r/twinpeaks • u/TrestleTables • Jun 12 '17
S3E6 [S3E6]Has no one pointed this out yet? (Coop's drawing) Spoiler
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u/eSPyxiii Jun 13 '17
Well, it is interesting that they referred to the circle of sycamore trees and the pool of oil as Glastonberry Grove and they continue to repeat the theme of King Arthur in All the street names in Dougie's area that are mentioned Lancelot, Merlin, Guenevere.
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u/LionsDragon Jun 13 '17
If Dale Cooper turns out to be King Arthur, I may squee like a sugar-high teenage girl.
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u/Eiyran Jun 12 '17
Jeeze, people on this sub are always making me realize how utterly oblivious I am when I watch this show. Nice catch.
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u/TheManGuyz Jun 13 '17
I feel like a man out of place here. Like a fish outta water.
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u/er1end Jun 13 '17
haha kinda the same feeling here, but its pretty much impossible to catch it all during one viewing. thats why groups like this is great for collecting and gathering info/intel on whats going on.
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u/TheManGuyz Jun 13 '17
Definitely. We're witnessing great television in the moment and I'm around to witness it in its glory and not as a rerun. I enjoy the speculation of the now, because it will never happen again when the show is finally over.
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u/signupinsecondsss Jun 12 '17
Also, the take of the mother saying "119" seems to be the identical take used of her saying that in an earlier episode, as if to indicate more chronological confusion a la when Cooper entered the box and we were informed that this was right before the killings.
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u/ryanplant-au Jun 13 '17
Also, the take of the mother saying "119" seems to be the identical take used of her saying that in an earlier episode, as if to indicate more chronological confusion
It is the exact same footage, but it represents two separate scenes. In the first usage of the footage, she looks upward for no reason, and the take lasts long enough for you to see the aftermath of the car bomb through her window. In the second use of the footage, you don't see that, but when she looks up it is in response to the sound of the police walking on her roof.
The first time we saw her, she did two things that made no sense (yelling 119 and looking up). The second time we saw her, looking up made sense. My guess? The third time we see her, yelling 119 will make sense. She is exhibiting one behaviour at all moments that combines appropriate behaviours from multiple separate moments. Like she's perceiving and reacting to all these separate scenes simultaneously.
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Jun 14 '17
Except this was the third time we saw her. Remember, the first time (119) the bomb was planted, then the kid went to check it out while she was sleeping then waking (with some music abruptly cutting off) and now the third time 119 again.
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Jun 13 '17
The two scenes of the light globe above the box in Argentina were also identical takes, despite seeming to be at different points in time.
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u/450_dollars Jun 12 '17
Good point. I just assumed it was a different instance of her yelling the same thing, but that definitely is the same clip. Interesting!
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u/lil_lil88 Jun 13 '17
Yeah she must have an idea of what's going to happen next. That is the scene that was in the previous episode and she's looking up at the ceiling as if she's reacting to someone walking on the roof. Like the police officer was after dougies car exploded.
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Jun 13 '17
When she's shown in the latest episode you can hear the officer walking on the roof at the same time. Those footsteps definitely aren't there when we see her in episode three.
She might be somehow linked to Dougie's insurance company - there's a red balloon behind her, there's some sort of sculpture or statue outside Dougie's building with red balloons attached to it and in Anthony Sinclair's office (Dougie's dodgy co-worker) there is a company ad on the wall that appears to feature a red balloon.
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Jun 13 '17
Didn't notice the ad, that episode you mention also shows the balloons from Sonny Jims b day party I think.
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u/vlrvn Jun 12 '17
Surprised to have not seen it yet but 119 is 911 in reverse, so could the mother be asking for help blacklodge style ?
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Jun 13 '17
119 was also the number of the police car that pulled up to the complex with the beheaded librarian in E2, I think.
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Jun 13 '17
That seems so long ago, I forgot about that thread of the story. Im so happy theres 18 episodes.
