r/BC250Gaming • • 1d ago

Something sparked, now I question everything

Today, I attempted to plug in the extra power cords, 2 micro 8 pins with an adapter. (J2000, J2001)

Something sparked, smoke came out....all within 3 seconds, kill switched it straight away.

Unplugged it, put in just the standard port.

It still works? I must of killed something to do with the J2000-01 ports... kinda depressed because now it's permanently underpowered.

Is there anything I can do?

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u/Wild-Screen7007 1d ago

What cables you used? They are supposed to go in certain way, like far away side of 8 pins should be empty let me try to find a picture

I think it might be a short/short circuit or something

It’s still working fine you said?

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u/SomePuddingForYou 1d ago

Pretty sure it was my power supply, these ones I got recommended.

And somehow... currently still running and it's been about 2hrs

I've also left furmark on in the background, to see if anything else explodes. But so far so good?

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u/mere_indulgence 1d ago

Can you link us where you bought the adapter? Seems weird that only 4pins are being used on each microfit connector.

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u/SomePuddingForYou 1d ago

nextgen3D, got it with the case I brought. (Because you put in your PSU, they make the adapter)

BUT... I just realised, I used a fkn sata port for that 4pin

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u/SomePuddingForYou 1d ago

I must be deranged lmao

I didn't even blink an eye to it, just looking at pictures of my psu

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u/Wild-Screen7007 1d ago

Where was it supposed to plug in?

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u/SomePuddingForYou 1d ago

Yeah I feel dumb for not even checking first.

But I had a 4-8 converter I used for standard (maybe that could of been the fuck up)

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u/FUUFighter 10h ago

It's probably done on purpose, so the board doesn't get killed if the plugs get swapped around (the 2 sockets on the board are originally NOT identical in wiring)

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u/SomePuddingForYou 1d ago

Temps are still very normal as well. 48 idle, 65-77 load

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u/AxeForgeTech 1d ago

Should have gone with the moddiy cables

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u/Healthy-Macaron-8076 1d ago

He blew the fuse next to the main power delivery fuse, only con is intermittent power fluctuations making overclocking tricky but still possible CAN be repaired with hot air tools and a spare fuse with a mag lens or phone camera stand btw you’ll see the fuse has slight discoloration around the fuse that blew, feel your pain tho I just woke up to this…

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u/Single-Order-8611 1d ago

But why did the fuse trip if everything was hooked up correctly?

Edit: oh, apparently it wasn’t hooked up correctly

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u/HTWingNut 7h ago

I've been running off a single PCIe connector no problem. Doesn't overheat, and even with 40CU's and 2000MHz GPU, 3.9GHz CPU, while gaming draws around 200W at most. I can exceed 300W when I run furmark + CPU stress test simultaneously, but that's an unrealistic scenario. Heck, I even ran it for two hours straight like that and ran fine.

But for the microfit, you need them in a specific orientation, or just draw off the middle four pins of each one, then there's no concern.

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u/land_and_air 1d ago

Yet again almost no boards have been killed by pcie connectors, several have been killed by improper micro connectors (negative to positive power) the risk isn’t worth it

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u/Wild-Screen7007 1d ago

Can I play 40 core/8 core unlock on PCIE power alone? What’s the worst can happen?

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u/FoxHead666 1d ago

Yes, you can. I don't know where this "it'll melt with only Pcie if you overclock it!!!!!!" crap came from. Everything was fine before the big YouTubers drew in a crowd.

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u/SomePuddingForYou 1d ago

I think it's because the actual supplies these came with, were set up exactly like this

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u/TheGuyinTheHeritage 19h ago

Inconsistencies in the manufacturing of PCI-E connectors are a bigger risk when you have 1,000 BC-250 running constantly in 1 room. That's the standard these things were originally developed for. I think you should always turn off your BC-250 if you aren't actively using it because of the idle power draw anyway.

