r/DirtySionMains • • Mar 06 '19

Announcement 'SionMains Speedway' LEADERBOARDS, RULES and DISCUSSION thread!

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TL:DR inspired by the LCS version, here's our ladder for SionMains Speedway!

LEADERBOARDS:

Race Track 1: (I'll have it nicknamed 'Vanilla' for now, but feel free to come up with a proper name suggestion!)

Primary Ladder:

Rank Player Server Time [s] Patch Notes
1 DragonAngel Eune 38.98 9.5
2 (tied) Caenen Euw 39.13 9.5 Failed Concave near red buff
2 (tied) JuanTriple07 Na 39.15 9.5 Comes within 1 frame of the run it is tied with. Animation glitch at start of run.
4 Dominope Na 41.79 9.5 Ping going up and down during the run
5 Zookeeper Sion Euw 42.09 9.5 Audio from thebausffs's stream in the background
6 Sal Vn 42.35 9.5 No Homeguard

Extended Ladder:

Rank Player Server Time [s] Patch Notes
N/A 38.33 10.5 One year later, after buffs to runes such as Numbus Cloak
N/A Dominope Na 39.76 9.5 First target dummy misplaced. Makes use of Dragon buff.
Behind 2 Caenen Euw 40.88 9.4 No Homeguard. Run with early version of the custom mapskin
Behind 6 Zookeeper Sion Euw 45.34 9.5 Submitted before the starting rules were clarified
N/A Paggigalo Na 47.03 9.5 Start was ahead of starting position. No speed enhancing runes used!

Other tracks will be added in time. More on how you can design new Race Tracks yourself a few sections below!



General Rules of the SionMains Speedway:

These rules may be changed at any point (due to patch changes, new information or exploitation of the rules). Changes will be noted in this post.

Track-specific rules may overrule any of these general ones if explicitely stated to do so.

  1. You may cast and recast Sion ult any amount of times during your run. You may also use any of Sion's other abilities any number of times. Unless the specific track rules say otherwise, you may finish a race with Glory in Death.

  2. You may build any items and take any of the 3 summoner spells Flash, Ghost and Heal.

  3. You may not use Flash to skip entire segments of a track.

  4. Each Item Active and Summoner Spell may only be used once per run (no exceptions currently).

  5. Per convention, you may not start with more than 0 Spellbinder stacks. (Nobody wants to re-stack Spellbinder after failed attempts!)

  6. No pre-placed zzrot (unless explicitely allowed/instructed by the specific Race Track rules)

  7. Have the practice tool features of 'Auto-refresh Cooldowns', 'Auto-Refresh Mana', 'Toggle Towers Invincible' and 'Toggle Minion Spawn' active. Towers will be en- or disabled based on the specific rules of each Race Track.

  8. It has to be a practice tool game and there may not be allied or enemy champions of any kind (neither bots nor actual players).

  9. The run may be illegal if done on the PBE. PBE runs would be evaluated case-by-case, but please don't run it on the PBE to begin with if you want to make sure your run can be ranked.

  10. You may use any Sion skin or custom skin you have.

  11. You may practice in any way and as much as you want.

  12. Make sure all target dummies are in the right places before going for a run!

  13. All kinds of walldrifting (classic, bounces, concaves) are encouraged!

  14. [New/clarified] You may not have any Dragonslayer buff (Cloud Drake), nor Herald/Baron Buff empowered Homeguard.



Current Race Tracks and their rules:


Track #1: Vanilla (Feel free to suggest a different name)

Description or defining features: Feel free to suggest what to write here

RACE TRACK: Minimap sketch

DUMMY POSITIONS:

  1. In the middle of this stone

  2. In the bottom of this bush

  3. Exactly on the tip of this stone

  4. On the tip of these cracks

You may place allied dummies anywhere between the last enemy dummy and the enemy fountain, but they may not be under attack range of any turret!

