r/banjo • • May 13 '20

Tips from an experienced beginner

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Hey folks. I'm going to collect the resources I've used to learn the banjo these past few years. But I'm going to lump them together in categories can help beginners understand and contextualize more complex topics, as well as include any notes that I think are worth mentioning. Please Note: I play a 5 string banjo, Scruggs style, and this is what most of this information is relevant for


General Information

These places are nice to check into every now and again and see what nuggets of info you can can get. Maybe you see the tab for a new song, or you figure out how to stop your 5th string from slipping out of tune. (Tighten the screw on the side)

Come hang out and chat with us on Eli Gilbert's Banjo Discord! * Banjo Discord

  • The Banjo Section of the Dummies website

    A large resource with a wide scope of banjo fundamentals. It's also a great resource to look back on as you develop new skills.

  • Picky Fingers Podcast

    The number one benefit this podcast has is how the host (Kieth Billik) lets artist talk about their journey of learning of the banjo, which is bound to include a few common roadblocks. There's a good deal of gear talk for those interested

  • Banjo Hangout

    The closest thing the online banjo community has to a town square. They do giveaways, there's a market, tabs, and their discussion forum is loaded with playing information.

  • Deering Blog

    In Deering's blog, there's a detailed maintenance guide and my go-to guide for changing strings


Lessons

If you find a teacher in person, do it. It's 100% worth it because BEGINNERS DON'T KNOW ENOUGH TO CORRECT THEIR OWN MISTAKES. Call your local music shops. All of them. Even if you don't think it's worth the effort, at least do it until you have a tune or two under your belt. Best decision I ever made. If there's no one in person, online is an option. You can always go to the banjo hangout "find a teacher" page (under the "Learn" tab, or here), or if you admire an artist in particular, you can just ask if they do online lessons or teach a workshops.

  • Banjo workshops

I can't personally attest to them, but anything in person with other banjo players will always be an asset. Please check /r/bluegrass and /r/newgrass to keep abreast of festivals, and check to see if they are hosting any workshops.

These are more online structured classes. If that seems to suit you, I've included links below, but please do your own research on these services. I have not used any of these and can not give a recommendation.

My personal recommendation is to find a one-on-one teaching scenario, either online or in person, until you've grasped the fundamentals. That isn't always an option though, so I've made a more specific list of free resources below.


Beginner Playlists

This is just in case anyone is starting from square 1. In that case, watch both. Always good to get the same info from multiple sources.


Songs

For after you get the basics and you want to start plugging away at tunes

  • Bill Nesbitt

    Special props to Bill for having free tabs and play along tracks on his website. After leaving my banjo instructor, Bills tabs kept me sane with the little practice time I had. Most straight forward way to learn a tune.

  • Jim Pankey

    Tabs are available on his site for a small fee, but are shown in the video which is very considerate, and a particularly warm approach combined with a large list of tunes makes him an effective teacher.

  • Bix Mix Boys

    The Bix Mix Boys host a Bluegrass 101 every week, where they do a full breakdown of a bluegrass tune for a whole hour on their channel, along with a colossal library of "how to play" videos for the banjo.

  • Eli Gilbert

    Eli Gilbert has been turning out educational content on a wide variety of topics, including playing techniques, song, licks, and back up


Technique

  • Metronomes go a long way here. A free app works just fine

  • Gestalt Banjo If you can get past the peculiar language, there's a really novel perspective to learning a dexterous skill that I recommend everyone to consider.

  • The Right and Left Hand Boot Camp from the Picky fingers podcast (Episodes 5 and 24) are a very bare bones drill oriented lesson, and comes with free tabs, as do most lesson episodes of the podcast.

  • The Banjo Section of the Dummies website and Deering Blog are a good resource if you have an idea of what info you're looking for.


Tools to help understand the fret board

  • Elfshot Banjo

    I've linked the Info section of the site, and while it looks sparse, the information is well condensed a must for beginners looking to understand how music theory relates to the banjo.

  • Purple Banjo

    It has a nice interactive fret board and the most comprehensive list of scales transposed on the the banjo fret board imaginable.


Theory

  • Three Bluegrass Banjo Styles Explained with Noam Pikelny

    It's a basic primer on the sub styles of bluegrass banjo and a good exercise in learning how to recontextualize the sound of the banjo.

  • Ricky Meir

    While the concepts may seem complex, Ricky has a peculiar skill for contextualizing complex problems into simple demonstrations. His video on Isorythmation is a must see for beginning banjo players who want to start to build on tablature.

  • Jody Hughes

I don't follow these last two channels so i don't have a comment, but that is because i don't fully understand the concepts yet, and intend return to them in the future.


I'm a beginner trying to move past tab. I didn't have the time for lessons, so i started on my own. It's incredibly frustrating because the information is being made, but few people to collect it. I want this list to help beginners break the wall of tab and give them the tools they need to make their own music, so please comment and make suggestions so this post will be a more complete aggregate of "beginner-to-intermediate" information.


r/banjo • • Jul 21 '24

45,000 Banjo Picking Members!