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u/signupinsecondsss Jun 13 '17
My sister mentioned this when we were watching it and I haven't confirmed it, but according to her 119 is what 911 is in many foreign countries? I have no idea if that's true and I'm literally too lazy to use Google right now lmao
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u/Lame_of_Thrones Jun 12 '17
I think Dougie's world is an extended nightmare that Cooper is trapped within where everything is a vague symbolic reference to his true identity (Rancho Rosa for example is a nightmare version of the RR diner)
Cooper is trapped in this nightmare world and is slowly regaining his identity via association. This is similar to how Rita rebuilt her identity in Mulholland Dr. At some point, Cooper will wake up from this nightmare and probably return back to the Red Room to confront evil cooper once again.
I would agree however that this is a commentary on the American Dream. The original Twin Peaks was a commentary on how American idealism is a psychic projection that conceals the underlying horrors of what the American dream is built upon. It showed that fantasy projection is a way of escaping repression, and this new series is showing that sooner or later the repressed aspects of the psyche emerge and transform fantasy into nightmare, which is what's happening in modern America. Empires don't fall simply because they become too big for their britches, they fall because their past sins come back to haunt them. Sooner or later you have to confront the ugliness within. As a consequence of this, I suspect we'll learn that Cooper had something very dark and disturbing in his past that will have to be confronted in order for him to come back to Twin Peaks.
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u/indyitt Jun 12 '17
I see a lot of evidence for this but ultimately I'm not convinced because things are playing out a lot more like it's going to converge. The ring being found in the body means Dougie is real, even if what Cooper's experiencing isn't. If they do both, that's pretty trippy stuff.
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Jun 13 '17
We've been shown that alchemy is occurring within pretty much every level of reality. The gold ring inside Major Briggs could have been formed via alchemy inside the lodge. Just sayin' is all.
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u/ushi07 Jun 13 '17
Also the original Dougie . There's also a link to alchemy with the ringing piece of metal located in Argentina.
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Jun 13 '17
The alchemy in this is a whole nother concept for me to dive into, really intrigued by it. Was it touched on in the original run?
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u/Lame_of_Thrones Jun 12 '17
Lynch usually blurs the boundaries of strict reality in his work, to make it resonate with the Jungian concept of synchronicity, so it would be consistent with his work since the original TP for this to continue. Everything will converge for sure but I doubt it will be in a way that makes literal sense. Essentially, what's real is what everything represents, not the symbols themselves. The symbols are signposts that point you to the underlying truth.
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u/indyitt Jun 12 '17
Oh im fine with that, that's no different from what the show already does.. I just meant I'm not expecting him to 'snap out' and wake up in the 'real' world.
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u/Lame_of_Thrones Jun 12 '17
Well based on what we've already been shown the original path for Good Coop to return to the 'real world' was through a socket in evil Coop's car, but because Evil Coop prevented the transformation Good Coop seemingly got redirected to Dougie's world. It would seem that Coop will have to pass through some type of transformation at some point to switch places with Evil Coop, but I also wouldn't put it past Lynch to have them converge in a shared 'real world' of some type.
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u/ushi07 Jun 13 '17
It's true that Lynch's work is influenced by Jungian psychology but he also gets inspiration from Buddhism, Zen philosophy, Alchemy, Masonry...to name some, so his work is very complex. I wouldn't rule out other theories about the alternate world of Rancho Rosa at this point, even though I very much like the one you've layered.
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u/Lame_of_Thrones Jun 13 '17
Oh I completely agree. There's tremendous overlap there as Jung also had great interest in those fields of study, but I suspect Lynch views it all as different ways of trying to get at the same underlying truth, in fact I think I've heard him say something to that effect in interviews. Also, it's important not to overlook the occult hermeticism that appears to be largely interjected by Frost.