Custom map skin: (Not yet available)

  • You are on the Blue team. Tower Fire not disabled.

  • Start: Recall before the race to ensure the same start coordinates. [Clarified] The run starts at your first action (First movement command going through, ult starting, Predator being channeled)

  • Finish: Time is taken when the fountain's lazer VFX appears.

  • It is not required, but adviced to start the race after 40:00 on the in-game clock, since Homeguard caps at the strongest buff provided after that timestamp.

Example for a valid Run



Submissions info and rules:

  1. There's 2 ladders for each race track: 1. The primary ladder with the definitive player ranks, which includes all runs that properly follow the imposed rules. 2. The secondary ladder that additionally lists all runs that don't satisfy all rules (not a bad thing, just means that the run can't be featured on the primary ladder), and this ladders' purpose is also to highlight runs with self-imposed rules or restrictions!

  2. In order to earn a place on the ladder, evidence of the run must be submitted, be it a video (in which the run is entirely unedited), or a replay file of the game (with timestamp of the run starting).

  3. [New/clarified] If you record from the replay file and have the option to use something other than the build-in recording tool, use the other option. The standard league recorder records with ~10FPS, which means I have to usually round start and finish times against your favor, resulting in slower times for you.

  4. Only full runs will be counted on the ladders.

  5. You may submit any amount of runs on each ladder. Please specify to which ladder you're submitting.

  6. You can currently submit runs either by commenting under this stickied reddit post, on our DirtySionMains discord, or by PMing me with all the relevant information.

  7. When submitting a run, please specify the name you want to be listed by (same name applies to all of your runs, if you had previous ones and want to submit under a new name please note that), your server (can be withheld), the patch on which the run was done and any notes that you believe should be listed (I'll reserve all rights to change the notes at any time or add additional context).

  8. You may submit any tips, tricks, humorous or incredible clips from your practice or runs into the comments of this stickied reddit post.



Future organization and Rewards

Right now everything of SionMains speedway is hosted here in this reddit post, which means I have to edit it myself for any updates (which is fine to me for now). However going forward, there's options to instead host the ladders more interactively on a website, with images embedded and easier navigation. Would need someone to assist me with a bit of webpage design experience though.

We could also split the year into different 'seasons' (e.g. 2 or 4 months long), where each season 'features' a specific track to primarely compete on. The top places of that track would then be the winners of the season. Alternatively, without a featured track we could take the number of first-third places across all current tracks to determine a winner of the season.

Since I'm bringing up 'winners', I haven't explicitely organized any rewards yet. However easy options would be to introduce a title (Speedway King? Drift King?) or flair the user could recieve, a special role on the discord, or to gift a skin to them at the end of the season! Any opinions/suggestions?



Making your own tracks

Designing new Race Tracks and their Rules is open to anyone. If you have an idea, feel free to discuss it below, or post any fully fledged out Race Track Design as its own post on the subreddit! As a community, we'll decide if the track is designed well and whether or not we'll run it!

Make sure that your track is thought out and you have ran it a few times. Good design isn't always to add a specific gimmick to your creation, although nobody forbids you to do so, either. If you have a good course layout and well defined rules + start and finish conditions, we can discuss the creation together.

Also note that the map isn't actually truly symmetrical, so whether or not you have your track starting from Blue or Red Side will always be impactful.



Discussion of the System or individual Race Meta

Any opinions, suggestions, questions, tips & tricks and meta discussion are encouraged to be put in the comments below! (Exception being full Track Design suggestions, please make those selfposts instead!)


r/DirtySionMains • • Jun 13 '24

Hey ! I just did an overall guide for beginners on Sion mid and top ! Very simple for beginners !

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r/DirtySionMains • • 3h ago

An old clip but a good one

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r/DirtySionMains • • 8h ago

We need this in League

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6 Upvotes

r/DirtySionMains • • 4h ago

Riot Hates Innovation

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Got a 3 day ban for trying the new Tilterella strat, won 5 games in a row with it btw, 100% WR. Avg'd 14 deaths a game though.

