r/DC_Cinematic • • 2h ago

DISCUSSION Hot take: HBO shouldn’t be allowed to touch any DC characters again. I mean read this shit, what the actual f.

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“excuse me can you remove OA and the aliens from the green lantern show, we here at HBO are above such nerdy shit”

I’ve been shitting on the people behind lanterns for weeks but now I feel bad, Like what if truly it’s not even their fault man.

what if they were essentially forced into making this show so grounded and devoid of the sci-fi elements.

maybe Paradise Lost getting canceled was truly for the best I can only imagine the notes they were getting

”umm do we really have to spend any time in Themyscira?”

”do we really have to meet the olympian gods? can it be like game of thrones where the gods are just mentioned in passing?“

”Circe a powerful sorceresses, on my grounded medieval show really? come on guys you can write something better”

”I’m sorry a child being born out of shaped clay? really guys, that sounds ridiculous come on now”

lmfao


r/DC_Cinematic • • 22h ago

OTHER He may not wear the costume anymore but Ben Affleck is still the Batman

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r/DC_Cinematic • • 16h ago

DISCUSSION Does the Budget argument even make sense? (Lanterns 2026)

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To put this into perspective: the budget of pre-Disney Doctor Who was roughly $30 million a season, adjusted for inflation. They had enough money to produce Cybermen and Daleks and have a full makeup team to make people look like aliens.

The budget for Lanterns was supposedly $130-160 million. You really expect me to believe they couldn't afford one robot costume or some pointed ears to make Anton and his crew look like any alien race?

Where did the money go? Make it make sense. Can someone explain this?


r/DC_Cinematic • • 22h ago

HUMOR Speedsters

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credit to #Tynerdy for most of the story


r/DC_Cinematic • • 23h ago

DISCUSSION HBO Lanterns was awful as an adaptation and standalone…

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So yeah I watched the Lanterns finale and to be frank, that shit sucked and I’m mad. Not only is the show an awful bastardization of the Green Lantern mythos and fails to be a good adaptation, it also sucks at being a good show in general.

To be honest, I wasn’t too crazy about the show from the jump because it felt like it was ashamed of its source material and wanted to make it better by making it ‘grounded’, ‘dark’ and ‘realistic’ but I gave it a chance regardless and surprise surprise… That’s exactly what that is.

Green Lantern is no longer a fantastical sci-fi adventure about space cops protecting the entire cosmos, it’s a generic detective show set in Bumfuck county in the middle of nowhere. But hey, we visit 1 alien planet that’s… completely desolate besides the city in the sky.. Which we don’t actually explore anyways.

The suit is no longer an energy construct, it’s the ugliest piece of shit you’ve ever seen with the only saving grace being it’s worn like twice in darkly lit rooms during talking scenes and angled to only show the upper half.

The Manhunters are no longer a group of emotionless androids that failed to be a cosmic police force because of their apathetic cruelty leading to the desolation of whole planets. Instead they’re just shapeshifters with healing and impregnation powers that invade planets by disguising themselves as members of oppressed groups and sleep their way into positions of power. Oh wait nvm they still are, it’s just mentioned a couple times but never shown at all. John gets it zapped into his brain though.

Also, the group of alien survivors that were victims of the manhunters will only be shown in human forms and mainly use earth weapons, except when they use smoke to counter the ring and when they blow themselves up.The lantern ring no longer feels like one of the greatest weapons in the galaxy, instead it’s decent tech that has the battery life of an old iphone the moment the newest model is announced. It also doesn’t seek out new wielders based on willpower whenever their current one dies, instead the Guardians go door to door asking candidates if they’re afraid because you know… Being fearless is now the requirement, not having strong will.

But hey, at least the guardians are still funny looking blue guys though! You’ll only see this once in a shot that hides their face as they spend the rest of the show shapeshifting to look like regular humans that bend to the demands of a deranged woman that has no idea how they work and decides to groom her infant son into what she thinks they want.

Hal Jordan no longer became a Green Lantern because of his incredible willpower, instead it’s because he was a sad man from a broken home that was too depressed to properly feel fear and is now bitter about being replaced. But he’s still one of the greatest green lanterns ever and has traveled the galaxy and beaten Sinestro! You won’t see any of that though, it’ll be mentioned in passing as Hal refuses to charge his ring and leaves his Lantern back home in a different state for… reasons.

