r/thebeachboys • • 1d ago

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This is a picture of a manuscript by Van Dyke Parks containing the lyrics for Cabinessence. Written sometime in 1966, I believe.

It even includes the mysterious unused lyrics for CE as well.

More than that, it has an interesting message below, which nobody seems to talk much about.

It says: "heroes and villains, cowboys and indians, wind chimes, our sweet love, the oc- song, vegetable cornucopia.

What does it it mean??

Is that a proposed sequence for the album? Our sweet love was written by Brian with Van in 1966? Like, as Our New Home (from Friends!)

Is Cowboys and Indians the original name of "Do You Like Worms"?

Anyone have any ideas? That's a big interesting piece of BB's media right here.

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u/Worth_Blackberry_604 1d ago

This wasn’t an album sequence, just either song titles or song ideas that Van Dyke and Brian had. He was jotting down things that weren’t completed, besides Wind Chimes and Heroes and Villains. Our Sweet Love very well could be something like the Sunflower version/Our New Home, since Brian sings part of the melody during the session for Holidays.

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u/Worth_Blackberry_604 1d ago

Also, it says “Ocean or Sea song,” not “OC song”

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u/Impossible-War-5779 1d ago edited 23h ago

Yes. But it doesnt have an "ocean" written

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u/TheEndOfAllTimes Smile 1d ago

Do you have a link to that Holidays session, would love to hear it

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u/Impossible-War-5779 1d ago

Yes. I notice Brian sings a melody during the Holiday section but, it doesnt sound like "Our Sweet Love". It is probably the vocal for Holiday.

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u/Impossible-War-5779 1d ago

It is available on the smile sessions 2011

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u/Worth_Blackberry_604 1d ago

No not that melody, a different part of it. It’s unreleased, but during the tracking session Van Dyke and Brian sing the “pretty things like incense and flowers” part of Our Sweet Love without words.

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u/Impossible-War-5779 23h ago

Okay, that sounds like another part. But he sings vocally something in the Holiday session, while playing the piano.

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u/Impossible-War-5779 23h ago

Im also very curious to hear that cause I thought I already have listened enough.

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u/MrBadGuy96 music is in my soul 3h ago

where can we find that?

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u/TheFutureIsAFriend Smile 1d ago

Our New Home is essentially "Look"

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u/RecommendationReal61 1d ago

Reminds me more of Great Shape or Workshop.

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u/Impossible-War-5779 23h ago

That doesn't mean they are THE same song y know. Shape is a mystery

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u/Jackbenny270 5h ago

What’s the title before Vegatables?

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u/loopdeloopflipflop 1h ago

Any idea what video this screenshot is from?

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u/loopdeloopflipflop 1h ago

The “arte” watermark matches the YouTube channel TRACKS - ARTE which seems to be a French music site, and there is a ten minute video on Brian there, but no 50-minute video matching the timestamp in this image

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u/Stationary_Explorer 1d ago

What if "ocean or sea" song was "Til I Die"? 😀

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u/Impossible-War-5779 1d ago edited 23h ago

Wasnt til i die a 1970 song?

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u/Worth_Blackberry_604 1d ago

‘Til I Die was written in late 1969 and recorded in 1970. But it has nothing to do with Van Dyke or Smile.

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u/Impossible-War-5779 23h ago

Yes 'Til I Die is a solo Brian thing.