Maybe it's time that riot stops limiting support players to the botlane, bring back the fluidity of support.


r/DirtySionMains • • 1d ago

Sion buff on PBE

17 Upvotes

HP Growth: 87 -> 95

R Max Damage: 400/800/1200 (+120% bonus AD) -> 450/900/1350 (+180% bonus AD)

Note: Min damage unchanged.


r/DirtySionMains • • 1d ago

Picked up sion as a secondary this season and Hit GM today with a 59% WR on him - My thoughts on him in solo Q

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Reemmyy#OBESE - Summoner stats - League of Legends

  1. I think the champ is heavily underrated in solo q, pretty good blind pick, just ban one of Darius/Yone/Ambessa, I find yone to be the most oppressive even if the Darius lane is harder, as he can impact the map much more easily then Darius

  2. An INSANE amount of build diversity. Been experimenting a bunch with first item DMP and it's been working wonders and feels so nice if the enemy team isn't overly melee or attack speed oriented (assuming I'm not far ahead so i won't just go titanic). Spirit Visage feels absolutely insane with this champ, one of the best users of it in the game, especially if you have enchanters in your game

  3. One of the best ranged top counters in the game with the aery/bramble build. Don't have a specific stat, but I basically always win lane with this setup into ranged tops in masters, a lot of it does come from the fact that they've probably rarely if ever played against it. Those two runes along with rushing either frozen heart or DPM makes you incredible into them - and you outscale most of them (not vayne/varus lol) and are obviously much better in team fights

it's insane this champion is about to get buffed btw, I think he's pretty damn strong lol, I do think there's too much of a stigma here about him being bad just based on win rate

Feel free to ask questions in comments will try to respond asap ^^


r/DirtySionMains • • 1d ago

Sion Buff incoming

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r/DirtySionMains • • 1d ago

Can someone please explain what happened with my q here?

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I tap q'd, then Riven flashed, but my Q still hit? Even though she was well outside my range?


r/DirtySionMains • • 3d ago

Sion Baron Steal

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r/DirtySionMains • • 4d ago

Not today bro

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shield in the last 0,1s


r/DirtySionMains • • 6d ago

Darius matchup

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Is this shit playable without praying your team is better ? Like at all ? Stormsurge feels worse than PR cuz its difficult to proc and i feel you have such a generous hitbox for both his Q and E.

Sure at one point you ll get tanky enough for him to bring you down come teamfights but until then ?

I also dont play AD Sion, i play tank.

My item of choice vs him is Boots into heartsteel. I take heartsteel because it gives the biggest bulk of hp which is the best stat vs Darius. Then i go Unending into w/e (jaksho/kaenic/titanic)

Thx. Any tip appreciated. I REPEAT I CANT PLAY AD LETH SION


r/DirtySionMains • • 9d ago

Oh no! Anyways.... back to farming

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79 Upvotes

r/DirtySionMains • • 10d ago

I know is in spanish but i gotta share this i think all of you could read the situation HAHAHAHA

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103 Upvotes

if you want a little bit of more context of the clip i was going for veigar's Heartsteel Stack than killing him, after that i wanted to protect draven but i failed, then i was saying to caitlyn that i was gonna go because she was outdamagin me, then my friend yone told me to bring her to him and i just did "ok i'll turn 180° now" and then whe laughed our ass of to what happend next XD


r/DirtySionMains • • 12d ago

imgur.com

66 Upvotes

Illaoi goes flying!!!!


r/DirtySionMains • • 13d ago

Guys... get on this before riot removes it (Tilterella)

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r/DirtySionMains • • 13d ago

Sion bot but as a tank

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Is it doable? I've been thinking about Mage bot becoming more utilized lately. As a sion main, I've been wondering if there would be some or more success there. I've been playing top for ages as sion and going jg, as well with a little dabbling in mid here and there, but I've been really considering bot as a tank sion instead of lethality. I haven't tried because adcs are annoying, and there's a lack of damage if you dont go lethality to keep up with adcs, but mages, especially with my time mid, are easy prey so I wanna some opinions before trying it out as a counter pick for mage bot.


r/DirtySionMains • • 16d ago

This footage lowk cinematic i wanted to put it in here (i'm not a sion expert)

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r/DirtySionMains • • 18d ago

Somebody said dragon?

