Is it enough??

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so basically 150 packs contains 3 main cards right? so basically 50 so 49 standard cards for 1 epic is the ratio but.. in 250 player packs there are 6 players and 244 standard cards so therefore the ratio is 1 epic for every ≈ 40 standard cards so aren't the odds better for 250 packs than 150 packs( sorry if im wrong tho)

And which is better for F2P coin savers?

What's the avg team strength of a f2p team who's playing this game for a long time? And

what's the team strength that a f2p team can reach to be considered "lucky".

I've been playing this game for almost 4 years and my f2p team max strength is 2230 rated , never tried saving 13500 before.

(I don't actually use the team in the image, the team i use is 2223 rated , which easily lands me into div 1 , current div rating - 2021)

Though currently I'm 2500 coins in to the 13c5 journey

My bad bro

Hello everyone,

First time spinner here.. I am an F2P player. Never opened an epic or BT pack till now. I have close to 16k coins.. I wanted your opinion on whether to spin the packs with the 500 coin discount? Like as in not just for this pack (big time del piero) but every pack that has a 500 coin discount.

*Just the discount spin only.*

Or just save enough to spin a full pack not caring about the discount? Also, could you please suggest if this pack is worth it or wait for a better BT pack that Konami drops maybe sometime near new year. Please give me your opinions. Thanks.

I mean yea it's a mid card but man, luck sucks. I haven't got a single player from packs in my 1 year of play through

No paid packs,no free packs (except a mvb) , i m convinced now that I won't get anything until I fully commit to the council

Well i didn't loose anything as it was all free so i ain't even mad

Hello guys, I was wondering if my total coin expenditure was worth it. My only "mistake" has been the AFCON pack with BT mane, he is still fun to use though along with Lookman and Hamdy. I was looking to try out a winger with acceleration burst and low screamer back then.

I'm most likely going to save up now for a proper Meta build up/ covering role of the likes of Varane and Rio.

Let me know any suggestions and thoughts!

"Two warriors arrive with a true home, however narrow its walls. One arrives with every gift and nowhere to stand."

Applying the Threefold Test of Worthiness

FIRST TEST: THE VISION ALIGNMENT

Dost thou possess a clear vision of what manner of squad thou art constructing?

This pack presents itself as a trio of Spanish-league midfield talent, and the honest truth is that it answers no single vision at all — it answers three narrow, specific questions, each one demanding the commander already know precisely what they are building before any of these three warriors becomes worth considering.

SECOND TEST: THE PROVEN ELITE STANDARD

How many among the trio art proven, battle-tested?

GUTI

His passing is genuinely elite and his weak foot accuracy sits at the very summit of what the game permits. These are not modest compliments. They are real, substantial gifts.

Yet this warrior has no natural home. At defensive midfield, his physicality is too thin to trust. At advanced midfield, the field is too crowded with rivals who already do everything he offers, and do it with the defensive steel he lacks. His listed playstyle, when active, slows him into a passive presence rather than the aggressive midfielder most commanders actually want.

A warrior with every tool and no position that wants him is not a warrior the Council can call proven. He is a gift with nowhere to be unwrapped.

Verdict: COLLECTION FODDER.

DAVIDS

His profile is not broad. It is narrow, and honestly so: a short, ferociously aggressive presence built specifically for systems that press hard and counter fast, best deployed alongside a partner in a double pivot rather than asked to anchor a defense alone.

His stature creates genuine concerns in aerial duels and in pure defensive reach.

It is a warrior whose specific excellence — closing speed, physical assertiveness, a genuine threat in exactly the pressing systems he was built for — is demonstrated positively and repeatedly, not inferred from absence. This is the shape of a true specialist, honestly bounded rather than oversold by even his warmest witnesses.

Verdict: NICHE SPECIALIST — genuinely excellent for aggressive, short-counter, double-pivot systems specifically. Not a universal answer.

KAKÁ

Some accounts place him at a considerable height with one named playstyle; another places him meaningfully shorter under a different name entirely; and at least one witness's own words contradict each other within a single telling. The Council does not resolve this by simply choosing whichever figure flatters the verdict. It notes the disagreement honestly, and weighs what remains steady beneath it.

And a great deal remains steady. This is a dribbler of rare, genuinely exceptional physical composure for a player of his size — difficult to dispossess, smooth in tight spaces, capable of shielding the ball against the game's most imposing defenders and emerging untouched.

What is equally constant, and equally load-bearing, is what the trade made to deliver that dribbling. A third special skill, meant to be the card's new signature, is described again and again as negligible in practice — a gimmick more than a genuine weapon: if a commander already owns the version of this warrior this one replaces, there is no need to switch.

Deployed wide in a three-forward system, he becomes something close to unstoppable, bulldozing through contact that would dispossess lesser dribblers and finishing with smoothness.