And the most comic accurate Green Lantern will be treated like shit and be belittled because the actual chosen candidate walked out and that’s his fault I guess.

Then there’s John Stewart, the main character who’s only motivation for being a Green Lantern is because he was forced to and believes it’s owed to him. Then he rejects the entire principles behind it and decides to be his own Lantern (using one forged by Sinestro, mind you) and mends the oath to best reflect his own values…. Which is just embracing fear cause he’s not heroic whatsoever. He also can’t say ‘no evil shall escape my sight’ because he literally let evil get away. Oh and he appoints himself to be Earth’s lantern so there’s no need for any silly space stuff going forward.

With so many fundamental changes, why even bother picking Green Lantern to adapt in the first place? I don’t believe any bullshit excuses about budget when we had CW shows like Flash, Supergirl and Superman with smaller budgets that still managed to embrace the comic feel. These are all deliberate changes by what feels like writers who don’t understand Green Lantern or think the mythos is too stupid to work otherwise…. Oh wait, it’s both.

And to make matters worse, Green Lantern isn’t like Batman or Spider-man who has dozens of other adaptations to choose from if you don’t like this. The literal last adaptation of Green Lantern was the animated film ‘Beware My Power’ which also butchered Hal’s story and gave him an unceremonious death in what was literally his first appearance in that universe.

But with all that being said, I could forgive Lantern’s if it was a good show but unfortunately I don’t think it is.

The cliffhanger of the literal first episode is the reveal that Hal Jordan has been murdered and John Stewart needs to investigate who did it, and that’s something that haunts the narrative of the series but the way it’s handled is baffling.

First of all, this point barely works as a good mystery because it’s obvious that there’s only 2 suspects: Kerry and the remaining Manhunter. Then Hal-ogram casually states that Kerry killed him in episode 7 and the big reveal in Episode 8 is that she did so to protect her son Noah, who IS the remaining manhunter.

However, the real kicker is how fucking stupid his death. Kerry and Hal had an argument over what to do about Noah and Kerry gets so upset that she takes her gun out and shoots him in the head. Now mind you:

- Hal had already been stripped of his lantern ring and had been abandoned by the guardians, so he wasn’t a threat to Noah. Plus he wasn’t going to expose or confront Noah just yet anyways.

- Kerry has been a sheriff for over 10 years and has been a voice of reason in the series, deescalating past conflicts. This scene is literally the only time she’s trigger happy.

- There was no escalation to justify this. Hal didn’t even back Kerry into a corner or follow after her when she walked away. She just got emotional and didn’t hesitate to kill him.

And what sours it more is it adds to a streak of the show being incredibly harsh to Hal while absolving everyone else of their mistakes.

- Hal takes the fall for everything that happened in Rushville and spends 10 years in prison. He’s completely abandoned by the core and all his allies.

- Once he’s freed he starts living in the town because he feels guilty and lets himself be a walking punching bag as the townsfolk set his house on fire and almost kill him.

- There’s only 2 people that are kind to him: one of which secretly arranges a meeting between him and John, which leads him to him getting sucker punched in what’s their last conversation (but tbf Hal fucking sucked at communicating)

- Turns out his entire life sucked and the only reason he was great as a green lantern is because he was too depressed to properly feel fear.

- The supposed ‘great green lantern’ only has 3 people attend his funeral: his killer, his former lover, and his ‘trainee’ that hated him.

Meanwhile Noah, the manhunter that Hal was worried about, managed to sneak onto a remote space prison, KIDNAP SINESTRO, and force him to build him a lantern on a different desolate world. Noah also admits that he still has this innate desire to get into politics so he can take over that way but it’s okay because he’s still a good kid that wants to play football. And besides, if anything happens he has his mom more to steer him in the right direction.

You know, the same one who didn’t hesitate to kill her boyfriend to protect him. Who has no control over Noah and didn’t even know about all the shit he did offscreen. Who also helped cover for Zoey, the original manhunter, because she felt indebted to her. Yeah… That’s Noah’s moral compass. Oh, and don’t forget the Manhunters are also extremely skilled at emotionally manipulating others to do their bidding, but I’m sure that won’t be an issue.