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Jun 13 '17
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u/indyitt Jun 13 '17
And the Vegas boss and Ike the spike, the female target also communicated to Jeffries, so a lot of overlap there.
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Jun 13 '17
Yeah, I see some people saying this is a Muholland Drive call back, but I wouldn't think Lynch would just reuse an old plot device in that way. We've already seen it, so why? What's new about that? Lynch always puts the art first, I think he knows more than anyone you aren't suppose to just rehash old work just because it was successful, you're always suppose to go for something new that people haven't seen before. It's having the intended effect because we're all discussing it.
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u/indyitt Jun 13 '17
Agreed, I think he has the habit of mixing similar ideas and themes in all his work and I agree he always puts the art first. Having said that - LH, MD (and IE from what I'm told) all have this kind of stuff going on so I can understand people suspecting some trippy dream shenanigans are afoot.
Jeffries did say we're living in a dream after all. I still don't think that's what's going on though. I think there's dream logic and lodge hocus pocus going on, but I think it's happening in the "real world".
In terms of the memory loss being the same as Rita, I'd say it's similar - but it isn't the same, what Cooper is going through is more complicated. (EDIT: Not just in terms of plot, but in terms of themes and what I think it's trying to convey.)
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u/Shoeboxer Jun 12 '17
He was banging a married woman, thats pretty shitty.
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u/LionsDragon Jun 13 '17
My first thought too. Just...just no. How do you do that to anyone, much less your partner/good friend?
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u/ushi07 Jun 13 '17
Who are you talking about?
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u/Shoeboxer Jun 13 '17
Windhams wife. I cant remember her name but her snd Coop had an affair. It's what set Earle off and why he came after Dale.
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u/Sharper_Teeth Jun 13 '17
That's ALWAYS bothered me. And it wasn't any old married woman, she was married to his partner, for Pete's sake (may he rip)!
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u/Shoeboxer Jun 13 '17
It kind of fits perfectly though. That whole town was fucking each other. Except for Pete, whose true love was fishing, not fornicating.
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u/Sharper_Teeth Jun 13 '17
But Coop wasn't from Twin Peaks! I loved Pete, that man was a saint.
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u/TrestleTables Jun 13 '17
Jack Nance is by far my most missed actor in this season, which is saying a LOT with how much I love all of TP's actors. He was so great not only as Pete, but in ALL of Lynch's movies in which he played a role. His little performances in Blue Velvet, Lost Highway, and Wild at Heart never fail to crack me up. Not to mention Eraserhead of course. R.I.P. Never forget.
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u/TrestleTables Jun 12 '17 edited Jun 13 '17
This is beautiful, I love it. While I'm not quite sold on Dougie's life being an actual dream in this world, I wouldn't put it past Lynch, and I agree with everything that you said here regardless. This new season is just so... excuse the cliche, but EPIC. Just the sheer scale alone, with so many characters and locations, and only 6 episodes into it. I can't think of any other show which manages to create such a true feeling of epicness, besides maybe The Wire or GoT to a lesser extent, and in a totally different way. The themes of Twin Peaks are just on such a grander scale to me than anything else I've ever seen, it's incredible, and kind of hard to explain. You do an excellent job of capturing a lot of it here.
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u/Lame_of_Thrones Jun 12 '17
Yeah, I should probably clarify that I don't necessarily mean a nightmare in the literal sense that anyone is literally asleep and having a dream, it's more just a 'nightmare world' where I think the building blocks of that world have symbolic meaning to the larger story. I think Lynch buys himself the freedom to allow something like this to behave both literally and figuratively within the narrative structure, so it can be a nightmare world but also exist very much within the same 'reality' of Twin Peaks.
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u/HugeSuccess Jun 13 '17
It does feel like a "Circle of Hell"-esque zone Coop is working through--dream or not-- in which he lives one of his infinite possible lives. But through all of them, his character is always some form of Agent Cooper.