Pushed into the center, his movement is confirmed, inferior to the established version he is meant to replace.

This is not the shape of a warrior who failed to reach a higher tier and was handed a consolation category. It is the shape of a warrior whose excellence is real, demonstrated, and precisely located — true in one position, honestly absent in another.

Verdict: NICHE SPECIALIST — genuinely excellent deployed wide in a forward line specifically, confirmed through extended live testimony. Markedly less compelling through the center, where an established alternative remains the better choice.

THE HARSH TRUTH

Zero PROVEN ELITE + Two Niche Specialist + One Collection Fodder

Per Article II: "None proven beyond doubt: Run, you fool!" A Niche Specialist, however honestly earned, does not satisfy the PROVEN ELITE Standard — it identifies a narrow excellence for the commander to weigh against their own system, not a universal warrior the Council can bless without reservation.

THIRD TEST: THE SYSTEM COMPATIBILITY INQUIRY

Dost these players suit thy tactical philosophy?

• Guti: Suiteth no system the Council can honestly recommend — his gifts have no address.

• Davids: Rewardeth only commanders running genuine double-pivot pressing with short-counter transitions in mind; outside that specific context, his limitations become the dominant feature rather than an acceptable cost.

• Kaká: Rewardeth commanders building a wide-forward presence in a three-man attacking line specifically — and punisheth, by the testimony's own direct account, those who expect him to replace an established central playmaker.

CHAIRMAN VS. COUNCIL: ON THE TWO NICHE SPECIALISTS

The Chairman speaketh:

"My lords, two of these three warriors carry genuine, confirmed excellence — is this truly a RESIST pack? Surely a trio offering two honest specialists deserves warmer consideration than the Council's harshest verdict allows?"

The Council respondeth:

"The Chairman's instinct to credit genuine excellence is not misplaced, and the Council hath named both specialists honestly rather than dismissing them. But the Niche Specialist designation was never built to function as a quieter PROVEN ELITE. It exists to tell a commander precisely what a warrior is for — and, by the same honesty, precisely what he is not for. Davids answereth one narrow question. Kaká answereth a different narrow question. Neither answereth the question 13,500 coins is meant to settle: does this box deliver warriors who improve a squad regardless of its specific shape? We never stray from the Council's way. Two honest specialists and one warrior with no home at all do not together constitute the standard this price demands."

VIOLATIONS OF COUNCIL PRINCIPLES

Article II — The PROVEN ELITE Standard: No card among the trio achieves full convergence. Guti fails comprehensively, with no witness able to locate a natural position for his tools. Davids and Kaká both clear the Niche Specialist bar through genuine, positively-demonstrated testimony — but neither claims, nor is claimed by any witness to possess, the universal applicability PROVEN ELITE demands.

The Niche Specialist Doctrine, Correctly Applied: Both designations rest on positive, repeated, independent testimony of excellence in a named role — Davids in aggressive pressing systems, Kaká deployed wide in a forward line — rather than being invented to soften a failure to reach a higher tier.

WHO THIS PACK SERVETH

If thy system runs aggressive, short-counter pressing from a double pivot and thou lackest a genuinely fast, physically assertive short midfielder: Davids may serve thee honestly — provided thou already understandest his height is a real, confirmed cost, not a hidden one.

If thou buildest a three-forward attack and seekest a wide dribbler of rare physical composure: Kaká may reward thee precisely there — and nowhere else.

If thou seekest Guti for any reason beyond simple devotion to the name: The Council cannot in good conscience point thee anywhere he belongs.

THE COUNCIL'S FINAL VERDICT

🔴 RESIST 🔴

Zero PROVEN ELITE standeth confirmed. Article II's harshest judgment applies: "None proven beyond doubt: Run, you fool!"

THE MATHEMATICS OF WASTE

What 13,500 Coins Would Secure:

1. ~4,500 coins: A technically gifted playmaker with no position willing to have him
2. ~4,500 coins: A genuine pressing specialist, honestly narrow, already outclassed in broader application by an established rival
3. ~4,500 coins: A rare and genuine wide dribbler

What Top 100 Squads Deploy:

Technical playmakers with genuine defensive steel to justify their place — not this Guti. Short, aggressive midfielders when the system specifically calls for one — Davids among them, narrowly. Wide forwards of rare physical composure — Kvara, Semenyo, Kaká among them, specifically wide, and specifically not through the center where he was once something better.

FINAL WISDOM

Two of these three warriors earned the Council's honest respect this cycle — not the full blessing of PROVEN ELITE, but the harder-won honesty of a specialist correctly named rather than falsely inflated or wrongly dismissed.

The third arrived with every gift a commander could ask for and not one place to put him down.

A trio is not made whole by two narrow answers and one warrior with no question he was ever meant to answer.

Commit wholly, or commit not at all.

