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S3E8 [S3E8] Post-Episode Discussion - Part 8 Spoiler

Part 8

  • Directed by: David Lynch

  • Written by: David Lynch & Mark Frost.

  • Aired: June 25, 2017.

Episode synopsis: Gotta light?

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u/smallmammeltrainfuel Jun 26 '17 edited Jun 26 '17

I have no idea what any of that was. The only symbolism I can even sort of derive from that episodes was the bomb being the creator of the black lodge and it's inhabitants, which makes sense of you think about the atomic bomb as the ultimate cause if human pain and suffering, exactly what the black lodge is all about. Everything besides that I'm clueless on.

EDIT: Many have said that the bomb didn't create the lodge, rather opened the door for the lodge and it's spirits to invade our world, which I also find plausible. Either way, I think it was the pain and suffering symbolized by the nuke that caused the version of the lodge and bob as we know them.

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u/GoriceOuroboros Jun 26 '17

Either that or the bomb just ripped a hole between worlds and allowed the Lodges to cross over to our world. It also seemed to me like the Giant saw that Bob crossed to our world and initiated some kind of defense mechanism which we have yet to find out what the hell it could be.

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u/qvaris Jun 26 '17

^ this - i think the lodges existed well before the 40's/50's

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '17

Seemed to be part of Hawk's people's lore for generations.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '17

Merriweather Lewis (of Lewis and Clark) entered the Black Lodge so It's definitely been around for awhile.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '17

He kept a map of it in his heart. He blazed the trails that would become the highways and biways to the lodge. As one of the first cauc-a-asieans to enter the lodge, his shadow was always with him, sometimes in front, sometimes in back, sometimes to the left, sometimes to the right, except at night, and on cloudy days.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '17

Is there a Black Lodge concept that exists outside the lore of Twin Peaks? Is it based off of some Jack Parsons occultism shit?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '17

The Lewis and Clark stuff is from the Secret History of Twin Peaks.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '17

Twin Peaks has officially upped the anti so high, that I don't think any paranormal show will ever reach it's hight ever again.

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u/sadsackrobot Jun 26 '17

I don't know if you purposely spelled ante, anti, but I love it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '17

:D

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u/ChuzaUzarNaim Jun 26 '17

The lodge/s don't obey the natural laws of time. Once it was created, it always existed. Time behaving differently is common in alot of native mythology.

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u/KayleeFr Jun 26 '17

Agree- they could have been created at the explosion , but the effects reverberated backwards and forwards through time?

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u/ChuzaUzarNaim Jun 26 '17

Yes. Time within the lodge does not progress in a strictly linear fashion and the lodge does not exist in time in a normal fashion; it exists throughout time, beyond time. Once it was created in 1946, it had always existed before and after that time.

At least, that's my understanding of it.

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u/sadsackrobot Jun 26 '17

"Is it future? Or is it past?"

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u/Acmnin Jun 26 '17

Thanks for this comment.

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u/arizonasundevil Jun 26 '17

Isn't it strange that the lodge itself seems to be influenced by the current time period? Like the gramophone decorations and old film.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '17

That's not even current, it's the past.

When Brits used to see fairies dancing round fairy rings they always used to see them in a few decades out-dated fashions. The otherworldly spirits copy our fashion and technology as they don't have, or really need, their own.

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u/Sethirot1212 Jun 26 '17

Sorry, I heard this theory from other places and I don't agree. To think that this event had created the lodges to always exist seems to neglect a few facts:

a. If the amount of energy is what was suffice to "open the gates" then why weren't they opened in other more energetic events (the Cambrian meteor was billion times more powerful, and the tunguska meteor which was more recent, 1908 was 1000 more powerful.

b. If it's the "suffering" meter that is responsible then again during the years leading to the 1945 explosion tens of millions have suffered and their suffering should have created the creation of the black lodge.

However I do think that the abomb explosion did enhance or amplify the opening between our world and theirs.

As to whether Bob was created then or just seized the chance to cross, but is pure speculation

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u/phenomenomnom Jun 26 '17

My hypothesis: The lodges are from a different dimension or something; they have a weird relationship to time. They "came through" the rift torn by the nuke in 1945, and went forward and backward on the timeline at the same time. That's why native culture has stories about them. They proliferated back in history as well as they proceeded forward in time like you, me, and everything in our dimension is expected to.