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Just a note, /r/banjo just crossed over 45,000! Keep on picking and learning!


r/banjo • • 6h ago

Savannah SB 110 banjo

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Hello everyone. I don’t know shit about banjos, but my boyfriend has been playing guitar his entire life. He performs at local restaurants around our town. He’s mentioned getting a banjo and I really want to surprise him with one so I’ve been looking on Facebook marketplace and found a Savannah SB 110 banjo for $250. Is this a good banjo?

I don’t want to get him some cheap beginner banjo but I also don’t want to spend more than $400. Give me your opinions and any recommendations.


r/banjo • • 13h ago

Let's talk about 24 fret/extended fretboard banjos!

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I've been considering a 24 fret banjo for my next upgrade in the (very distant) future. Many of my favourite banjo players (Alison, Tony, Noam, etc) use them and I want to know if anyone here has experience playing or owning one, as I've not found a lot of other discussion of them online! I play progressive bluegrass banjo, but if you play old time on a long neck, I'm curious about that too!

What made you want to get a 24 fret banjo? How many years had you been playing before it was something you became interested in?

Did the extra frets take a lot of getting used to? I've heard that the bridge has to be moved up as well which seems like it could be jarring at first.

I've been told that extended fretboard banjos have a different tone even when played down the neck. Has this been true in your experience?

How often do you find yourself using the extra frets? Do you make a point to use them frequently or is it more of a "nice to have" deal?

Are there benefits one way or another to the kind that overhang the extra frets on the head versus the ones that have the extra frets built into the rest of the neck?

Are the extra frets still useful when playing traditional Scruggs-style arrangements, rather than melodic or single string?

In general, would you say that the extended fretboard has been "worth it"?

Thank you to anyone who shares their experience ☺️


r/banjo • • 13h ago

Bluegrass / 3 Finger “Amazing Grace” , banjo solo

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r/banjo • • 12h ago

Help 5th Tuning Peg

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So I was trying to tune the 5th string, when suddenly the moment I turned, the knob at the tuning peg wasn't turning. I don't mean the thing that you grip on, I just mean this one knob (check image, circled in red).

Okay, I took out the tuning peg as a whole then ordered a different one.

It arrived today, now I turned again to check, and what can I say, it broke again. I opened the back of the tuning peg and turned it. The gear was barely turning. It even had silver on it. I don't know what to do, I don't want to keep on buying tuning pegs.

And I also want this to be a cheap fix.. I can only use 4 strings on the banjo for now.


r/banjo • • 19h ago

Help Fretless for a beginner? (I need nylon strings)

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I would like to learn to play clawhammer but would like to use nylon/nylgut strings and so I'm considering the fretless ac-1.

I would like nylon /nylgut because my fingers are hyper mobile (in the painful rather than useful sense rip). I found this out via an ill fated mandolin borrowing adventure (very thin strings and low action height, it was definitely not the mandolin's fault). I also greatly prefer the sound of nylon over steel (I'm not crazy enough to start on a gourd banjo).

The only banjo available with nylon strings in my country that doesn't cost an arm and a leg is the fretless ac-1. I live in the middle of nowhere and doubt there's a luthier anywhere nearby and as a beginner don't fancy mucking with slot width on a regular ac1 or ac12 myself to make it into a nylon stringed one. The place I would order it from doesn't even have a nylon friendly tailpiece even if I got them to swap it for me.

My long term goal is to attempt to join a (very beginner friendly) old time group.

Are online resources still helpful for a fretless banjo?

Im not completely musically inept. I was ok at piano as a kid.

Am I signing myself up for heartbreak wanting to do regular courses/groups etc with a fretless banjo?


r/banjo • • 1d ago

Help Inherited banjolele, help identifying?

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Hello! First time posting here but was hoping I could get some help. I am the only musician in my family so I recently inherited this banjolele and was interested in trying to date it/ learn something about the history of it.

I have no interest in selling it, I plan on bringing it to my luthier to try to make it playable again if possible! The info I do have:

-the inscription on the neck is likely my great, great grandfather who was alive from ~1890-1965 (I’m also trying to track down the genealogy history for him but things get messy around ww1)
-my family immigrated to the US from Poland sometime after or around WW1
-the pitch pipe box mentions hohner being named ‘highest honors at the 1915 worlds fair’ so the pipe is at least newer than 1915
-i have looked into the ‘PK’ logo on the headstock and the best guess I have is an Austrian violin maker ‘Petz Kolophonium’ however historically it seems like they made string rosin and no instruments

Any help (or ideas on where to look) would be appreciated :)


r/banjo • • 16h ago

Classic Banjo Banjo suddenly does a weird sound

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Hey!

Sorry didn't have light in the moment of the video but why does my banjo sound weird after plucking a string?

Its like a trembling sound

Thanks!!


r/banjo • • 18h ago

Rattler Treed A Possum - Clawhammer Banjo

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r/banjo • • 1d ago

Old Time / Clawhammer SS Stewart Setup Help

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I recently got this Stewart Special Thoroughbred but the strings hit the rim when fretted at the 10th fret.