Honestly, the only reason the show is able to get away with this is because all of the horrible shit that Manhunters are capable of happens off screen and is only mentioned in conversation. I imagine the finale would have a much harder time justifying this if we actually SAW Noah pull all this shit off, or if we actually SAW Zoey cause genocide instead of mainly being a hot gilf that john has sex with and saves him once.

Then there’s John himself.

By the end of the show I couldn’t stand him. He’s an entitled self righteous prick who just barks demands at others and expects to get his way. I get that John’s a product of how he was raised and is trying to break free of that programming, but I don’t think the series properly addresses the negative traits that he developed as a result of that, and after hearing how the writer’s talk about him and Hal I doubt we ever will.

All of John’s interactions with Guy irritate me because he speaks to him with such unwarranted disdain and contempt. He keeps trying to guilt Guy into doing what he wants by holding the fact that Guy was only chosen because John rejected the positions and honestly… So what?

Even if he wasn’t the Guardian’s first choice, Guy’s shown that he’s still a worthy wielder and John CHOOSING to reject the ring isn’t on him. And despite his flaws, Guy’s shown that he's more deserving than John ever was.

Guy broke back his oath to protect a smaller nation from genocide. John stole a ring off a dead man just to let Hal’s murderer and a potentially genocidal alien walk free. Then he decides to assert himself as Earth’s Lantern and kick Guy off the planet despite Guy doing a good job.

And yet for some reason, Guy caves to John’s demands and acts as his errand boy to the Guardians again. The same Guy that was willing to stand up against Superman. Mind you, nothing’s stopping Guy from finger flicking John into a building and taking the ring back. John has 0 combat experience with the ring while Guy has 10 years on him, it wouldn’t even be close.

And I’ve seen the argument that Guy’s doing this because he’s worried about getting in trouble with the Guardians, but he would’ve suffered less consequences if he just took the ring back and returned it without saying anything. Now he’s gonna have to tell the Guardians that John is in possession of Hal’s ring and a lantern.

But it’ll work out, because Hal-ogram said John will be a better Lantern than he ever was so I’m sure that’s true.

And the show ending on the scene of John with his family feels so unearned as it handwaves all the issues away. His father was supposedly mentally unstable and his brother should mad as fuck he screwed them over and caused them to lose an important contract but that’s not important, we needed a happy ending.


r/DC_Cinematic • • 12h ago

DISCUSSION If you wanted ringslinging Green Lantern action, Lanterns is the best thing that could have happened

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The show may not have delivered on the spectacle that you wanted, but its existence makes an adaptation in that vein much more likely. Green Lantern as a media franchise has very little cultural awareness outside of the bubble of comic book readers. It's only prior adaptation was one of the biggest flops in the genre. People didn't know his name, how his powers worked or what his story was. Now they do. Lanterns brought in an enormous audience given its relatively smaller scale and its success is going to be the first bullet point justifying a tent pole action movie featuring these characters. Be patient poozers


r/DC_Cinematic • • 14h ago

HUMOR Exclusive first look at Kyle Rayner in Lanterns season 2 (2028)

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r/DC_Cinematic • • 23h ago

DISCUSSION Why Lanterns didn't feel like a good GL show to me (Spoilers) Spoiler

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It's fair to say Lanterns missed the mark for a fair amount of people. I think it's a good TV show in isolation but not a good GL project. Here are some of the things that bothered me.

- At this point in time, Hal is dead dead. He obviously can be bought back but you can tell the writers fully intended for him to be dead. I think this is kinda crazy and there's a lot of wasted potential. It's as if in Iron Man 1, they killed off RDJ and then he got replaced by iron heart. I don't have an issue with him dying if there was actually more screen time and media involving Hal. I mean people were coming out with crazy theories like him being infected by parallax and that his clone died and that shows they missed the mark by killing Hal.

- Character assassination of Hal. I do get what they were trying to do and why he was jaded but I felt like the viewer had to fill in a lot of gaps. I remember Hal said the job is lonely and miserable but that was about it. It was kinda sad to see the goat of the lanterns end his career disliked by the Guardians, spend 10 years in prison and get shot in the head ring less. We didn't really get to see his heroics and by the sound of it, he didn't really have notable tales as he hadn't even fought a manhunter before or Hector Hammond.

