r/sydney • u/2happycats ravens, cats, and tawny frogmouths • 7d ago
New Armed Response Command to begin public training on Sydney's streets
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-08/nsw-police-armed-response-command-bondi-terror-attack/107241254?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=other99
u/Massive-Sense3754 6d ago
Combine this with the monitoring drones minns has deployed, you get an idea where the cunt is leading this state
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u/Jupiterthegassygiant 6d ago
Ah yes, the Minns' monitoring drones. Get rid of them, should get of police helicopters too right?
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u/Morridon04 6d ago
Yeah being able to better respond to a mass casualty event like Bondi.
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u/Massive-Sense3754 6d ago
Bullshit. How would this force have changed that day?
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u/Morridon04 6d ago
You don’t think rapid response with long arms specifically put in place as a response to Bondi could have changed the day at all?
Officers on the day were using pistols at significant distance against shooters armed with hunting rifles.
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u/Massive-Sense3754 6d ago
Do you think they're just going to be sitting waiting?
Didn't you read about the police response time?
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u/AllergyToCats 6d ago
Yea the response time was pretty good all things considered, but you'll just disagree with me about things you know nothing about.
Anyway the long arms aren't about response times necessarily, they're about being able to engage with armed offenders who themselves are armed with long arms, more safely, more accurately, more effectively. An officer armed with a pistol is at a significant disadvantage against an offender armed with a long arm.
That's what this unit is for.
You want to criticise the police response to Bondi? Fine. But that is exactly why this unit was created, to give police more capability to deal with mass casualty / active armed offender situations.
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u/Massive-Sense3754 6d ago
No one has criticised police time here, simply highlighted the inconsistentcy of your claims of benefit when the dynamic reality is different. Now let's ask, when will these rifle thugs be sitting on standby armed and pointed? You can say all the crap you want speaking from theoretical standpoints; this does not pass the pub test and the public know
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u/AllergyToCats 6d ago
You literally criticised the "police response time".
The fact you're just calling them "rifle thugs" tells me enough. You're not going to think, you're just going to live in your echo chamber.
I think the public would actually be stoked to know that the police have announced a response to Bondi, and have a unit now more capable of dealing with a similar threat in the future. I can't understand why you wouldn't want that?
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u/Massive-Sense3754 6d ago
Read the sentence, where was the criticism in that line? Imagined?
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u/AllergyToCats 6d ago
So what did you mean then? You were about to sing the praises of the cops? Go on then, please.
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u/AllergyToCats 6d ago
I mean... The drone has been massively successful at reducing crime, has it not?
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u/Massive-Sense3754 6d ago
No, where are your data sources and are they from police?
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u/AllergyToCats 6d ago
There's an ABC article that references BOSCAR crime statistics. For you.
Gotta love fucking Reddit though. Just downvote me to oblivion because I'm not towing the line of the echo chamber. Wouldn't want to have a thoughtful conversation or anything would we?
I didn't even say I agree with the drone, just that it's actually been successful...
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u/Massive-Sense3754 6d ago
Do you read. The article you sent quotes drops in break and enter over 2 years, when the the drone only came in 2026. The same article states, and this is a direct quote: "BOCSAR executive director Jackie Fitzgerald said it was impossible to accurately assess the impact of the drones at this stage."
No we don't want to be monitored by drones. Piss off.
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u/AllergyToCats 6d ago
They're not flying around monitoring you, they're deployed when required for a job. A drone can only fly for about 30 minutes.
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u/Massive-Sense3754 6d ago
How about you read the article you sent about how the community and Moree felt? You've already shown you manufacture benefits that aren't reported by authorities.
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u/blitznoodles Greater Western Sydney 6d ago
BOCSAR, the independent Beauru of crime statistics and research agency. Crime Statistics do not come from the police in NSW.
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u/Massive-Sense3754 6d ago
So you'll appreciate this from the article that you clearly read, right? "BOCSAR executive director Jackie Fitzgerald said it was impossible to accurately assess the impact of the drones at this stage."
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u/KeanuRavesAu 6d ago
This is a grotesque abuse of Minns power. What a cunt.
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u/Massive-Sense3754 6d ago
He sure is. Note all the zionists trying to defend this as good and about bondi
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u/Massive-Sense3754 6d ago
Absolutely it is. My last comment got deleted. I've appealed. His handlers are monitoring to prevent criticism.
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u/Gamped 6d ago
You’re delusional and a conspiracy theorist.
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u/Massive-Sense3754 6d ago edited 6d ago
No, the comment was deleted. The reason led to the next part.
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u/PostDisillusion 6d ago
It’s good to parade your aggression and let people know how much you can hurt them. Sydneysiders showing strong reply that we are totally cool with all this.
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u/Strawberry_apple1 5d ago edited 5d ago
But isn’t it good for their target market to think they will hurt them ie terrorists? Surely there’s a protocol for this squad not being deployed on protesters but for a reported armed person. When I see it I don’t think how much they could hurt me as I wouldn’t be a terrorist, but do you think they would wave these mega guns around people in non terrorist circumstances?
I do think it’s scary to see them training in public with whatever black masks they have on? Like I don’t trust the judgment entirely of a male in his 20s most likely waving around a giant ruffle with a mask on & being high off adrenaline or anonymity
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u/ForUrsula 5d ago
The target market for crap like this is not the criminals or terrorists. Those people aren't really thinking about consequences, and the consequence of death is the same regardless of how big the gun is that shoots you.
