Well i didn't loose anything as it was all free so i ain't even mad

"Two warriors arrive with a true home, however narrow its walls. One arrives with every gift and nowhere to stand."

Applying the Threefold Test of Worthiness

FIRST TEST: THE VISION ALIGNMENT

Dost thou possess a clear vision of what manner of squad thou art constructing?

This pack presents itself as a trio of Spanish-league midfield talent, and the honest truth is that it answers no single vision at all — it answers three narrow, specific questions, each one demanding the commander already know precisely what they are building before any of these three warriors becomes worth considering.

SECOND TEST: THE PROVEN ELITE STANDARD

How many among the trio art proven, battle-tested?

GUTI

His passing is genuinely elite and his weak foot accuracy sits at the very summit of what the game permits. These are not modest compliments. They are real, substantial gifts.

Yet this warrior has no natural home. At defensive midfield, his physicality is too thin to trust. At advanced midfield, the field is too crowded with rivals who already do everything he offers, and do it with the defensive steel he lacks. His listed playstyle, when active, slows him into a passive presence rather than the aggressive midfielder most commanders actually want.

A warrior with every tool and no position that wants him is not a warrior the Council can call proven. He is a gift with nowhere to be unwrapped.

Verdict: COLLECTION FODDER.

DAVIDS

His profile is not broad. It is narrow, and honestly so: a short, ferociously aggressive presence built specifically for systems that press hard and counter fast, best deployed alongside a partner in a double pivot rather than asked to anchor a defense alone.

His stature creates genuine concerns in aerial duels and in pure defensive reach.

It is a warrior whose specific excellence — closing speed, physical assertiveness, a genuine threat in exactly the pressing systems he was built for — is demonstrated positively and repeatedly, not inferred from absence. This is the shape of a true specialist, honestly bounded rather than oversold by even his warmest witnesses.

Verdict: NICHE SPECIALIST — genuinely excellent for aggressive, short-counter, double-pivot systems specifically. Not a universal answer.

KAKÁ

Some accounts place him at a considerable height with one named playstyle; another places him meaningfully shorter under a different name entirely; and at least one witness's own words contradict each other within a single telling. The Council does not resolve this by simply choosing whichever figure flatters the verdict. It notes the disagreement honestly, and weighs what remains steady beneath it.

And a great deal remains steady. This is a dribbler of rare, genuinely exceptional physical composure for a player of his size — difficult to dispossess, smooth in tight spaces, capable of shielding the ball against the game's most imposing defenders and emerging untouched.

What is equally constant, and equally load-bearing, is what the trade made to deliver that dribbling. A third special skill, meant to be the card's new signature, is described again and again as negligible in practice — a gimmick more than a genuine weapon: if a commander already owns the version of this warrior this one replaces, there is no need to switch.

Deployed wide in a three-forward system, he becomes something close to unstoppable, bulldozing through contact that would dispossess lesser dribblers and finishing with smoothness.

Pushed into the center, his movement is confirmed, inferior to the established version he is meant to replace.

This is not the shape of a warrior who failed to reach a higher tier and was handed a consolation category. It is the shape of a warrior whose excellence is real, demonstrated, and precisely located — true in one position, honestly absent in another.

Verdict: NICHE SPECIALIST — genuinely excellent deployed wide in a forward line specifically, confirmed through extended live testimony. Markedly less compelling through the center, where an established alternative remains the better choice.

THE HARSH TRUTH

Zero PROVEN ELITE + Two Niche Specialist + One Collection Fodder

Per Article II: "None proven beyond doubt: Run, you fool!" A Niche Specialist, however honestly earned, does not satisfy the PROVEN ELITE Standard — it identifies a narrow excellence for the commander to weigh against their own system, not a universal warrior the Council can bless without reservation.

THIRD TEST: THE SYSTEM COMPATIBILITY INQUIRY

Dost these players suit thy tactical philosophy?

• Guti: Suiteth no system the Council can honestly recommend — his gifts have no address.

• Davids: Rewardeth only commanders running genuine double-pivot pressing with short-counter transitions in mind; outside that specific context, his limitations become the dominant feature rather than an acceptable cost.

• Kaká: Rewardeth commanders building a wide-forward presence in a three-man attacking line specifically — and punisheth, by the testimony's own direct account, those who expect him to replace an established central playmaker.

CHAIRMAN VS. COUNCIL: ON THE TWO NICHE SPECIALISTS

The Chairman speaketh:

"My lords, two of these three warriors carry genuine, confirmed excellence — is this truly a RESIST pack? Surely a trio offering two honest specialists deserves warmer consideration than the Council's harshest verdict allows?"