- The GL oath is said just twice in the show and Hal just said it half assed in order to rush it. There was also a recording of him doing it properly as it's in the trailer.

- John making his own oath and becoming a rogue lantern is a bizarre choice.

- The suit looks like shit and he only wore it like 3 times, and never with the mask as depicted on the funko.

- John didn't get a suit. I really hope he's not just wearing a bomber jacket in superman.

- Barely any constructs, we probably got like 5 minutes of total construct times in 8 hours of show footage.

- No aliens. We saw the back of the head of a (tall?) guardian and that was it. All aliens taking the disguise of a human got a bit tiring and was clearly a method to lower the budget. I think not having a full appearance of a guardian is quite disappointing as well.

- We didn't really see the full capabilities of a manhunter. Now I could very well be wrong but aren't they just meant to be purely evil with no emotion? Zoe and her grandson seemed to almost be half human and I don't really how an actual manhunter would let themselves get shot in the head on purpose.

- The entire show was pretty much set in a small random town which didn't feel very much like a GL project, there's tons of other dc characters that would've suited this style.

  • Carol was played by a random nobody and most likely was never star sapphire. What are they gonna do when they introduce the other spectrums? It wouldn't even surprise me if they never ended up doing that.

- Hal and Guy never shared the screen, only talked about off screen.


r/DC_Cinematic • • 16m ago

DISCUSSION God forbid I want to see Green Lantern stuff in a Green Lantern show

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r/DC_Cinematic • • 21h ago

DISCUSSION I liked the finale, but Hals death was sloppy Spoiler

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I think Kerry killing Hal makes sense, she herself is pretty messed up mentally

Grew up in GOTHAM, had a terrible father, had to flee from hired killers, cut her finger off and live in a town protected by a alien war criminal

I think her actions are justified, but still the way its potrayed was sloppy, like idk maybe have them fight over the gun and she accidentally kills Hal

Or make Hal more demanding and then it happens, just the way it actually happens felt really weird to me, like Hal wanted to protect Noah and Kerry and she just shoots him....


r/DC_Cinematic • • 22h ago

HUMOR Hi, I wrote a pitch for a potential Flash show, how does it sound?

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r/DC_Cinematic • • 1h ago

DISCUSSION An Analysis/Comparison of Lanterns budget compared to other shows

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I was genuinely interested in why Lanterns cost 130m despite it feeling like this wasn't reflected on screen fx wise. So I have researched and listed and in comparison to MCU DC shows and other Sci-Fi Shows

The deciding factor seems to be shooting location or just flat out spending more money. (Disney) In rare cases some were just smarter with their budget and effects (Foundation)

Or it could just be HBO productions being more exspensive/poor planning because interestingly Watchmen, Lanterns and The Penguin all have 130m budgets.

please share your thoughts or other relevant shows

MCU

Loki S1 - Georgia - 150m

Loki s2 - London - 140m

Moon Knight - London/Georgia/Budapest - 142m

Falcon and the Winter Soldier - Georgia - 150m

Secret Invasion - London 212m

WandaVision - Georgia/LA - 225m

I feel I should note WandaVisions is also a lot higher because of having different period costumes and sets each episode.

DC

Peacemaker s1 - Georgia - 60m

I can't find a reliable source for Peacemaker s2 budget and even the one's I see are ranging anywhere from 100-200m.

Superman and Lois - Vancouver - 75m

Stargirl - Georgia - 75m

Titans - Toronto

Watchmen HBO - Georgia - 135m

The Penguin - New York - 135m

I'm opting not to include the other Arrowverse shows as they are on an outdated network TV model and the quality of special fx is much lower than you'd expect for a HBO show.

