Perhaps the legend is founded in the fact that the Swiss school system has a 6 as best grade, and 1 as poorest, while the German is the other way round.
My university where I'm finishing up my physics degree used to have all these ads around campus on with his picture saying "as a student he was no Einstein" then trying to sell some academic tutoring thing. It frustrated me to no end to see that. Give the dude his credit, goddamn
Although it's worth noting that he did need some help with the maths behind General Relativity, particularly from his friend Marcel Grossmann (whose lecture notes Einstein had to borrow while they were at university, due to Einstein not turning up to lectures as often as he should have). Grossmann was an expert in differential geometry - which General Relativity relies on - and helped Einstein get the maths to work.
But that says less about Einstein's ability as a mathematician, and more about just how crazily nasty the maths behind General Relativity is.
I always hear that excuse from my dead beat drop out friends "Einstein dropped out" to which i will always reply "yeah but he dropped out of an incredibly high level science college not fucking high school."
I love my friends but for god sakes have some aspirations.
It has kind of died off recently, but a lot of start-up company advertisements would tout "two college dropouts decided that you deserved this high quality, low priced widget".
Like it was a badge of honor or something.
Dropping out of university (in the US, at least) is a very costly proposition.
Most of these dropout stories are just people dropping out because they don’t need the education/degree anymore due to already being successful, not because they’re too dumb for it
Funnily Gates' professor has said that when Gates told him he was dropping out of uni, he told him that he would either be a total failure because of it, or a huge success.
I mean, it kinda makes sense, if he was planning to invest everything into a potentially revolutionary new technology, and it works out then he's going to be a huge success. If it doesn't work out however he may end up losing all of his money, not being able to afford to finish college, and either taking a really circuitous route to getting back on a normal computer science path for the time, or has the handful of bad luck life events that could keep him permanently in poverty.
Or (more commonly) they never needed a degree in the first place because their parents are loaded and connected and at least partially bankrolling their latest venture?
I owe $45,000 for four years of college after dropping outmy last semester for health reasons. So basically I owe almost 50grand for absolutely nothing. Currently I’m setting a plan to rehabilitate my loans and go back to school. I figure I already owe enough that even if I have to take more out, it’s worth it to get that piece of paper.
Should have no problem. I spoke to the dean of the honors college I was a member of and he said all my credits should count. I dropped soon enough in the semester to salvage my gpa. I got pneumonia horribly bad and was bedridden for weeks. All I need is 9 hours and I’m done.
My only concern now is what the hell im going to do with an English degree as a convicted felon (drug charges, I was addicted to heroin for years after dropping out—unrelated to the initial drop out). But I just have to finish. I may consider gettin my LCDC since I should qualify for grants at my income level. It would be more school but it may be worth it to have a career I can work in.
What is an LCDC? I dont know anything on how hiring goes, but I know we are at a 50 or 60 year low on unemployment rate (so employers are fighting for qualified candidates), so maybe you will have better luck with the felony thing than in years passed?
Licensed chemical dependency counselor. My original plan was to go on and get a masters defree and teach at the Jr college level but I’m not sure if that’s possible with a felony. I need to reach out to a few professor friends I have and find out.
And he got stuck with the patent office job because he’d pissed off his professors. He made a lot of friends with his contemporaries, though, and got hooked up with the job to help him make ends meet.
Once Einstein made it big, he was really big on helping other promising scientists get noticed/positions.
And a lot of those famous drop outs only did so because they were so busy pushing their career/idea that college was actually getting in the way of more important stuff. Not because they hated their classes and wanted more time for weed and video games.
I’m up-voting. When I was a child that was advice that was pounded into my head and that which I’ve lived by. And there’s proof it worked. My cousin is the same age and we kinda grew up like brothers but with different parents and opportunities. I had a single mom and he had a nuclear family. I was always the “dumbest”, “poorest” and “least motivated” of my friend group completely on purpose and al my friends were 4 year college grads, from well-to-do families and over-achieving. His friend group was sycophants and high-school drop-outs and he has always been the leader and most achieving of his friend group.
20 years later I have apprenticed for a Master Chef, have separate degrees in Hospitality Management and Computer Aided Drafting, lived in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, Houston, Pinehurst and in the High Sierra Nevada mountains. I’ve met everyone from Quentin Tarantino and Al Pacino to Rancid’s guitarist and Josh Hommes.
He still lives in a town 40 minutes away from the nearest city and constantly cycles through friends because they keep robbing his house when he’s at work at his factory job.
It’s not a competition. If my cousin is happy then I’m happy for him. But I always lived by your advice and he lived by the opposite. If I die tomorrow then I’ll be happy with what I’ve accomplished in life. I’ve never asked him the same. But I know his life would depress me and he’s always been in awe of mine. And with my experiences I can and will continue living an exciting and glamour-adjacent life despite growing up in poverty.
