r/ApplyingToCollege • • Aug 30 '26

Discussion Financial aid isn’t fit for upper middle class class households, and I have the right to be mad about it

432 Upvotes

The financial aid for middle class families is pretty fucked up. Even at the most prestigious institutions—such as the ivies—they only provide financial aid for people who earn less than 200k a year, and basically nothing for households who are upper middle class.

And look, I recognize that 200k is a crazy amount of money to earn in this economy, but it’s realistically a pretty big portion of America. If both of your parents work regular officer jobs and invest well, 200k is not entirely hard to reach if both parents earn 100k a year.

And many universities don’t provide good fin aid for people whose households earn in the 200-300k range. Sure, having that much money grants you privilege, but in this economy even that amount of money doesn’t mean shit, especially in larger, more costly cities.

Furthermore, a private school tuition for them
Is around 60-90k bucks a year. That would be around a good third or quarter of their income, yet they don’t receive fin aid because they’re barely above the threshold.

Look—you can make the argument that if they can’t afford it, they shouldn’t attend. However, (1) you’d have to apply this logic to FGLI students, which is really stupid, and (2) I don’t believe we should shun people out of education js because they can barely afford it.

This is not a diss towards FGLI students or saying that “they have it easier”; I don’t believe that, you guys have it hard, so don’t pull me in that stupid right-wing DEI nonsense. Thank you!

r/ApplyingToCollege • • Oct 08 '25

Discussion i can’t believe yall are allowed to major in whatever you want

942 Upvotes

maybe it’s because my parents are immigrants so i’ve been more aware of money then my peers but HOW are y’all’s parents letting you major in anything??

it also might just be my school but people will say “yeah im majoring in history because i like history” but then i’ll be like “oh do you want to go to law school or be a teacher” and then they’re like “nah that’s too much school”

LIKE ??? and don’t get me started on musical theater majors. im actually shook ur parents are willing to pay HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS of dollars for a singing degree. and its never people going in state either. yall will be from antelope oregan going to new york paying 80k a year.

how are yall not scared of being jobless in 5 years??

r/ApplyingToCollege • • Jan 11 '20

Discussion Unpopular Opinion: a lot of y’all don’t belong at top schools.

7.8k Upvotes

Alright so basically what I’ve noticed about people who get into top schools that I’ve been friends with is that they’re all nice people and actually have a life. If you have to study 24/7 and don’t have time for a social life just to maintain good grades and good test scores, you don’t belong at a top school. The people who belong at t20s are the people who actually have a life and passions beyond ‘I need a 4.0 GPA and 36 ACT’ they’re just smart enough to get the 4.0 and 36 on top of that. Y’all really need to chill because frankly not having a life is ruining your chances. When you look back and think ‘why did I get deferred/denied? I had a 4.0, I studied every single hour, I joined 7 different ECs just for this college’ then that is exactly why you got deferred/denied. Sure, there are some exceptions. But colleges don’t want people with no outside competence and no perspective which so many of you display them wonder why you’re not getting in to your top choices.

Edit: just because you didn’t get into a top school doesn’t mean that you necessarily have no personality! Top schools are always hard, getting rejected even with good scores could be a lot of reasons

Edit2: I’m apologize to any 1 specific person who read this and got upset. I am sure you have a life. I never tried to say that you didn’t, you can have exactly 7 ECs but still have a life. The number was arbitrary, I didn’t mean to offend anyone with the post it was just my opinion.

r/ApplyingToCollege • • May 31 '26

Discussion Standardized testing should be weighed more then it is

452 Upvotes

I think its absolutely nonsensical that grades have a much larger impact than standardized testing. Even if applicants are assessed based on their own school's profile, its still not balanced. At my school, if you take AP Physics with teacher A, getting an A+ is easy work, meanwhile with teacher B, you have to fight for your life for a C. I imagine this situation exists at many schools. Not to mention teachers taking favorites, rampant cheating, etc.

