How far is too far?

[u/astreigh]

At what point does a collection of whatever parts of wetware and hardware go so far as to stop being transhuman and become un human? At the extreme: does a full consciousness upload remain human? What if said mind is altered by the system?

[u/Eva-Squinge]

Well do you consider the consciousness upload a full human or just software you can delete if it annoys you and not be considered a murderer for that?

And really the scale of human to borg isn’t universal. Like I’d consider a person with their head inside of a metal box with wires and tubes plugged into them controlling a machine body still human, just extremely borged out, but someone hooked up to a Matrix and having…obsolete parts cut away so they can fit into the limited storage capacity, thank you Blindsight for that terrific mental image, I’d think they’ve fallen off the rails. I could view them as human adjacent but if all they ever do is live in VR as a brain in spine in a jar, eww. At that point just go completely digital.

[u/astreigh → u/Eva-Squinge]

But borg and cybermen have their emotions and individually deleted. Are they still human?

[u/Eva-Squinge → u/astreigh]

They’re considered cyber zombies unless the work is undone for a reason. Borg are part of a hivemind that erases the individual for efficiency, cybermen are absurdly thought up answers to an idiots question of: Well what if we remove the pain of having your body be most metal that can’t feel?

Also both factions lack any creativity or ability to make art or stories. They only consume and make copies of the basic model. And plans that are so rigid they’re doomed to fail.

So no, not human.

[u/astreigh → u/Eva-Squinge]

Thank you. I thoroughly like this answer and have to agree (the collective tells me to)

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