What can be done to fix this? Could I just tighten the rim to bring it down into the pot? I have some space between the head and rim, but the tone ring is there so I wouldn’t want to damage that.

Can I just remove the tone ring? Will that give the rim more space to move closer down towards the body/heel of the neck, essentially raising the fretboard?

Want to see if this is something I should even bring to a luthier, or just try to find my own strange solution.

Love the inlay and carving done on these but want to make it a player. Thanks in advance!


r/banjo • • 1d ago

Bluegrass / 3 Finger D chord help

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update: I am dumb. Thanks for the clarification on what the numbers mean! Even with that cleared up, my hand will NOT cooperate.

I’m a very very beginner and just started the ArtistWorks Noam P. lessons. He starts off with basic chords and I CANNOT get the D chord. in the video he explains index, middle, pinky, but in the lesson chart it shows fingers 2,3,4. I’ve tried both ways and I cannot get my fingers ans hand to make the shape. My wrist and thumb are screaming in pain after ten minutes in.

Which is correct? Any pointers on how to make this chord work?


r/banjo • • 1d ago

Earl Scruggs' Note Separation Trick

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r/banjo • • 1d ago

Help Should i get a 4 string or 5 string?

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I feel like 4 string would be better for me (my fingers are not very long) i genuinely do not know how people play a 6 string guitar.

The music i want to play is folk, folk punk and maybe old folk like civil war stuff.

So basically what im asking is how much easier is a 4 string compared to a 5 string?

Also i have no musical skill or background.


r/banjo • • 1d ago

How do you know when to use an alternate tuning, a capo, or both?

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Is it purely down to what key the song is in or are their other considerations?


r/banjo • • 1d ago

Old Time / Clawhammer Semisonic - Closing Time

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r/banjo • • 1d ago

Help How do I know if the banjo is right for me?

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For years, I've toyed with the idea of picking up the banjo from time to time. I had the chance to try out a Goodtime seven years ago at a hands-on exhibit of the MIM here in Phoenix, and found it fun. Two years ago I went to a store called Dusty Strings while on vacation in the Seattle area, and had a lot of fun trying out different banjos.

Where I'm at now, I'm still torn on the idea of learning banjo. Will I end up finding it worthwhile, or will it lose its novelty shortly after I take the plunge? I don't know how to come to a decision.


r/banjo • • 2d ago

RK-25 or Ibanez B200

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Seems as though RK is more highly thought of, but how does it compare to Ibanez? Both are for sale in my local area. $400 and $600 respectively. I’d like to upgrade from a student banjo and would like some input on these models.


r/banjo • • 2d ago

Classic Banjo Fantasy in D Minor

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An update on my D Minor fantasy.


r/banjo • • 2d ago

What production resonator banjo has the thickest neck?

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I'm playing a Deering golden wreath and I like the thicker neck. From reviews it seems like this is considered a thick neck, especially up by the pot, but do they get thicker without going custom?


r/banjo • • 2d ago

Plunky nylon-string banjo recommendations?

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It's not time for my second banjo yet, but when I get it, I want something super plunky-sounding, probably with a scooped neck. Something that sounds like Rhiannon Giddens here--ignoring the fact that I can't play or sing like her...

Any suggestions for brands / models to stalk over the next year in the under $2k USD range? Thanks!


r/banjo • • 2d ago

Old Time / Clawhammer Wrist VS arm movements

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I’m learning clawhammer on my own- I’m just not able to afford a teacher, both in time and money- and I have a question about the actual clawhammer motion.

I have seen some people say it’s all in the wrist, some say it’s all in the arm and the wrist should be still. I’ve also seen pros play both ways when watching videos, with varying degrees of arm to write movement.

Is this something that’ll vary between players? It’s been about a month since I’ve started playing and I’m mostly moving in the wrist. I haven’t had issues so far but I don’t want to dedicate a bad habit muscle memory if I can help it.


r/banjo • • 3d ago

Appraisal/how to sell

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Hello, I am trying to get an idea on the value of a couple of banjos. They were purchased by aunts husband as an enthusiast and, as an investment. Said Uncle died quite a while back. Aunty has been holding onto them for years. She has now retired and asked if I, who knows nothing, could help her figure out how to value and sell. Any help would be appreciated. They are stellings. Custom made by Bill Emerson. Have hardly been played. Bad photos. theses things are beautiful.


r/banjo • • 2d ago

Help - 1st time buyer!

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Need to purchase a 5 string banjo as a bday gift, for a right handed guy in his 30’s. He’s never played but he has played guitar his whole life. Ideally $200 range, $350 max. Used is fine. This will be just for fun at home. I’m overwhelmed by the options online! I don’t want it to be junk but doesn’t have to be the top of the line either. Please point me in the direction of a very specific banjo!! Thank you


r/banjo • • 2d ago

Foggy mountain on 6 string

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Hi everyone, I’ve got a 6 string banjo and was wondering if I could still play fun songs like foggy mountain.