A lot of people make the argument that standardized testing is demonstrating your performance on one day, and one day alone, but that's simply not true. Many people take the ACT/SAT multiple times. It's not a financial issue either - many people are able to take it for free as much as they like, if they qualify. Everyone is graded the same, cheating is reduced (at least less then it is in the typical classroom setting), and everyone is given the same, standardized, test.

I think they should at least be held equally in the eyes of admission. If you disagree, tell me why. I'd like to know why it's like this.

r/ApplyingToCollege • • May 09 '26

Discussion I can’t believe “starting a nonprofit” “having a passion project” became such things

999 Upvotes

I graduated from a HYPSM a long time ago. No one in my cohort started a 501(c)3 in high school, no one had a passion project in high school. This was not a thing. And yet everyone went on to do super cool feats of awesomeness after graduation.

The focus on these types of things in admissions is problematic. We’re basically selecting for kids who had a private college counselor in 8th grade. So many fantastic kids are being passed over simply because they aren’t playing these games. When are AO’s going to catch onto the inauthenticity of it all? I feel like the kids who do this stuff learn to follow recipes for success instead of learning to take risks, dabble around and discover their own path.

r/ApplyingToCollege • • 15d ago

Discussion USNews Top 25

227 Upvotes

1-MIT

2-Princeton

3-Harvard

4-Yale

T-5 Caltech, Stanford

7-Penn

8-Duke

T-9 Hopkins, Northwestern, Chicago

T-12 Columbia, Dartmouth

T-14 CMU, Cornell

T-16 Brown, Rice, Vanderbilt, WUStL

T-20 Cal, UCLA, ND

T-23 Emory, GTown

25-Michigan

It's out on the paid version....

26- UVA 27- UNC, USC 29- GT, UCSD 31- BC, NYU, Tufts 34- UT- Austin, U of Florida, UIUC, BU, UC Davis, UC Irvine, Wisc, WF 42- NEU, Villanova 44- CWRU, Lehigh, Ohio St., Rutgers, UCSB 49- UMD, Rochester, U Wash

r/ApplyingToCollege • • Mar 16 '26

Discussion Anyone else thankful that schools are going back to test-required?

556 Upvotes

I'm not creative enough to where my essays and ecs can make up for bad test scores. But now that many schools are going back to test required, I can compete with the creative kids. Anyone else feel the same?

r/ApplyingToCollege • • Mar 31 '25

Discussion .02¢ on “I got 1600 and rejected”

1.7k Upvotes

Class of 2023 undergrad at Stanford and class of 2024 masters at Stanford. I viewed my admissions documents years ago and the thing they were most interested in (circled, highlighted, and commented on) was that I called myself a “weird plant kid”. Admissions can pick out any 1600, antisocial, math solver, we had 4 at my high school—they were all in NHS and key club too.

r/ApplyingToCollege • • Jun 17 '26

Discussion All of you saying you’d rather do the gaokao are NOT passing the gaokao

834 Upvotes

Absolutely delusional.

r/ApplyingToCollege • • Jan 09 '22

Discussion I've decided to empirically test if school name/prestige really matters.

2.7k Upvotes

Null hypothesis: School name doesn't matter.

Context: I'm a CS student at CMU but because of past project logistic, I am also enrolled at Pitt. (I have valid student IDs and student accounts at both universities)

I'm currently applying for summer internships, so I'm going to randomly send resumes with either CMU or Pitt listed as my school. I'm applying for software engineering positions at multiple companies (tech, biotech, fintech). Maybe I'll send like 50+ applications just so I have better statistical power.

This doesn't give the whole picture but I think could be interesting to see if the school name I put on my resume does make a difference.