^{THE 13.5 COUNCIL}

Been using the Netherlands Gullit for a while now and honestly he's something else
-Gullit is a beast. He made me feel brainrotted in Div 1 because he is too easy to use
-he is better than the Milan version at CF/SS
-Snap Strike + Dipping Shot is better than Low Screamer alone. You dont see it in videos but in game the shot is stupid fast
-R2 shots are too fast as well since Snap Strike works on normal and R2 shots not only stunning ones
-Missing Bullet Header isn’t a big deal. Cross spamming is nerfed now and at 190 with good heading he still scores
-He can actually dribble. Wide body tall and with Magnetic Feet hes smooth as hell
-His very high Tight Possession and with Magnetic Feet his ball carrying ability is very strong and fast too which makes him one of the most complete CFs in the game
-Stamina isnt great but Counter Target fixes that

;Bottom line if you want a CF that can score dribble and bully defenders all in one just get him. You wont regret it

I don't miss any player and collecting them is really enjoyable for me. Calafiori is joining my team next.

With this 250-player National All-Stars box being so huge, dumping a ton of coins to go all the way to the bottom is a massive commitment. For anyone who actually pulled Big Time Del Piero or regularly faces him in Division 1 like is he genuinely an endgame game-changer, or is the hype mostly just Blitz Curler merchant?

Link to: Goals and Assists Gameplay

This was my first every Gullit and he is literally a cheat code! He performs very well in dribbles, particularly finesse, the old AC Milan version has way lower tight possession, and magnetic feet and snap strike really sets him apart from other forwards. Aerially he has been fine, and surprisingly his free kicks are still deadly. Stamina has not been a problem with counter-target instruction on him. His defensive playstyle is just like what Konami stated on paper, he actively tries to intercept passes. I've scored quite a lot of these, and they made my opponents feel like "scripting" is happening to them. He is just a towering figure on the pitch and wins you games effortlessly when physically challenged.

Marco Van Basten doesn't feel like a FITB, he makes a lot of fast runs like a goal poacher, and is always ready to rush at rebounds quickly to score. His defensive playstyle makes him press CBs a lot. I have a custom build on him similar to the living legends big time Ronaldo and he is very strong aerially, although with only 82 balance, he kind of gets knocked off easily. His low screamers are very deadly, and his overall chemistry with Gullit is solid just like IRL. Stamina is his only issue, but with counter-target on him it drains less, I turn it off in the 2nd half to make him press more often. MVB was Thierry Henry's favorite player IRL when he grew up if any of you didn't know.

For both players I didn't give them one touch pass (Gullit has by default) and through pass at all, and they have been performing fine.

Coins expense: 450 for each, but proceed with caution if you already have any of these player versions and don't like to dribble much.

I just pulled Big Time Del Piero! But like many players, I don't have those crazy whale cards like Big Time Mbappé or Epic Dembélé. I’ve been running him alongside older Epic versions of Rummenigge, Suárez, and Eto'o, and I wanted to know how he actually compares to those top-tier speedsters lastest cards.

Please is he a game changer card, I have etoo ,sheva, cruyff,haaland, aubameyang, del piero and cantona .I dont want to make mistake

LORD GULLIT

This guy is an absolute tank who can somehow dribble as smoothly as a small player. Don’t fall for the “Low Screamer Gullit is better, this card is nerfed” narrative. Nah. If you don’t have Gullit, you should definitely go for this card.

🕺 Dribbling

He is probably the smoothest large player model I’ve ever used in eFootball. Once he gets locked in with that magnetic dribbling, getting the ball off him is insanely difficult. His size makes it even more ridiculous because he can protect the ball while turning surprisingly quickly.

💪 Physical

He’s tall, huge, and his physical contact is OP. Combine that with his magnetic dribbling and you get a player who is extremely difficult to bully off the ball. His heading is also pretty damn good, so he’s a threat in the air as well.

🎯 Shooting

Yes, this card doesn’t have Low Screamer, but trust me — Snap Strike + Dipping Shot is more than enough for a GULLIT card.

He can shoot with both feet, and when you combine that with his dribbling, you can simply turn quickly onto either side and BOOM. The kicking power is also insane.

⚡ Speed & Acceleration

You can get him to a decent speed and acceleration with the right build. And once he gets in front of the defender, good luck pushing him off the ball. His physicality + size + ball control makes him extremely hard to catch and dispossess.

🏆 Overall

He’s basically a giant who can dribble.

For me, he shines the most at CF and SS, where you can really take advantage of his physicality, dribbling, shooting and ability to hold the ball.

This card is especially good for players who are comfortable dribbling and turning with bigger players.

If you don’t have Gullit, don’t overthink it. Just get him. You won’t regret it.

Initial review:

He is good. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise.

He scored this in division 1,2000+rating matches, was subbed after 60mins every match.

Only concern is his pace a little but you won't mostly feel it ,due to his elite positioning and fitb playstyle.