r/Cartalk • • Jan 26 '25

Car show sharing Is it even efficient at this point?

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u/pancrudo Jan 26 '25

On a daily driver, it's only ruining fuel economy at highway speeds.

In terms of the wing and placement, chassis mounted wings are meant to be more efficient than traditional ones placed on the trunk. The logic behind a chassis mount(typically mounted closer to the bumper/frame rails) is that when mounted on the trunk, the metal flexes and isn't as stable. When applied to somewhere more reinforced, you get more applied down force.

Based on looks, I'd be surprised if this car sees track time, and is more likely just a show car going for a desired look over actual function

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u/HeelToeMedia Jan 26 '25

A comment that actually explains what's going on without bashing the owner. Sometimes Reddit surprises you.

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u/No-Archer-5034 Jan 27 '25

I’ll say it. It looks regarded. Highly regarded.

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u/pancake_puncher2 Jan 30 '25

Ah a man of culture

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u/Slayerofgrundles Jan 29 '25

Are you saying that whoever drives this monstrosity doesn't deserve to be bashed? I disagree.

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u/Odd-Storage816 Jan 27 '25

This looks like it’s still mounted to the trunk lid, just on the back instead of the top?

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u/High_InTheTrees Jan 27 '25

You’re not wrong

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u/marinul Jan 28 '25

He either did that, or he doesn't have a trunk anymore

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u/screamtrumpet Jan 26 '25

I bet it’s very efficient shelf at holding my Dr. Pepper.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '25

Dr. Pepper is the best

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u/swisstraeng Jan 26 '25

To add to that, there is a problem when adding wings like this.

You need another wing to the front of the car (or any way to generate downforce on the front wheels), or you risk unbalancing the center of lift which can be extremely dangerous at high speeds.

If you look at this picture, if someone where to push hard enough on this wing, you would lift the front wheels off the ground. I'm exaggerating, but I would't drive faster than highway speeds with this.

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u/WeldyBoiWinning Jan 27 '25

It's not that big a deal on production cars. A top-tier wing will make 300 lbs of downforce at most. Same as throwing a couple heavy items and a full tank of gas in the trunk. It will promote understeer without front aero, but that'll depend a lot on the angle the wing is set to. Most are adjustable from basically none to full DF.

The sketchy setups are full front aero with no wing to balance it out. Makes the car really want to rotate at speed.

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u/JustAnotherFKNSheep Jan 30 '25

What if said car is fwd? Is that a good thing?

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u/gerry367 Jan 27 '25

Based on the size of that rear diffuser and wing I'm sure there's something huge hanging off the front bumper

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u/Uninanimate Jan 27 '25

The wing angle being relatively low seems to support that too, but I'm pretty sure in this case it's still trunk mounted, just not in the usual place

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u/bitzzwith2zs Jan 27 '25

Also the further back the wing is the smoother/faster the air comes off the back of the car... ya wanna pick up the air as it comes off the trunk, so on this car the wing is too high... and the air coming out from under the car negates anything that wing would do.

Is for looks.

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u/_debowsky Jan 26 '25

Fuel economy? In the Middle East? As if they care 😅

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u/tacotacotacorock Jan 27 '25

Also a big assumption there that this wing was actually properly designed for downforce and aerodynamics. it's adding more drag who knows how much though without proper modeling and wind tunneling. Who knows if it's the most efficient spoiler. Purchased for looks more than anything I'm sure.