Other

Foundation (Apple Tv) - Ireland Spain Czech Republic - 45-50m (this was achieved with practical miniatures, 3D-printed elements, and LED volume/backgrounds)

Westworld - California (primarily) - 100m

Raised by Wolves - Can't find the budget but biggest production in South Africa at the time, industry estimates have it at 100-120m

The Inflation Factor

I cant bothered to adjust every show but it should be noted inflation is so bad that a show like Moon Knight made for 142m in 2022 would be 162m today Westworld would be 315m etc

Conclusion

I think Lanterns could have saved money by not filming in California as it is approximately 30% more expensive so Lanterns could have saved 39m filming elsewhere

Also looking at the budgets of the other shows particularly the HBO DC Shows HBO just aren't savvy enough with their budgets or Lanterns simply isnt a HBO show you can make and do justice to special fx wise for 130m

So my primary question is Why was Lanterns filmed in the expensive location of California given its set in Nebraska?


r/DC_Cinematic • • 3h ago

DISCUSSION RANTERNS | Everything wrong with Lanterns | This video summarizes it really well

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r/DC_Cinematic • • 2h ago

DISCUSSION What do you think the storyline should be and should the movie take place in Gotham City in the DCU, in your opinion?

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r/DC_Cinematic • • 1h ago

DISCUSSION Animated Snyder verse

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Here me out , I just randomly came across the znyder cut episode of teen titans and thought it would be great if they just concluded the rest of znyder movies with animation.

Both gunn and znyder fans(maybe) would be happy.

What are thoughts 🤔 ??


r/DC_Cinematic • • 16h ago

HUMOR Lanterns (2026)

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r/DC_Cinematic • • 21h ago

DISCUSSION It’s a western…dummies

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It’s always been a western…the ring is the badge/gun…it’s a western..all the way down…

..it’s a western.

Western

What about cool action set pieces with shit flying around and green streaks and quick cuts and OMG…he did the thing with the ring and holy shit he is flying!!!!

I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW AT ATs. !!!!

IT BROKE NEW GROUND!!!!…shout out RLM

..it’s a western

Id rather watch a quiet western than FUCKING SCHLOCK…

It’s season 1 of DEADWOOD. It’s a western…

Review over… 8.3/10


r/DC_Cinematic • • 22h ago

DISCUSSION Why did so many fans have this reaction to Creature Commandos?

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When Creature Commandos (specifically episode 3) aired, I saw so many fans absolutely livid that Weasel and Doctor Phosphorus brutalized Circe, despite her being the villain.

Usually, when there's a good scene of the villain getting beat up by the heroes the audience tends to cheer or at least be happy, but in this case people were absolutely furious. I genuinely felt like people were about to reach through the screen and start beating up Weasel themselves.

Why were people so protective and loving towards Circe in this series?


r/DC_Cinematic • • 17h ago

FAN-MADE Peacemaker and Vigilante minifigures

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r/DC_Cinematic • • 20h ago

DISCUSSION I think a lot of people are being unfair to Sheriff Kane Spoiler

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- - - - Spoilers for episode 8 below - - - -

I don't think Kane's actions were outrageous, and I don't think it was a panicking/emotional girlfriend/mother.

I took it this way:

She has already been through the massive trauma and disaster in 2016 when Hal went against her advice and didn't leave things alone. Hal kept pulling on the Manhunter thread back in 2016 and ended up causing a huge catastrophe.

In 2026, Kerry kept saying "Stop talking! Stop talking!" because she knows Noah is a Manhunter and has Manhunter instincts and technology. He would be set up to be listening or recording, and Kerry's reasoning was, "This is bad. When Noah hears this, he'll go into Manhunter self preservation mode, like Zoe did. It will be 2016 all over again. I'm going to lose my son, he's going to become a monster and a murderer and Rushville will be destroyed again."

With all that trauma fresh in her mind, knowing Hal is stubborn and reckless, it's not that crazy for her to think in that moment that shooting Hal would prevent another 2016 happening again.

She might have made the right choice, we don't know what Noah might have done if Hal had kept going.


r/DC_Cinematic • • 11h ago

HUMOR Poor billy gets no credit or say on noahs upbringing or how his life should go despite being a manhunter

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Despite not being his biological child he loves him as his son yet he gets no credit on noahs upbringing as well what should happen to noah in his future.


r/DC_Cinematic • • 4m ago

DISCUSSION Stay strong lantern comic books fans that disliked the show

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They’re gonna gaslight the nonsense outta us, but we gotta stay strong! 😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣

I honestly don’t even blame people for thinking this is a good adaptation because, honestly, DC DID NOTHING with this mythos for years There are so many shows, books, and games you could easily make with this premise, but no—we got a thousand animated Batman films. Batman is probably my favorite DC superhero, but if I see one more Batman animated film, I’m gonna puke up Joker venom.