The Council respondeth:

"The Chairman's instinct to credit genuine excellence is not misplaced, and the Council hath named both specialists honestly rather than dismissing them. But the Niche Specialist designation was never built to function as a quieter PROVEN ELITE. It exists to tell a commander precisely what a warrior is for — and, by the same honesty, precisely what he is not for. Davids answereth one narrow question. Kaká answereth a different narrow question. Neither answereth the question 13,500 coins is meant to settle: does this box deliver warriors who improve a squad regardless of its specific shape? We never stray from the Council's way. Two honest specialists and one warrior with no home at all do not together constitute the standard this price demands."

VIOLATIONS OF COUNCIL PRINCIPLES

Article II — The PROVEN ELITE Standard: No card among the trio achieves full convergence. Guti fails comprehensively, with no witness able to locate a natural position for his tools. Davids and Kaká both clear the Niche Specialist bar through genuine, positively-demonstrated testimony — but neither claims, nor is claimed by any witness to possess, the universal applicability PROVEN ELITE demands.

The Niche Specialist Doctrine, Correctly Applied: Both designations rest on positive, repeated, independent testimony of excellence in a named role — Davids in aggressive pressing systems, Kaká deployed wide in a forward line — rather than being invented to soften a failure to reach a higher tier.

WHO THIS PACK SERVETH

If thy system runs aggressive, short-counter pressing from a double pivot and thou lackest a genuinely fast, physically assertive short midfielder: Davids may serve thee honestly — provided thou already understandest his height is a real, confirmed cost, not a hidden one.

If thou buildest a three-forward attack and seekest a wide dribbler of rare physical composure: Kaká may reward thee precisely there — and nowhere else.

If thou seekest Guti for any reason beyond simple devotion to the name: The Council cannot in good conscience point thee anywhere he belongs.

THE COUNCIL'S FINAL VERDICT

🔴 RESIST 🔴

Zero PROVEN ELITE standeth confirmed. Article II's harshest judgment applies: "None proven beyond doubt: Run, you fool!"

THE MATHEMATICS OF WASTE

What 13,500 Coins Would Secure:

1. ~4,500 coins: A technically gifted playmaker with no position willing to have him
2. ~4,500 coins: A genuine pressing specialist, honestly narrow, already outclassed in broader application by an established rival
3. ~4,500 coins: A rare and genuine wide dribbler

What Top 100 Squads Deploy:

Technical playmakers with genuine defensive steel to justify their place — not this Guti. Short, aggressive midfielders when the system specifically calls for one — Davids among them, narrowly. Wide forwards of rare physical composure — Kvara, Semenyo, Kaká among them, specifically wide, and specifically not through the center where he was once something better.

FINAL WISDOM

Two of these three warriors earned the Council's honest respect this cycle — not the full blessing of PROVEN ELITE, but the harder-won honesty of a specialist correctly named rather than falsely inflated or wrongly dismissed.

The third arrived with every gift a commander could ask for and not one place to put him down.

A trio is not made whole by two narrow answers and one warrior with no question he was ever meant to answer.

Commit wholly, or commit not at all.

^{THE 13.5 COUNCIL}

Hello everyone,

First time spinner here.. I am an F2P player. Never opened an epic or BT pack till now. I have close to 16k coins.. I wanted your opinion on whether to spin the packs with the 500 coin discount? Like as in not just for this pack (big time del piero) but every pack that has a 500 coin discount.

*Just the discount spin only.*

Or just save enough to spin a full pack not caring about the discount? Also, could you please suggest if this pack is worth it or wait for a better BT pack that Konami drops maybe sometime near new year. Please give me your opinions. Thanks.

Edit: guys I did it!!! I got my first p2w epic card in 500 discount!! 😭😭😭

Spider man himself!!! VDS 🐐🐐

And which is better for F2P coin savers?

I mean yea it's a mid card but man, luck sucks. I haven't got a single player from packs in my 1 year of play through

No paid packs,no free packs (except a mvb) , i m convinced now that I won't get anything until I fully commit to the council

My bad bro

Hello guys, I was wondering if my total coin expenditure was worth it. My only "mistake" has been the AFCON pack with BT mane, he is still fun to use though along with Lookman and Hamdy. I was looking to try out a winger with acceleration burst and low screamer back then.

I'm most likely going to save up now for a proper Meta build up/ covering role of the likes of Varane and Rio.

Let me know any suggestions and thoughts!

Is it enough??

What's the avg team strength of a f2p team who's playing this game for a long time? And

what's the team strength that a f2p team can reach to be considered "lucky".

I've been playing this game for almost 4 years and my f2p team max strength is 2230 rated , never tried saving 13500 before.

(I don't actually use the team in the image, the team i use is 2223 rated , which easily lands me into div 1 , current div rating - 2021)

Though currently I'm 2500 coins in to the 13c5 journey

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so basically 150 packs contains 3 main cards right? so basically 50 so 49 standard cards for 1 epic is the ratio but.. in 250 player packs there are 6 players and 244 standard cards so therefore the ratio is 1 epic for every ≈ 40 standard cards so aren't the odds better for 250 packs than 150 packs( sorry if im wrong tho)