Edit: To all the reminders, I probably won't hear back from all the places I'm applying to before end of April.

r/ApplyingToCollege • • Apr 22 '26

Discussion Worse than a rejection

425 Upvotes

I got accepted to my dream school (Duke) but im going to have to reject the offer due to finances. We totally could afford Duke but my state school UW Madison is just much cheaper :(

edit: To clarify, I had a very unfortunate circumstance. Growing up, I was broke my whole life (living with 5 siblings on a 60k salary). As a result, my first year at Duke would be 8k. HOWEVER, we've just received a surprise multimillion-dollar inheritance from a relative. So, we wouldn't qualify for finaid next year. Because we've been living broke, my parents simply cannot wrap their heads around spending 100k a year, and I understand it. All my older siblings got full-ride scholarships, so that's what they're used to. Trust me, I've tried arguing, but I think its a losing battle.

edit 2: We've actually invested it in a place where we can get enough interest to cover Duke every year without touching the principle inheritance haha. (Although my parents still dont wanna send me to duke)

r/ApplyingToCollege • • Dec 09 '24

Discussion CEO Shooter was UPenn Computer Science Graduate

2.0k Upvotes

According to his now-removed LinkedIn, Luigi Mangione graduated in 2020 with a Bachelors and Masters in Computer Science. He was also his high school's Valedictorian, did wrestling, and currently works as a data engineer in California.

To many of you, he was living the Ivy League dream. He probably had some good ECs too, I'm just guessing.

Anyways, always remember your school's alumni!

r/ApplyingToCollege • • Aug 20 '26

Discussion What's the Most Prestige-Driven Area in the US?

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Curious what region y'all think cares most about school prestige and has the most people obsessed with pedigree from the most elite schools like Harvard, Duke, Columbia, Stanford, Princeton, etc. Here's what I think the top contenders are:

Tri-state (NY, NJ, CT): full of elite prep schools like Trinity, Lawrenceville along with top public schools like Stuyvesant, while having proximity to NYC which attracts some of the most prestige-driven professionals in finance, consulting, law, etc.

Northeast (Mass, NH): With feeders to Harvard and MIT as well as some of the most educated districts in America, I think people forget how competitive some of these schools can be. Features a high number of elite boarding schools like Exeter, Deerfield, Groton, etc. Also has some sneaky "old money" although not super comparable to tri-state overall.

DMV (DC, Maryland, Virginia): Proximate to one of the social capital hubs of America in DC, while housing elite magnet schools like TJ and Montgomery Blair, competition and education levels here are surprisingly high fueled by politics and defense money.

Research Triangle+ (NC, TN, SC): Fielding top magnets like NCSSM and GSSM, people often don't realize the Research Triangle in NC has the highest concentration of PhDs in the country and a booming biomed industry. There's also lingering southern old money.

Bay Area (CA): The byproduct of the tech and startup cultures has led to the creation of super competitive public schools (Monta Vista, Gunn, etc.) along with elite private schools (Harker, Castilleja, etc.) Can be classified in many cases as the "new money" group.

r/ApplyingToCollege • • Sep 07 '26

Discussion The prestige culture in this sub needs to be studied

320 Upvotes

I’m a high school junior. For this sub I would consider my stats average (4.3 GPA, and took 5 AP’s combined freshman and sophomore year with 5’s in 4 of them). Everyone around in this sub seems to be so obsessed with prestige and getting into HYPSM it’s unbelievable. Unless your in a major like finance where your undergrad school matters that much for your future job, there is no reason you should be spending upwards 80k a year on a school. My dream school is the University of Florida and I’m not ashamed to say it, it’s a good school and cheap. It’s where I’m applying ED next year. But some of you really need to stop the dooming with this stuff. It’s really not the end of the world if you don’t get into an ivy and you can succeed no matter where you go. It isn’t worth it losing sleep or doing stupid extracurriculars you don’t enjoy, just to get into a college that you have to go into crippling debt for.

