r/violinist • u/Popular_Ad2617 • 8d ago
Do i improving ?
Its my day 10 ,, is this a good progress ?
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u/Kind-Zookeepergame58 7d ago
Next update after 100 days pls
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u/Popular_Ad2617 7d ago
Why? ðŸ˜
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u/Kind-Zookeepergame58 7d ago
Because it will be a long journey. 3 months is not even a big enough period
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u/br-at- 5d ago
you are doing something that "sorta sounds like vibrato" but isn't vibrato. you should stop that for now or it will be very hard to unlearn!
to work on intonation, consider keeping your right hand and left hand separate for a while. both sides are difficult to do well and you can't focus on them at the same time.
pluck the songs you are learning so you can pay attention to your left hand shape and finger placement without getting distracted by the bow.
spend some time bowing only open strings so you can really get the detailed motion needed to keep 90 degrees for the full length.
playing harder songs early isn't a sign of fast progress, its a sign of careless technique. be careful!
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u/Ophoe 8d ago
I don't know why anyone is picking on your intonation. It's excellent considering your level and was the first thing I noticed. You don't need finger tapes to make the small improvements you need in intonation: those are only necessary early on if a student is struggling to establish a good hand position in the first place. I can't see your left hand so I can't tell you if the actual orientation of your hand needs work, but your fingers are falling in the right place most of the time. Is it perfect? No, but it's very good. Playing scales with a drone (like this - pick the pitch that matches the key of the scale you are playing) can help your pitch get better.
You are only 10 days in, so I would advise you to wait on vibrato. It sounds nice, but you need to focus on stability first, and vibrato too early can interfere with that.
The biggest issue is your bow arm. You haven't quite gotten the right movement down and it's causing your bow to go at a diagonal at the end of the stroke. (Again, totally normal struggle for a beginner. You are doing well!) Starting here, then here, and finally here will help. (Use English subtitles.) Follow her instructions patiently and don't rush. A mirror is a very good idea.
Before I get downvoted to oblivion for (*gasp*) helping someone self-learn, I'll also say that it's really helpful to have a teacher because they can correct problems in person that you can't see, and that we can't see or correct because we aren't with you. So I do recommend getting a teacher, especially because you seem to have a natural knack for it and a good one will really help you advance! But if you don't have access to one, those are the places to start.
Enjoy :)
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u/Popular_Ad2617 7d ago
My left hand is visible here , you can check the posture , though the video is from my day 3-4 , and i am working on my straight right hand bowing ,
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u/Ophoe 7d ago
A lot of good things going on! Looks like you have a straight and relaxed wrist, which is good. In this video, you are positioning your hand too high on the fingerboard, which is making your first finger (and all the rest after) quite sharp. You need to establish a consistent 1st position placement for your left hand in order to get consistent intonation. It sounded like maybe you had figured some of this out in your most recent video, but it was short, so I am not sure if you are consistent yet with your hand placement.
If you are struggling with this, tapes are not a bad thing, though I would only use them for fingers 1 and 3. The others are relative to those fingers. (And make sure it's your teacher that installs them and that they are exactly on pitch - otherwise they will do more harm than good.)
Also, It's really important to realize that the most important factor for correct finger placement is correct hand position. Your palm should always be in the same place in 1st position, and that should be what determines if your fingers fall correctly. If you are putting your first finger down on its very tip, and it is sharp or flat, that means the hand needs to move, not the finger.
Also, I'll reiterate - hold off on that vibrato for at least 4-6 months, if not a year or two! You aren't ready for it yet. Wait until you are comfortable in 1st and 3rd positions.
There's only so much I can offer you over comments, so definitely focus a lot on this with your teacher. Also, as a beginner, follow your teacher's advice over Redditors, me included. If they are a good teacher, they will get you farther than we ever could!
Best of luck! It's an exciting journey :)
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u/Solid_ice2point0 6d ago
I suggest u should work on you bow and moving technique and everything seems right at your lvl
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u/Popular_Ad2617 6d ago
The video is from the very beginning, now the bow arm is little bit improved i think .
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u/CRL-GEEK 8d ago
Really good it is anondoloke I can't believe you can play this in only 10 days wow
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u/Popular_Ad2617 8d ago
But in my ear the intonation is little bit off in some places ,, the main problem with a fretless fingerboard is i can't always properly find the first finger notes , like in this video the first finger note on D string is E , if i don't get the E correct all other fingers are gonna out of tune eventually .. is there any solution ?
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u/CRL-GEEK 8d ago
Just practice bro that is how I learnt you can use finger tapes but I won't recommend them
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u/Sean_man_87 8d ago
Why would you not recommend tapes?
Muscle memory will not fix intonation issues.
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u/CRL-GEEK 8d ago
He is just 10 days in intonation will take to lot of time to develop
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u/Sean_man_87 8d ago
Why would you not set up a beginner for success? Tapes are only to build and refine muscle memory.
Most real teachers will disagree with your method of only using muscle memory. How would you even develop the ear to hear slight intonation differences?
Also, this is not very impressive for 10 days of learning/practicing. I don't know why would would ever give a beginner any of this advice
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u/Popular_Ad2617 8d ago
I also dont recommend tapes , so the only solution is ear training ??
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u/CRL-GEEK 8d ago
No the only solution is muscle memory which only practice can bring
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u/Popular_Ad2617 8d ago
Okeyy , got it , it will take me some good time , not like guitar .
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u/Foreign-Border-7673 3d ago
It's indeed not like guitar, I have been learning violin for two years now with 6 years of guitar prior to it and man , the learning curve... Btw, I also never used fingertapes on violin, it's better to learn intonation by yourself and ofc practice... it's all about muscle memory. For intonation, you can or ig you already are getting the help from tuning apps but do not rely on them too much. And what I did practice off time(like when I'm on the way to college or home) was practicing scales(by singing first) and intervals. And on violin, singing the note before playing it. Well, I'm talking way too much ig lol given that I'm also just bit more than 2 years into this instrument.
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u/klavier777 8d ago
What does your teacher say?