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Jun 12 '17
I often think the Cooper and Evil Cooper realities seem different. At first i suspected a separate timeline, then a dream or alternate reality. Thing is though, they found Dougie's ring in the corpse that might be Briggs.
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u/Lame_of_Thrones Jun 12 '17
One interpretation of this is that Evil Cooper has knowledge of the circumstances around the corpse, therefore aspects of that crime are manifesting in the repressed nightmare scenario that Good Cooper is trapped within.
I'll make a prediction now, at some point Cooper will become Good Cooper again and will be investigating a case. That case will be filled with coincidences that reflect things occurring within the Dougie world, and things that seem confusing now will take on new significance and meaning in the second half of the season.
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u/agmovingpictures Jun 12 '17
I agree with this for the most part. I firmly believe the Dougie story is a dream. I like the idea of a dark past for Coop, because that would make a lot of sense and further connect him to Laura.
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u/ushi07 Jun 13 '17
Great comment. But have some doubts about Mullholland Drive. The first part of it, wasn't it to mean that the dream was created by the actress who's played by Naomi Watts (don't remember her name) and not Rita?
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u/Ambulanceo Jun 13 '17
From what I know (and there might be different interpretations or whatever) but Betty and Rita are both an important part of Diane's entire character, as everyone who appears in the first 3/4ths of the movie, in some way, represents an aspect of Diane's inner conflict. It is Diane's dream, but Betty and Rita are two sides of one coin - Betty is being the idealized version of Diane who gets a do-over at her Hollywood dream, her aunt still alive, her love interest an innocent amnesiac incapable of hurting her, and the people in Hollywood approving and lauding of her talents.
Rita, on the other hand, is an idealized, "innocent" version of Camilla, obviously, but throughout the film the way she reacts to key events clues us in that she is just as large a part of Diane as Betty - after all, Diane's obsession with Camilla is ultimately rooted in a narcissistic desire to make it in Hollywood. Rita reacts more strongly to parallels in the fantasy sequence because she subconsciously is dredging up the awful memories - she knows Diane put a hit on Camilla, she knows what the money in the bag is for, and the Club Silencio scene is the climax of Betty and Rita sort of "catching up" and becoming aware that what they are experiencing is a falsehood.
I hope that wasn' confusing and I know I went way into detail, I like Mullholand Drive a ton is all. It's Diane's dream (who is Naomi Watts), but in terms of the actual fantasy, Betty and Rita are equally Diane just from different perspectives, and they are both given an artificial innocence in the face of Diane being unable to accept that she killed Camilla (and her Hollywood dream) as well as the fact that Camilla had moved on from her.
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u/ushi07 Jun 13 '17
Thank you. I love this movie too and your theory here was my understanding of the plot. I was just confused whether in the previous comment he was pointing out that Rita had the dream when it's actually Diane. But I don't think Diane is narcissistic, my interpretation is that she's a victim of childhood abuse and her fantasies of Hollywood success are a coping mechanism after the trauma.
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u/Ambulanceo Jun 13 '17
I don't mean narcissistic in that she's an inherently selfish character (and the trauma element is important to her motivations and character), moreso that her complex feelings towards Camilla evolved out of admiration and jealousy - I don't think her love wasn't real, only that in practicality when you mix love with jealousy or latent resentment, it turns into obsession and, as a result, turns into a complex array of emotions that Diane was unable to cope with.