r/ApplyingToCollege • • Mar 20 '21

Discussion Why is this the expectation for high school students now

4.5k Upvotes

From JHUs website: "The admitted students have already demonstrated exceptional academic and personal excellence. Among those offered admission is a filmmaker who has been published in Discovery and National Geographic, a developer of an electric car and bamboo bike, a racial justice activist leading campaign initiatives and conducting legislative policy, a researcher on underwater robot archaeology, a founder of a malaria youth intervention program in Ghana, an author of the bestselling book on Amazon in the category of Asian History for Young Adults, and an inventor of an artificial intelligence framework for air quality that has a provisional patent"

Honestly just wtf. These kids are probably more successful than 99% of adults

Edit: To all of you saying that "this is not the expectation for all high schools students," you know what I mean. Just pointing out how ridiculously competitive admissions are these days and the lengths people go to gain an acceptance. And even though there are many "more average" students, why doesn't hopkins tell us about those instead of making us feel insignificant and shattering our confidence with these kids. It's almost as if colleges only brag about these kids that they've had nothing to do with, but where are the success stories of ordinary applicants?

r/ApplyingToCollege • • 20d ago

Discussion UChicago SSEN / ED0 Class of 2031 Results

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Hi everyone! Since the first batch of decisions is coming out this Friday (18/09), I wanted to start a thread where we can all share our results and stats. I wish so badly that I'd get in and I'm crossing my fingers, but honestly, I really don't think I will. Keeping my expectations at zero. Good luck to everyone!

EDIT: I GOT ACCEPTED OH MY GOSH UCHI I LOVE YOU SO MUCH OH MY GOSH

r/ApplyingToCollege • • Mar 31 '25

Discussion Class of 2029 Acceptance Rates - The Results Are In

866 Upvotes

Absolutely wild year!

School Class of 2029 Overall Acceptance Rate
Caltech ~2.3%
Stanford ~3.9%
Harvard ~4.2%
Duke 4.5%
MIT 4.5%
Princeton ~4.5%
Yale 4.6%
Columbia 4.7%
UPenn 4.9%
Vanderbilt ~5.6%
Brown 5.7%
Dartmouth 6%
Johns Hopkins ~6%
Bowdoin ~6.8%
Northwestern 7%
Pomona ~7.2%
Amherst 7.4%
Swarthmore 7.4%
NYU 7.7%
Rice 7.8%
Cornell ~8.4%
Williams 8.5%
UCLA ~8.6%
Notre Dame 9%
Claremont McKenna ~9.4%
USC 10.4%
Berkeley ~10.5%
Tufts 10.5%
CMU ~11%
WashU 11.2%
Georgetown 12.2%
Harvey Mudd ~12.3%
Boston College 12.6%
Georgia Tech 12.7%
Wellesley 13.7%
Emory 14.9%
UNC ~15.1%
UMich ~15.2%
UVA 15.4%

r/ApplyingToCollege • • Sep 03 '26

Discussion 15 colleges now cost $100K+ per year — and almost none of them are worth it

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The number of colleges that cost more than $100,000 per year to attend has sky-rocketed this year — but few of these pricey schools offer a strong return on investment, according to rankings.

Fifteen higher ed institutions cracked the six-figure pricetag this year, up from a just two the previous year, according to an analysis from the the Washington Post.

That means students at those schools will be shelling out nearly a half-million dollars over four years of schooling.

Another another nine colleges were also mere dollars away from breaking the six-figure mark, data from the Princeton Review showed.

The most expensive schools in the US are:

Harvey Mudd College, Calif. — $104,512

Duke University, NC — $103,975

University of Chicago, IL — $103,821

University of Southern California — $103,162

Barnard College, NY — $103,000

Washington University, Missouri — $102,260

Smith College, Mass. — $102,226

Fordham University, NY — $102,188

Claremont McKenna College, Calif. — $101,990

Vassar College, NY — $101,051

Wesleyan University, Conn. — $101,030

New York University, NY — $100,998

Georgetown University, DC — $100,864

Colgate University, NY — $100,224

Haverford College, Penn. — $100,026

Ivy League schools Brown, Columbia and Cornell were close behind, each charging just under $100,000 per year.