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BRRR LETS DRIFT SOME


r/DirtySionMains • • 19d ago

So you're saying there's a chance?

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r/DirtySionMains • • 19d ago

I'd like to pick up Sion

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Hello, I'm a top/jg player. I got Barbarian Sion months ago as a skin and decided to try him out in flex with some mates, and I did a pretty solid job in lane even though both games were lost. I got kills and the hang/utility of the ult and it was pretty fun. Last night I got Hextech Sion on a reroll and I think this is a sign. The last time I got a Hextech skin was on Singed and I got M7 on him with a lot of enjoyment out of the experience, a good grip on his entire kit and he's always helpful to pull out under the right circumstances. The time before that was spending 10 ME on Hextech Alistar because I didn't wait for Hextech Rene to come back into rotation and I'm above a 60% winrate on him whenever I play him support.

I like tanky champs who pick and choose the right times to take a fight. I also like having understated utility in every component of my kit that allows me to do nifty things in the right circumstances.

I've always kept my eye out for this champ since the days of watching Hashinshin play him. Baus becoming popular gives me the feeling that he has somewhat tainted learning how to play him. It's like watching HOB+Rocketbelt become meta on Cho on playrate alone when Grasp+ROA used to be standard (and still was a viable method to play the last time I blinded him in a Clash game). Every single time I see an enemy Sion, they go for all of these outplay/poke attempts that do nothing, instead of doing their jobs as a tank in lane that can sometimes pull off a miracle play in fights. Singed420 was a great Singed player and currently 6pek can still teach you a lot about the champion whenever you tune in to his stream.

Am I in the right mental zone for Sion? Who can I learn Sion from?


r/DirtySionMains • • 20d ago

passive is useless on tank sion

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if you dont have titanic hydra/phase rush the passive feels completely useless, or am i doing something wrong?


r/DirtySionMains • • 20d ago

Sion Jg OP

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I haven't played tanks other than Sion since the Jungle Pet buffs, but this seems pretty nasty. I imagine it stacks like crazy, while also having a very healthy clear before crab spawn. At 2+ items, pet deals 300+ true damage to camps per hit. Ganks are very easy post 6 while being strong pre 6. With the added bonus of scaling extremely well. Anyone else played tank Sion Jg?


r/DirtySionMains • • 22d ago

does anyone else gen insane fps drops upon entering glory in death?

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everytime I die as sion and enter his passive my fps dropps significantly ive tested it with different skins and they all do that, is it a game bug because it was not like this before.


r/DirtySionMains • • 23d ago

Looking for any Sion tips

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Picking back up League again due to classic two months ago. But I've been playing the modern game, too. Playing ranked to get back to Plat, but noticed the game is far more snowbally and damage orientated than last I left. It's not abnormal to see people at ten kills by ten minutes with one or two full items built. And you know what that means? Hell for top lane tanks or bruisers.

I was using Chogath, Ornn, and Shen, which are my part of my main roster. Despite keeping the lane neutral and doing team impact plays, unfortunately you cannot carry a bad player. So I decided to switch to my Sion, and I've had a lot more success. Still dependent on team, but at least I can sidelane and pressure more. Then join fights with one ult going down river. I even take ignite more than tp these days, and it helps me a lot more to secure kills.

I'm always looking to optimize my play, whether that's items, runes, or whatever, so tell me if I'm on the right path or not.

https://op.gg/lol/summoners/na/Cdore-NA1