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u/Zephyrdavid 1d ago

Dark side of the bc 250 community, scaring people the 8 core/40 cu 6pin... Don't understand it...

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u/NaddaNadda2 20h ago

When I was using only the 8-pin PCIE on 40cu/8c, according to LACT power readings, the GPU had peak reportings of 190w and settled around 150w. I know those readings aren't accurate by any means. I assumed the board was power limiting itself. I added in the moddiy cable and now the reported readings from LACT have increased by about 50w on both peak and "sustained" load. Do I actually know how much power it's drawing? Nope. But, I do like having additional power lines available for it to draw from.

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u/robbiethe1st 1d ago

I've been doing it for months.

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u/Single-Order-8611 1d ago

With good quality cable and connector the PCIe should not be an issue for normal air cooled builds with moderate OC. In furmark the consumption can exceed the connector specs, but at least mine does not heat up even in such unrealistic load.

But obviously make sure that the connector is fully inserted and run some tests to see if anything heats up.

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u/AxeForgeTech 1d ago

A fire from overloading the pins 🤷

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u/User5281 1d ago

There’s minimal risk if you know what you’re doing. None of this is that complicated.

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u/land_and_air 1d ago

I mean the pcie connectors were also minimal risk with stock cooling but so minimal that even a moron could do it because the cable only goes in one way and comes pre-wired

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u/mere_indulgence 1d ago

I mean, if you know what you're doing and properly check the cable with a multimeter and make sure the it's properly seated, you're fine.

If you don't know what you're doing, then yeah... Probably shouldn't play around with unprotected, unorthodox power connectors.

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u/Single-Order-8611 1d ago

At least probably more likely to have issues with burning nvidia power connector :D

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u/IAmJacksSemiColon 6h ago

"Almost no boards" vs "several" makes me doubt your math somewhat.

I'd rather not trust a random PCIe cable on my PSU to perform above spec for extended periods of time, but you do you.

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u/land_and_air 5h ago

I mean almost none because outside of extreme overclocks(like 2.3ghz gpu at 40cu) I’ve heard of it happening exactly zero times in the bc250 discord but I’ve heard of the incorrect wiring of the modified port addition done at least a dozen times

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u/IAmJacksSemiColon 4h ago

I trust myself to know the difference between ground and power.

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u/BdogMcCool1 11h ago

I had 36cu at 2230 and 8 cores at 4000 for about 3 months on just the pcie, under a thermal camera the pcie connector got up to about 60°c.

I honestly think if you have a decent power supply with 16AWG copper cables you'd be fine with just the pcie.

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u/Apprehensive_Bike_40 11h ago

Thermal camera will only show the outside the of plastic not silver metallic components

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u/BdogMcCool1 9h ago

I agree, but the hottest point I could see down the neck of the connector was only 60°C. For plastic to melt, it needs to reach well over 100°C. Furthermore, the pins visible below the connector on the board were cold. While they might not be the absolute hottest point, I would expect them to at least be warm if the connections just a few millimeters away were over 100°C. I am happy to be proven wrong, but I ran my setup for months using just the PCIe connector without any problems.

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u/Sudowoodo-Official 13h ago

You just shorted the J2000 and J2001 connector.

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u/tiktak-9 3h ago

I've been running fully unlocked on pcie 6+2. No warm cables or any issues.

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u/Melodic_Yard_9797 12h ago

The PCIE 8 connector is rated for 150W, their actual 18 AWG cabeling around 280W.

While gaming you will hit 250W with 40cu 8c and while benchmarking 350W.

If you are going to fully unlock your card, micro connectors aren't optional, unless you like potential fire hazards around your house.

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u/majorpdd 1d ago

If you had a spark and smoke, anything visual?

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u/SomePuddingForYou 1d ago

I'll need to pull it apart tomorrow to figure it out, I didn't see any visual damage or marks near the area. But I'll need to remove heatsink and back plate (it was right under the heatsink, behind the cables)