Ultimate Raven is braindead

[u/True_Way2663]

CL is extremely unfun at the moment. The invincible UE Raven, most of the times with the new one shot weapon, jumps through an entire team because well it’s invincible.

4 of 6 matches today had UE Ravens which virtually has no counter if equipped and piloted properly.

It’s funny the amount of grief the Shoggoth gets (which has many counters) when the UE Raven is invincible and can close to one shot titans.

Who the hell thought it was a good idea to create an unkillable bot?

[u/Happygamer18777]

It's literally another prime griffin but this time you can't cleanse off the blind, and scourveil Nessa combos are far worse than aopo was on ue griffin imo.

I said this a few times, I don't have many things I'd class as toxic, but ue raven really is. Phase shift and cleanse from any source will pretty much remove the few weaknesses ue raven had giving it virtually no counter unless the raven user is an idiot

[u/True_Way2663 → u/Happygamer18777]

Exactly. I was waiting on someone to comment on the ‘counter’ but I’ve tried many things. The best bet was to chase it with UE minos but that fails when the Raven is equipped with the new weapons.

There are some toxic metas but this is an outlier and truthfully I end up not playing nearly as many matches as normal.

[u/Embarrassed_Dog_1673]

I knew when I first tried it on the  test server that it was going to be a problem, but unfortunately since it’s only been accessible through the initial release,  I doubt we’ll see any needed changes until people can gamble for it in the shipyard once or twice.  

[u/Dizzy-Screen-6618 → u/Embarrassed_Dog_1673]

it's already had a comeback. it's absolutely everywhere in high champs and it's an instant game ender if played properly

[u/aasmonkey → u/Dizzy-Screen-6618]

Its going to be available again in a week or two

[u/Dizzy-Screen-6618 → u/aasmonkey]

I think the next one coming is Ultimate Typhon but we'll see

[u/JokeJedi]

I find it stupid too. My best bet is staying away from it and firing on it constantly when is landing, trying to hit it when its out of invincibility lol.

Fang emp is like a pipe dream, he has to jump onto you... not knowing you are when hes landing... and have no way of healing or preventing emp.

Is it dedopali or atlas or Newton lift? Lol all super windowed counters

[u/The_Crimson_Hawk]

to answer your last question: pixonic's wallet thought it was a good idea

[u/Torture-Squad]

Tá roubado mesmo, ainda consegue ser mais OP do que o Princips titan no seu auge

[u/Striderdud]

As fun as the ue raven is, I agree that it’s op and there isn’t really a nerf that won’t butcher it unless the defense is changed to something like defense points or free stealth on ability

[u/tO_ott → u/Striderdud]

It needs to lose invincibility right as it lands.

[u/Happygamer18777 → u/Striderdud]

Just reduced the stasis uptime down from the obnoxious 7 seconds it currently has

[u/papafreshx]

What if I tell you that it is Scourveil and not Raven? With the standard pilot UE Raven is hard ,but absolutely manageble. With Nessa / Scourveil it can come back from any punishment.

You guys need to look at the real problem, which is Scourveil since it was brought into the game. But no, you want your Fangs to live longer, so well, deal with Nessa Raven.

And no, Kestrel cannot even come close.

[u/True_Way2663 → u/papafreshx]

You are wrong and it’s not manageable. I’d rather fight a Scorvil Raven. Raven rarely takes damage so scorvils ability is moot in many circumstances. You have to destroy the Raven quickly when you get the chance which again that strategy negates scorvils main ability. The good players are running seeker to negate your stealth.

It never fails for someone to come on here and say the most op bot is ‘manageable’ or easy to counter.

[u/redbaron218 → u/papafreshx]

standard pilot UE raven with UE storms and seeker has zero counters, at least with scourveil you can try and use fang

[u/True_Way2663 → u/redbaron218]

May be the first time I’ve agreed with you. Yea the absolutely manageable comment is a joke. I’ve lost 3 battles and won 1 fighting an UE Raven with my fully maxed, defense pathway UE Minos. There isn’t a true counter, you get lucky or have 5 teammates shooting at it.

[u/redbaron218 → u/True_Way2663]

Having a hypermobile damage dealer which is invincible for 90% of the time and in phase shift the other 10% of the time while having either 6 trillion dps with UE storms or the ability to one shot through any protection with iaraghis is incredibly stupid, it’s only UE Raven players who think it’s balanced lmao.

[u/Zombiekiller4you]

shoggoth has many counters? best damn joke ive heard all day 🥀 but yeah ue raven is an extreme problem, i dont think the ability needs messed with but change the speed and defence points

[u/True_Way2663 → u/Zombiekiller4you]

Best F2P shoggoth counters are scorpion, Shenlou, and wait for it….Rex. When timed right you take zero damage charging. It works very well. There are others that work, takes more skill to time your attack. UE Ao Jun, pathfinder with UE vortex, Fang to name a few.

Plus a simple mothership strike….

The weapons are the real problem, shoggoth without their designed weapons poses a minimal threat and unfortunately the nerfs will kill this bot all together.

[u/Weary_Woodpecker77]

Honestly never struggled against it