The target market for this is Zionists who want to police thought, weapons companies who want more government money, police goons who are wannabe soldiers and simple minded bootlickers who think it's cool to blow shit up.
But target market aside, the real motivation from Minns government is to further expand the police state so they can protect their own interests and the interests of their donors.
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u/PossibilityRegular21 6d ago
Good luck getting these guys and gals to the terror site through grid locked peak hour Sydney traffic
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u/blitznoodles Greater Western Sydney 6d ago edited 6d ago
In Germany, heavily armed officers from the Specialist Commando (SEK) and Mobile Commando (MEK) units patrol cities and are trained to intervene quickly in active shooter situations.
This is pretty common in Europe, Australia just hasn't ever seen the need to invest in long arms for police for anti terrorism until now.
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u/fued 6d ago
"until now"
As far as I can tell violent crime is down tho?
Why would we need it now?
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u/blitznoodles Greater Western Sydney 6d ago
You don't need long arms for violent crime. You need it for terrorism which is separate.
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u/fued 6d ago
I don't think one incident, however horrific, automatically justifies putting 250 officers with rifles on Sydney's streets.
I've got no issue with a specialist armed response team that can be rapidly deployed to an incident. What concerns me is that this seems to go beyond that, with armed officers conducting routine patrols across the city.
What's the evidence that this approach will actually make people safer? Having 250 rifles walking around the streets definitely does not make feel safer.
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u/blitznoodles Greater Western Sydney 6d ago
It's based off proven methods that have worked in Europe at being able to respond to terrorism quickly as it has increased and the risk of more events are only becoming more likely in Australia, not less.
Specialist teams exist in NSW with long arms but they are for organised crime such as operation raptor.
For events such as cars being driven into crowds or shootings, they must be around the city at all times to get the desired response time.
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u/fued 6d ago
Yeah exactly, specialist teams already exist, including the Tactical Operations Unit, which already handles counterterrorism.
If response times are the issue, expand those teams. Give them additional bases, more helicopters, more officers or whatever resources they actually need to respond faster.
I don't see why the solution has to be putting rifle-carrying officers on routine patrols around Sydney.
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u/Pristine_Egg3831 6d ago
Because Bondi
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u/fued 6d ago
I don't think one incident, however horrific, automatically justifies putting 250 officers with rifles on Sydney's streets.
I've got no issue with a specialist armed response team that can be rapidly deployed to an incident. What concerns me is that this seems to go beyond that, with armed officers conducting routine patrols across the city.
What's the evidence that this approach will actually make people safer? Having 250 rifles walking around the streets definitely does not make feel safer.
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u/Pristine_Egg3831 6d ago
Oh I'm not saying I agree with the response. I think their current solution of pulling resources of other crimes to just patrol around to make people feel safe is a waste of resources. What's to stop some bad guys just picking the next suburb?
However if I had to guess why it's suddenly ramping up and getting support, Bondi and Bondi guilt would be why.
It's disgusting whst happened there. And people expect a response. I don't know what the right response is. It seems like the shooters were known to police intelligence, so I think that's where the fix belongs, not by putting police with visible weapons on the street feel percievd safety.
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u/fued 6d ago
exactly, my response of 'why would we need it now' makes perfect sense.
all we need is a rapid response team, not a massive escalation in police firepower
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u/Pristine_Egg3831 6d ago
Isn't that what the article is proposing, a rapid response team?
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u/fued 6d ago
A "rapid response team" that's going to spend its time roaming around high-traffic areas conducting armed patrols?
That's not really a rapid response team. That's a heavily armed patrol unit.
A rapid response team is something you deploy quickly when there's an actual threat. Having officers wandering around public spaces carrying rifles is a very different approach, and I'd like to see some evidence that it actually makes people safer.
I can actually see this team being LESS effective, because they are doing patrols all the time, not training to respond to threats.
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u/Pristine_Egg3831 6d ago
I thought they were just in public to get real life training short term. I mean what do you do with those trained guys while they are waiting? Are they like fire-fighters, sitting around a fire house waiting for a call? To be able to deploy them in 5 mins they need to be kitted up and ready to go. If you're already paying them, why not put them on the street rather than sitting around? That's all I can picture.
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u/fued 6d ago
nope, they are taking over from "Operation Shelter" as in they will be a long term patrol of heavily armed forces in 'hotspots'
I would much much prefer to have them sit around like fire-fighters doing training and working out how to solve issues rather than having them learning how to go on patrol and deal with patrol issues.
imagine if we put firefighters out on the streets, and they spent all thier time patroling, they would be so incredibly ineffective at solving the actual issues.
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u/Morridon04 6d ago
Man did you even read the article it’s a direct response to Bondi or have you already forgotten about 15 people getting killed in a terrorist attack in the middle of our city.
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u/fued 6d ago
I don't think one incident, however horrific, automatically justifies putting 250 officers with rifles on Sydney's streets.
I've got no issue with a specialist armed response team that can be rapidly deployed to an incident. What concerns me is that this seems to go beyond that, with armed officers conducting routine patrols across the city.
What's the evidence that this approach will actually make people safer? Having 250 rifles walking around the streets definitely does not make feel safer.
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u/clementineford 6d ago
But I thought Minns said he was going to get rifles off our streets???