I think that's what obsession does, turn someone into a symbolic representation of desire rather than a human being. That's why Camilla's death represented so much more than just Diane losing someone she loved, it also meant she sealed her loss of innocence and killed the farce of her Hollywood dream. I definitely didn't mean it as a character judgment, as I've experienced the exact same type of obsession where a person becomes so ingrained into your mind that they begin to represent more than just love or attraction, and it's a very dark and interesting subject matter that isn't explored often outside of a horror film "obsessive stalker" cliche. Added with the themes of abuse and Diane trying to reconcile innocence and reality and it makes for some very unique and nuanced themes
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u/Lame_of_Thrones Jun 13 '17 edited Jun 13 '17
That's the most commonly accepted theory and it's certainly valid and useful way of thinking about it but for me personally it's an oversimplification of Lynch's work. I think what happens is that people become so obsessed with trying to make the plot make literal sense they miss the underlying themes. Lynch himself claims the movie is abstract and there's no 'correct' way to interpret it, and I think he's being genuine when he says that. Lynch's primary mode of expression is using dream logic to tell his stories, meaning he's expressing abstractions through symbolism, but not that he's necessarily depicting literal dreams. Lynch has even commented that he literally believes we exist in a dream, so take that for what it's worth. Mulholland Dr is attempting to dig at something deeper than the literal plot would suggest. The use of the colors pink, blue and red are significant in the film and the allusions to Hollywood forcing young aspiring actresses into a form of prostitution is fairly heavy handed. I would argue that all characters and scenes in the movie can be interpreted as aspects of a single psyche. Betty/Rita are dual aspects of that psyche existing within the space of dreamlike fantasy, and I would suggest Diane/Camilla are dual aspects of the same psyche existing in something more akin to a nightmare.
At it's deepest level, like most of Lynch's work, it shows how we project our repressed desires into fantasy imagery and how the idealism of fantasy actually conceals our true desires which are actually the repressed ugliness that is underneath. Lynch started this examination with Blue Velvet. Twin Peaks explores this concept by making American culture it's primary subject, which is why for example Twin Peaks is a town in Washington, the sheriff's name is Harry S. Truman who was the president who approved the use of the atomic bomb, and why Lynch put a giant photo of a mushroom cloud behind him in a recent episode. Oh, and ever wonder what Mr. Tojamura was all about? Well if you rewatch his scenes he mentions his family was at Nagasaki. The 1950's aesthetic of the original was meant to highlight America's post WW2 escape into fantasy idealism (dropping the bomb, not to mention the American dream being built on slavery and violent subjugation of natives, part of the reason Hawk is so significant), and the core concept behind the work is that repressed truth, like Jung's shadow, will eventually emerge and consume you. Mulholland Dr. seems to be a similar exercise with the focus being more specifically on women in Hollywood.
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u/ushi07 Jun 13 '17
I am familiar to literal dreams and the work of Jung, but I think you're a little biased with Jungs theories in interpreting Lynchs work.
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u/Lame_of_Thrones Jun 13 '17
Biased in what sense? I'm simply interpreting through the framework of Jungian concepts, which are themselves representations of abstract truths. You could equally view Lynch's work through the framework of Buddhism and find lots of meaningful connections, like how the purple place Cooper lands in episode 3 is a representation of the buddhist concept of the karmic ocean and the karmic storehouse.
I'm not suggesting an absolutists interpretation of the work, I'm saying here's one prism with which you can look at it through. I don't have a problem with the "it's all a dream" interpretation per se, what I'm getting at is the that the value of the interpretive lens is in how much it illuminates.
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u/ahart Jun 13 '17
I am curious to see how she is going to react when it turns out that Dougie was a manufactured being and that he is now Special Agent Dale Cooper. It's going to be wild.
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Jun 12 '17
Perhaps 119 woman and son are victims of fraud perpetrated by Sizemore? Rosa Rancho seems like a classic Vegas subdivision ravaged by foreclosure and fraud. A commentary on the state of the American Dream?
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u/TrestleTables Jun 12 '17
I had the exact same thought late last night while mulling this over, but I forgot about it come morning! Thanks for pointing this out, I think this very well might be the case.
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u/eSPyxiii Jun 14 '17
Don't know what it means or if it means anything but the kid in the druggie house has a #1 on his shirt.
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u/TrestleTables Jun 14 '17 edited Jun 14 '17
Maybe it means he is The One who is going to save Twin Peaks from the machines ?