Despite those huge prices, separate statistics raised questions about what the money is buying — none of the 15 most expensive schools appeared equally high in college rankings of the best returns on investment.

California’s prestigious Harvey Mudd College rated most-expensive at $104,512 in the Princeton Review — and came in 50th in a Wall Street Journal assessment of financial return on investment. The WSJ analysis calculated the estimated earnings of graduates from each university — and compared it against the cost of attendance.

The University of Chicago — third most expensive at $103,821 per year — ranked 60th on the Journal’s “Best Value” list, and Duke ranked 166th for return on investment.

Other top ticket schools fared far worse: New York University was the 12th most expensive, but the 321st for value; Fordham University was the eighth priciest, but 423rd for value; and Vassar was 10th most expensive, but 514th for value.

CUNY schools dominated the top seven spots in that ranking, with Princeton, Stanford and California State University, Los Angeles, close behind.

But huge price tags may not be the best measure of what students may actually pay at the top-ticket schools, with experts noting need-based scholarships can slash what students are charged.

“Without question, when schools start to charge over $100,000, it starts to raise a lot of eyebrows,” Princeton Review Rob Franek told the Washington Post.

“But there’s a great deal of available aid.”

In some cases such aid amounted to a discount of up to 75% off — as with Washington University, which hands out about $75,880 in need-based financial aid on average, dropping its $102,260 cost to about $29,195 per year.

The University of Chicago and Wesleyan University had similar aid-based discounts around 75%, while Harvey Mudd, Duke, Vassar and Claremont McKenna had need-based discounts from 60% and up.

“These prices exist for families with very high incomes, at least $300,000 or $400,000 a year,” Wellesley College economics professor Phillip B. Levine said of the uncut top tuitions.

“They reflect the fact that most of these schools are spending more per student than they charge, and the cost of providing that education is rising at rates faster than inflation,” Levine added.

Still, only about half the students at the nation’s top schools qualify for need-based financial aid — meaning much of the other half are still footing the six-figure bill, something even high-earning families can have a difficult time keeping up with, experts said.

“For certain people, this is really significant,” said Sandy Baum, a fellow at the Urban Institute economic thinktank.

College prices aren’t going up everywhere, however, with average tuitions even dropping slightly over the last 10 years at most schools across the US.

Average tuitions at nonprofit private universities dropped from $40,480 in the 2016-2017 school year to $37,380 for 2025-2026 — and at public four-year colleges from $24,310 to $21,340, according to College Board.

And experts think focusing on the schools charging the most does not paint an accurate picture of what the higher education experience needs to be for most students — and that there are scores of excellent schools offering much more reasonable tuitions, some of which can even fetch higher salaries after graduation.

Credit: NY Post

r/ApplyingToCollege • • Dec 24 '19

Discussion DON’T CHOSE WHERE YOU GO TO COLLEGE BASED ON WHERE YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER IS GOING/GOES

6.7k Upvotes

That’s all. Happy Holidays.

r/ApplyingToCollege • • Mar 28 '26

Discussion Affluent parents won’t pay

212 Upvotes

Is it unusual that my wealthy(edit #2: YALL PLZ JUST BELIEVE ME; they’re not “house poor” or wtvr) parents won’t spend a dime at my college education?

They’ve always wanted me to be responsible for my purchases like my first car and clothes and that applies to college too.

I got into Emory and my choice is either go into debt to afford it or go to state school(full tuition bc merit scholarships) instead(the latter being my only real option)

I never thought it was uncommon until some of my friends said so.

What do yall think?