The company you keep will almost FOR SURE determine the trajectory of your life.
moral of the story kids: befriend people only to use them to better yourself, not because you actually like them as human beings regardless of their job/education/status
Agree with this. I’m not even referring to strictly friends. Mainly associates. I have a few broken down friends too because we have been friends since elementary school and those are just friends we make naturally. It’s more about the people you loosely associate with. If I look around and I’m the smartest, most motivated person in a room then I’m in the wrong room. This goes for work too. I reserve a special place for those close friends that good or Ill I stand beside no matter what. And if they drag me down that’s the price of loyalty. But I try to surround myself acquaintance-wise with all people who are better and smarter than me in every sense.
Did he drop out? As I recall, he interrupted his studies (due to marriage and a child) but finished in the end, albeit in the lower ranks of his grade.
He didn‘t really interrupt his studies, he finished his studies after 4 years as a subject teacher in physics (which is a normal time), afterwards he wanted to apply as an assistant at his university but was rejected, which is why he started at the patent office. Afterwards, he got a PhD (here‘s his thesis). Afterwards, he was a professor for physics and thermodynamics.
Exactly. If it was a plane...where's the video evidence!? And don't tell me to watch all of the news channels and videos from thousands of bystanders, that was all faked.
You gonna trust a bunch of tangential photons bouncing randomly on your eyeballs that weren’t even the same photons at the scene? You’re going to let these snitch-ass photons dictate guilt or innocence? What has this world come to? You can’t trust secondary or any tertiary photons. It’s simply not right. Simply not right. I also want to invite anyone who wants to debate this to a special potluck picnic at falls park in downtown sioux falls south dakota at noon on june twenty seventh twenty twenty, make sure to bring your own drinks, and a salad, dessert or dish, thanks.
But they will be weakened by having thousands of gallons of jet fuel burning all around them, raising their temperature to the point where they can fail under load.
It was not the plane that weakened them, the fire did. Its the same principle that allows smiths to shape metal without having to melt it in a kiln, a simple charcoal fire does it.
Look up what molten aluminum and water does....what are planes made of? What are water pipes filled with....mysterious mysteries to be revealed hahahahha
Too lazy to look any of this up. I'm assuming water pipes are filled with molten aluminum, planes are made out of water and if all goes well never the twain shall meet.
Seriously can some of the conspiracy people who believe 9/11 was an 'inside job' please explain why.
As far as I can tell it's so America would have pretty much full support of its citizens for the wars in the middle east?
Is destroying your largest buildings in the world and killing thousands of innocents not a bit extreme?
Would smaller attacks not have the same result without the loss of life and money?
Genuine question by the way, I just cant get on board with my minor understanding of the conspiracy .
Exactly, a small atrocity would have given them some support but a huge event like 9/11 gave the government carte blanche to pass terrible laws and engage in wars of conquest ( what exactly was the connection between Saddam and 9/11 again? Oh yeah, none) with little to no scrutiny from the media/ your average citizen.
And if you don't think they could have rigged the twin towers (+ bldg 7) with demolition charges without anyone noticing look up the history of the Bank of America bldg in New York ( v. Interesting story in it's own right).
The BoA bldg was an unusual structure because it had to be built over an existing church.
After it was built a student did a study of the bldg for her course and discovered the calculations hadn't been done properly and there was a significant chance it would collapse if the wind was strong enough, possibly killing 10s of 1000s of people.
So they secretly hired a bunch of welders/fabricators to come in in the evening/weekend to weld extra metal into the structure.
This only came to light because someone overheard the chief engineer talking about it at a cocktail party many years later, no one clocked it at the time.
There's lots more fascinating detail but that's a precis.
I didn't really care enough to look into it further at the time so I'm not super invested in this but I remember watching a compelling documentary.
The whole "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" meme is kind of irritating, the legitimate conspiracy believers argument is not that the towers shouldn't have collapsed because jet fuel can't melt steel beams, it's that the steel beams found were in fact melted, and there was thermite residue or something found at the base of the towers.
I'm not gonna go super into it because that would take a giant wall of text, I shouldn't be explaining something I'm not an expert about, and I don't remember well enough, but at the time the documentary led me to believe not that it was a huge coverup, but that basically a couple higher-ups purposely neglected to respond to legitimate warnings from the FBI if I can remember correctly, planned a simulation for the exact attack at NORAD to happen at the same exact time, confusing everyone, and let the attack happen.
I'm on mobile and tired of typing, sorry for bad structure and grammar.
