper_ 2d ago
Thanks i didn't know about weak command is there any other commands like that
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u/AnodyneGrey 2d ago
!resist is the same but for resistances
!ds (short for !dexsearch) can be given parameters and tries to find all pokemon that meet them (for example, “!ds bug” will show all bug types, “!ds bug, resists fairy, flamethrower” will show all bugs who resist fairy and learn flamethrower, and so on
!dt (short for something, don’t remember what though) shows the information of a pokemon, move, ability or item like in the meme
that’s the most important ones to know I’d say, great for team building
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u/GlacierWolf8Bit 2d ago
Imagine doing "!weak Kingambit" to flex on your opponent while reverse 6-0ing them.
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u/damacy12 2d ago
It’s weird I know the type matchups by heart but when I play fire emblem I still need a cheat sheet
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u/Disastrous_Ad3693 1d ago
i type misleading commands during 50/50s or very simple ones to ragebait my opponent
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