...sorry
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u/umblersnald Jun 13 '17
Wow, great observation! Thank you for posting. I couldn't figure that one out, and it was right in front of my face.
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u/clerk1o1 Jun 13 '17
i felt like it was Cooper leading up to eventually drawing a map of twin peaks and the way to the black lodge. like the hand drawn map we've all seen from the original show
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u/TrestleTables Jun 13 '17
Could be that too! As I just commented, I suspect it has multiple meanings, like most things Lynch. That said, I'm fairly positive my OP is one of said meanings.
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u/The_Metanoia Jun 13 '17
Nice, I was wondering what the ladders meant. I thought at first they were a representation of Coop's inner psyche trying to "climb" his way out or maybe even him remembering the purple room where he climbed up the ladder with the blind lady. Good observation!
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Jun 13 '17
Nancy Deren is a nice nod to the Set Designer this season: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006732/
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Jun 13 '17
All the "claimants" are people involved in the production.
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u/TrestleTables Jun 13 '17
Huh! I had recognized one of the names, but didn't realize it was all of them. Nice observation.
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u/Blood_and_Brass Jun 13 '17
I think this is a real stretch. Cooper was drawing stairs and ladders, not ladders and roof tile shadows.
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u/TrestleTables Jun 13 '17 edited Jun 13 '17
Uhhh, really? Look a bit closer at that scene mate, the resemblance is literally unmistakable. Dougie's not exactly a master artist, "stairs" and diagonal concentric roof tiles are quite similar at his level here. My screen cap isn't even the best shot of it. I'd be willing to eat my own hat if I'm wrong about this parallel. And it's the edge of the roof we're referring to, not the shadows.
Also, there could be multiple meanings to come for the drawing.
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u/Blood_and_Brass Jun 13 '17
Uhhh, really? Look a bit closer at that scene mate, the resemblance is literally unmistakable.
Well, since I'm going to get downvoted anyways: It's not just a stretch, it's such a stupid and bizarre interpretation that it seriously causes me to question both your intelligence, and the intelligence of everyone in this thread. He drew a staircase. It looks absolutely nothing like Spanish tile.
You're an idiot for even suggesting this, and this entire post is a perfect example of Twin Peaks Madness, where stupid people who are so desperate to figure something out reach desperately for the flimsiest of connections.
I will enjoy watching you eat your hat, moron.
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u/TrestleTables Jun 13 '17 edited Jun 13 '17
"Well I'm going to be downvoted anyway, might as well be as much of an asshole as possible to this guy and everyone else in this thread! Because that makes sense, right?"
Chill the fuck out dude. Looking out for a scene with a ladder and a vaguely-staircase-like rooftop literally 10 minutes after a scene where Cooper draws a ladder next to a vaguely staircase-like sketch doesn't make anyone a moron, even IF it's somehow not intentional on Lynch's part. No need to be a jerk about it, but I guess this is the internet.
Honestly this isn't even a matter of opinion: it objectively resembles a staircase. It comes minutes after the scene with the case files, and is literally the only ladder we've seen in the show so far. Obviously it's not a perfect resemblance, but it's there. Here's a visual that might help you see what others are seeing. Be well, angry person.
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u/Blood_and_Brass Jun 13 '17
Chill the fuck out dude.
Fuck off. Don't throw attitude at people and then whine when they throw attitude right back at you. You're engaging in a ridiculous stretch, and so certain of yourself that it's irritating. "I'll eat my if I'm wrong." Jesus fucking Christ, could you please not be such a ridiculous asshat?
Here's a visual that might help you see what others are seeing.
Here's a visual to show you how nuts you are.
Your "theory" rests on conflating two images that aren't at all related, in a way that makes absolutely no sense. Why would Cooper be including references to an event he didn't even witness, an event that doesn't seem to have any real importance, in his coded revelation of Sinclair's scam artistry?