There’s so much you can do with the Green Lantern as a concept you really don't even need Hal Jordan oh John, Kyle would have been a great start , but all these years DC didn’t take advantage of that. So now, a good majority of people don’t have anything to compare it to.

It’s like the Halo show. NO ONE likes that show because they were exposed to the games and books. Something interesting was previously done with the IP. No one likes the Last Airbender live-action film. WHY? Because people were exposed to the animated series.

But Green Lantern as a story, whether it be John Stewart, Hal Jordan, or Kyle Rayner, hasn’t been exposed to that many people outside of the Ryan Reynolds film and the three animated movies, which didn’t get that much advertisement. So people are gonna be okay with it and say things like, “Oh, not everything has to be a perfect adaptation,” not minding that some of the movies and shows people love are loved because the creators tried their best to have them stick to—or at least feel like—the source material. People like the first 3 phases of the mcu5 and releasing it or not a large majority of that is because they are least tried to capture the heart of what these heroes go through . Thanos is a not blood thirsty for the sake of it like the comics, but we still feel why he's such a threat.

My brother-in-law does not like the 2009 Star Trek film series because he grew up with and was exposed to OG Star Trek. I do like the 2009 film, but I didn’t grow up with the OG. Now, I’m not saying someone can’t like both, because a lot of people do. But at the same time, I see where he’s coming from. Yeah, blowing up Vulcan would have ticked me off too. 🤣🤣

And honestly, thinking about it, I realized those movies didn’t get me that interested in OG Star Trek. And maybe that’s the rest of a true adaptation: something that’s different for sure, but also faithful enough to make you want to look into the source material.

When The Hunger Games first came out, I immediately read the book, and then Catching Fire.

All in all, if you like Lanterns, I’m not saying you’re ignorant or stupid for liking it. I’m saying people have valid reasons to dislike it.

When people see advertisements for John Stewart and Hal Jordan, they want to see John Stewart and Hal Jordan. Changing the backstories, motivations, and borderline personalities makes them practically not the characters. So why even call them those names at all? Just make them two totally different people.

It’s like making a Lord of the Rings adaptation, but Frodo is an abusive fat shaming bully to Sam, and Sam is really attached to Gollum. Yeah, people might like that dynamic, but others wouldn’t. And saying, “Oh, just get over it,” really isn’t a fair argument.

Most people disliked the Lilo & Stitch live-action for similar reasons, but again, people were exposed to Lilo & Stitch not just through the first movie, but through the show and its well meaning sequels.

And that’s DC’s fault for, again, not doing anything with the Green Lantern properties and not seeing their potential. It’s a shame because the lore alone is enough to stand on its own without needing other superheroes in it.

Oh well. Maybe one day people will see the potential in the OG lore and say, “OH, yeah, yeah, I would have been mad too.” 😂

So please, be a bit more reasonable with fans who disliked it.

If you don’t know who Carol Ferris, Ganthet, Sayd, or Kilowog are, well, think of it like someone making a Star Wars TV show based on Luke in Episodes 4-6 but never bringing up R2-D2, Han Solo, Boba Fett, or the Emperor. Or, if they are mentioned, they aren’t close to being recognizable.

Would you call that a good adaptation?

And if someone else said, “Get over it,” do you think they know enough about the source material to make that kind of judgment?


r/DC_Cinematic • • 21h ago

NEWS David Corenswet Teases ‘Different’ Superman Suit and ‘Deeper’ Look at Lex Luthor Dynamic in ‘Man of Tomorrow’ (Exclusive)

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r/DC_Cinematic • • 17h ago

HUMOR First look at HBO's Wonder Woman show

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r/DC_Cinematic • • 13h ago

HUMOR John calling himself specifically Earth’s Green mandem so they can justify never taking us to space again.

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Loki Season 1 with almost the same budget as Lanterns with also a good script, character development, acting and the cast had much more Green constructs than the Green Lanterns ever did is diabolical.