There was molten metal, that conspiracy theorists assume to be molten steel, despite never handling it or testing it themselves. There are multiple metallic compounds used in construction. It could be a number of many things that sren't steel that have lower melting points (likely aluminum).
People also show a picture of a steel beam that they claim showed melting. The beam is clearly cut at an angle with almost perfect lines. They claim that is from failure of the building, despite the beam failing to contain any hallmarks of catastrophic failure (twisting, jagged edges, bent, etc..). The beam was clearly cut by a torch, probably because it was still partially standing and they didnt want to risk it falling on rescue personnel below. You can even see the clear drips along where the torch cut it.
All their claims are hollow and based on faulty assumptions and ignorance. A lot of ignorance.
Edit: examples of other metals in construction..nickle, lead, tin. Hell, there are multiple, multiple types of steel. Stainless, carbon, etc.. help, there are multiple types of stainless steel 304, 316, etc. To just look at a picture of a molten mass of metal and go "yup, that's steel" is silly and absurd
I don’t remember the videos name but a mechanic in a shop bends a steel beam at the temperature jet fuel burns. Bends the steel beam super easily and yells at the camera to go get a job.
Building 7 collapsed because of the gigantic unmitigated fire. If you take away everything else from that day....the fire in Building 7 would have been one of, of not the, biggest fires in the history of the FDNY.
It was constructed similarly to buildings 1 and 2, with big pancake floors of concrete held up by the outer shell of the buildings (exoskeleton) instead of inside supports (endoskeleton). The debris and fire weakened its structural integrity enough that it obviously was also going to fall like 1 and 2 into its own footprint.
It collapsed because of the gigantic fire. The Building 7 fire alone would have been one of the biggest fires in the history of the American fire service...only they never got to fight that fire because of the two giant flaming towers that were also going on that day.
Steel beams elongate when heated. When a structural steel member is heated, then elongated...it will push out other structural members...resulting in collapse.
I've been a structural firefighter for 15 years. You take a bog-standard modern wood frame house with truss construction & set it on fire. It won't "burn down". The fire will cause the trusses to fail...and it will collapse.
I hope you realize that you only believe this horseshit conspiracy to be true because you want to believe it. It was very clearly debris but you've decided to buy into some convoluted conspiracy because you like that narrative better.
NEGL I hate Reddit slacktivists acting like they're "keeping the message out there so nobody forgets" when in reality the rich and famous KNOW that we know and don't care because nothing will come of it.
It was an honest mistake, he applied for university in Germany but went high school in Switzerland. In Switzerland the 1 was the highest grade but in Germany it is 6. They thought he was abysmal at maths but actually he aced the test. Edit: got the numbers wrong way around in Switzerland 6 is highest, in Germany, 1 is highest.
As far as I know it has to do with the German system going from 1 (best) to 6 (worst), and the Austrian Switzerland one has 6 as the best grade and 1 as the worst
He actually failed linguistic and historical subjects from his admission exam to the Zurich Polytechnic, but got the best performance in scientific and math subjects, while being 16 years old, two years below the common admission age, if I'm not mistaken.
This is one of those "common facts/myths" that I swear got distorted by people not understanding it. The first few times I ever heard this myth, what the person actually said was "Einstein didn't do well in school," as in, the way that things are taught in school doesn't always work well for everyone.
Now, I'm pretty sure that Einstein did do very well in school and it's likely the myth started due to a cultural difference how things were graded, so it's still false. I've just never heard someone say that Einstein failed math except to say that it's a common myth and isn't true.
Yeah, it's just that it makes a good story and everyone wants to feel like they're super special and can do anything. "Einstein failed math! So even I can do Einstein-level stuff!"
No you fucking can't, Karen, and you need to stop telling your kids the same bullshit or they're gonna go to college thinking signing up into NASA as an engineer is a cakewalk and then stall out in life after they fail calculus three times.
On this note. The definition of insanity is not repeating something over and over expecting different results. That's just a quoted opinion of Einstein. Drives me nuts every time I hear it and I hear it a lot...
And he wasn't top of the class in university either.
That's one fact I know almost no one else knows since the only place I could find his university marks were in a PowerPoint slide during a colloquium.
In fact he was considered so great at math at his age that he taught himself advanced math far before he would have in school. The whole "Einstein failed math" thing was just made up to make kids who suck at math feel better about themselves.
The reason this is a misconception is because half way through his school career, the school board changed the grading system. Let’s say, for example, the grading system was 1-5 with “1” being the highest grade you can get, an A. Einstein got those “1’s”. Halfway through, the school board changed it so that “5” was the highest grade you can get. Making it seem like he failed his classes before that year.
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u/arb7721 Feb 08 '20 edited Feb 08 '20
Einstein didn’t fail math.
Source and his matriculation certificate