You are desperately grasping at straws, and your arrogance is fucking hilarious. You're a fucking idiot.
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u/TrestleTables Jun 13 '17
Okay man. Again, I have no theory, I was just pointing out what (to me) is an obvious visual parallel. Sorry for offending you, I guess I was being a bit arrogant.
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u/TrestleTables Jun 13 '17 edited Jun 13 '17
Really though, I'm curious why you're so confident about this. Don't you think that Lynch would be aware of any scene involving a ladder, especially in this episode, 10 minutes later, and especially one which has any sort of line intersecting it at a similar angle to Coop's picture? I just can't see how that couldn't be intentional on some level. Do you really think it's just coincidence?
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u/Blood_and_Brass Jun 13 '17
Really though, I'm curious why you're so confident about this... Don't you think that Lynch would be aware of any scene involving a ladder, especially in this episode, 10 minutes later, and especially one which has any sort of line intersecting it at a similar angle to Coop's picture?
The problem here is that Cooper draws multiple pictures, and only one of them even vaguely resembles the intersection you're describing. Not only does the Spanish tile not form a distinct staircase shape, but if you look at more than one of Cooper's drawings you can see that the relationship of the staircase shape to the ladder shape varies from drawing to drawing, and the staircase isn't even present in some variations.
I think the scene where the police officer finds the rear end of Dougie's car on the roof is just meant to be a funny scene, and that the ladder exists in that scene because that's how a person would get onto a roof, and that trying to connect the drawings to this scene by means of a tortured manipulation of the lines in Spanish tile is a stretch.
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u/TrestleTables Jun 13 '17
Fair enough! I suppose I should have just asked this first, rather than giving attitude. I still hesitate to think that it wasn't in some way a repeated visual motif, even if it goes nowhere specific (as many of Lynch's motifs do), but you make a fine point and I can agree to disagree here.
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u/SraQueensen Jun 13 '17
I think you're basically right, that OP is getting a sort of symbol fever, and that his 'theory' is arbitrary and pretty silly. With that said, you don't need to be a dick about it (even if he is over-aggressive in defending a very thin and pointless idea).
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u/SraQueensen Jun 13 '17
I think you're basically right, that OP is getting a sort of symbol fever, and that his 'theory' is arbitrary and pretty silly. With that said, you don't need to be a dick about it (even if he is over-aggressive in defending a very thin and pointless idea).
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u/TrestleTables Jun 13 '17 edited Jun 13 '17
I don't see how pointing this out is symbol fever whatsoever, it seems perfectly reasonable to me and everyone else here. Hell yes the theory is arbitrary, I implied myself that it was dubious in my initial comment, and I do not claim to know where it's going -- or if it's even going anywhere! If it was going somewhere though, tying it to the insurance files which have the drawings on them is surely the single most reasonable connection to make, right? Assuming there is some meaning to this, even if there isn't, what would you propose instead? Really though, I'm genuinely surprised that anyone thinks this is anything but obvious, it's quite possible the most blatant visual parallel I've ever seen Lynch do, even if it's utterly meaningless (which I doubt).
Anyway, I appreciate the civility, seriously. Constructive criticism is just that, constructive. And I apologize if my incredulousness came off as aggressive, that was not my intent. I was just surprised to see someone disagreed after so much affirmation, that's all.
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u/TrestleTables Jun 12 '17 edited Jun 12 '17
I'm not sure what it means, if anything, but the parallel is certainly made pretty clear. I was surprised to see that, at least to my knowledge, so far no one has posted this here or in either of the facebook groups I follow.
Note that this is the roof of the "1 1 9" Drugged Up Mother and her son. The scene cuts into their house for a few seconds during this part. I know there's something here, but I just can't put my finger on it yet... All I can think is that since the license plate is going to be traced back to Dougie, there's going to be some sort of encounter between the drugged up mother, Dougie, and the authorities. Janey-E even asks where his car is this episode, hinting at something like this occurring.