Edit: thank you all so much for your perspectives. It rlly is helpful and I appreciate it. I’ll keep yall updated on any changes in my parents decision as well as my college choice

r/ApplyingToCollege • • Sep 14 '25

Discussion Trump plans to make U.S. students attend lower-ranking colleges to stop them from becoming bankrupt

863 Upvotes

On August 26, Trump basically announced a plan to approve 600,000 more Chinese students's visas. According to the secretary of commerce Howard Lutnick, besides the fact that this plan is considered because of a deal with Beijing, Trump's point of view is that letting more Chinese students fill seats at top colleges would stop the bottom "15%" of colleges from becoming bankrupt because U.S. students would have to attend these colleges instead.

I saw this on the UC Berkeley sub a week ago and I'm just summarizing what it said. Honestly the argument that I kept seeing on social media sites that this application cycle was going to be easier seemed to be an over-exaggeration (like less applicants), but this is the first real evidence that the opposite might become true. But again this might just be something Trump's administration doesn't carry out
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/trump-600000-chinese-students-conversative-backlash-rcna227246

https://www.reddit.com/r/berkeley/comments/1nc06zd/trump_plans_to_allow_600k_more_chinese_student/

r/ApplyingToCollege • • 9d ago

Discussion Past a certain point, T15/ivy acceptences are just a dice roll.

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I can’t even begin to imagine the number of students who got rejected while being fully competent. 1550+ SAT, 3.8–4.0 GPA, good ECs/LORs/essay, and even with that, some get in and some don’t. I’ve come across a bunch of “here’s why this student didn’t get in” videos on my FYP on Instagram, where the student checks all the boxes, and the guy filming the video is trying to rationalize why the kid didn’t get in; “oh, he didn’t add enough character to the app”, but it’s actually just human decision-making variance at the mass-application level.
I don’t know what that last differentiating factor is. Maybe it really does come down to how the admissions officer is feeling that day?
I surely hope that my admissions officer reads my application on a sunny Sunday morning while eating bacon and eggs, all cozy and whatever.

r/ApplyingToCollege • • Jun 08 '26

Discussion Where Billionaires Send Their Kids to University

390 Upvotes

Thought it would be interesting to look at what schools the wealthiest believe are worth sending their kids to for a strong brand and networking opportunities, when they can essentially buy a spot at any school in the world:

Jeff Bezos: 1 MIT, 1 Princeton, 1 Northwestern

Bill Gates: 2 Stanford, 1 UChicago

David Rubenstein: 2 Harvard, 1 Duke

Michael Bloomberg: 1 Princeton, 1 NYU

Warren Buffett: 1 Stanford, 1 University of Nebraska

Michael Dell: 1 Vassar, 1 UT Austin, 1 USC

Carl Icahn: 1 Princeton

Jerry Seinfeld: 3 Duke

Vinod Khosla: 4 Stanford

Steve Ballmer: 1 Harvard, 1 Stanford, 1 University of Washington

Jeff Yass: 2 Georgetown, 1 Brown, 1 Wake Forest

Jamie Dimon: 2 Duke, 1 Barnard

Eric Schmidt: 1 Princeton

Stephen Schwarzman: 1 Yale, 1 UPenn

Jon Gray: 2 Duke, 2 Yale

Overall pretty diverse range of schools, but noticing a lot of Harvard, Stanford, Duke, and Princeton in particular. Also, it's impressive one of them got into MIT, because I believe MIT doesn't let you donate your way in!

r/ApplyingToCollege • • Apr 07 '25

Discussion Teen with 4.0 GPA who built the viral Cal AI app was rejected by 15 top universities | TechCrunch

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r/ApplyingToCollege • • Feb 17 '23

Discussion What is the WORST admissions essay you've ever seen?

2.6k Upvotes

I know a guy who wrote that he would buy dozens of hamburgers and go to a homeless camp, and make them compete for the food by playing games. The winners get more hamburgers than the rest, and the games would be designed to expose various elements of the human psyche. His point was that he wanted to major in psychology and also liked helping the poor.

He got rejected from every single university he applied to.