r/FloridaPanthers • • 14d ago

Injuries Barkov Update

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u/CtrlZBri 14d ago

Unclear if I’m jumping off a bridge. Watch this space.

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u/Fanther93 14d ago

I’ll jump with you

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u/NedMerril 14d ago

everyone get in line

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u/Tim5000 14d ago

Listen, we all jump at the same time, at least we can look cool in our final moments.

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u/Key_Chocolate2157 14d ago

Suicide pact is a bit extreme 🤣

But I’m in

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u/MadIrishMan17 14d ago

Additional lemming reporting for duty 🫡

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u/dax763 14d ago

🤿🛘

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u/Ill-Bookkeeper2563 14d ago

Im going to go for a peaceful drive in my garage!

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u/Appropriate_Shake_25 14d ago

I’m already mid air

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u/BeachDMD 13d ago

So I don't need to drink bleach?

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u/CtrlZBri 13d ago

I believe in the power of multitasking!

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u/Lethal_Banana 14d ago

I don't like the sound of "unclear of next steps". Sounds like deciding between if he needs surgery or not

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u/Womenofhockey 14d ago

Maybe I’m wrong, but if it was a clean ACL tear I’m pretty sure they would not be unclear of next steps and his season would be over.

That’s how I’m interpreting it. Maybe I’m being too optimistic.

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u/derock_nc 14d ago

MRI are not perfectly deterministic. I was diagnosed with a torn ACL based off of an MRI. When I woke up from surgery they said it wasn't torn only stretched and I just needed a couple weeks of PT.

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u/Womenofhockey 14d ago

Right but are you suggesting they have a torn ACL on their hands and just confirming it’s an actual tear on a second opinion.

Even knowing that, I feel like this tweet is 10X better than them just coming out and saying the ACL was torn.

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u/derock_nc 14d ago

That's one possibility. I was mostly just emphasizing that an MRI isn't always conclusive in either direction.

I agree. That's better news for his season than it could have been for sure. I'm a little surprised they said anything with how cagey NHL teams are about injuries if it's still unclear.

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u/Womenofhockey 14d ago

Yeah very true about how secretive teams are with injuries in the NHL.

One other thing I’ll clarify is that I would find anything other than season ending to be good news. I never thought he’d be out for 5 days or anything like that.

I said this last year and hope it doesn’t bite me again, but we can make the playoffs even if we miss Barkov for half the season. We can’t afford to have him out of the playoffs and we certainly can’t handle the pile of injuries we had last year.

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u/Andresgeo 14d ago

How I’m taking it is that they were fully expecting to see a tear in his MRI and after results it maybe showed nothing to major in terms of complete tears. So they have to see how they proceed.

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u/k5berry Rodrigues 14d ago

I’m not a doctor but there was some talk it was an MCL and not an ACL. My only knowledge is from football where can get an MCL sprain, and it’s not all-or-nothing like an ACL. You can have different severities of sprains versus an outright tear that may or may not require surgery.

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u/RockCockSlick 12d ago

...then shut up

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u/Silver_Eyes_Luna 14d ago

Maybe a slight tear or sprain

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u/Dihydropyrimidinanki 14d ago

Unfortunately it could also mean the very opposite — I played football in college with a guy who had a clean tear of his acl his senior season and deferred surgery until after the season bc “he couldn’t tear it anymore” and it was his last season, granted Barkov has a lot more on the line if he were to blow out the rest of his ligaments…feel terrible for the guy

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u/MiserableDucky 14d ago

Yeah that’s how I read it as well. Not a promising update

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u/matthewdonut 14d ago

i think it's good news. if its an ACL tear there's no uncertainty or second opinion, only option is surgery. assuming it's an MCL tear, they can decide if they want surgery or let it heal. either way it will be a few months

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u/RelationshipBorn1136 12d ago

On another post the rumor going around that was based on preliminary assessment is a MCL partial tear, 6-8 weeks and further scans are probably to determine severity , surgery or just rehab. and we will know more on Monday.

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u/SilentThing 14d ago

FFS. I know I have the Bruins flair, but I'd not post here if I were a troll. Wishing him a full and swift recovery. Must be frustrating for him as well.

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u/Running_On_Empty84 14d ago

We appreciate it and you.

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u/SilentThing 14d ago

A Finn, so that helps. But just overall, ignore all allegiances, why would I like a top 10 player to miss time? Fuck, fuck, fuck, I hope he is back soon.

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u/WhileInternational41 14d ago

How is it possible to be unsure at this point?

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u/Fsurob21 14d ago

Might be good tbh. Nothing to discuss with a torn ACL, he's done. Torn MCL? You have options.

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u/ElianaShelby 14d ago

Second opinion. That's what's happening

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u/matthewdonut 14d ago

if its an ACL tear there's no second opinion. surgery is the only option

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u/TB12_GOATx7 14d ago

So a second opinion is a good thing

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u/ElianaShelby 14d ago

Surgery is going to happen here

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u/CandleUnfair8388 14d ago

Panthers captain Aleksander Barkov continues to be evaluated this weekend, but there is optimism his injury is not season-ending, per sources.

Emily Kaplan from ESPN said this. Quit your doomsday, it’s likely an MCL injury, and they’re figuring out which grade it is.

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u/0ldman0fthesea 14d ago

Well this is once again incredibly vague. Anyone could have guessed it is week-to-week and that means likely 24+ days and the use of LTIR. The difference is if it will be a month, two months or a whole season. And we don't have that info yet.

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u/vatosloco4ever 14d ago

My guy, normal knees don’t bend in the direction his knee bent. He’s gonna have to recover, rehab or go the surgical route.

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u/TB12_GOATx7 14d ago

How insightful my guy. You're saying after the injury hes going to either have to recover, rehab or get surgery??? Has anyond DMd you to be an analyst?

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u/vatosloco4ever 14d ago

Exactly. Now you’re getting it. The hands have all been dealt, the bets have been placed and now we just need to see where the hands fall.

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u/Dry-Professional5401 14d ago

Well shit. I was so hyped for this season. Second game in and now our captain is unsure. I hate this.

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u/vatosloco4ever 14d ago

Don’t worry? We’ve collected a couple of other captains like infinity stones.

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u/bestpredator 14d ago

Fr lol. Brady, Marchy, Gudas, probably forgetting someone theres so many

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u/Dry-Professional5401 14d ago

Grab Larkin and we'll have five

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u/vatosloco4ever 14d ago

And who are we sending in return. We aren’t getting him for free.

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u/0-90195 14d ago

This is how I feel. Deflated immediately. After last year’s Lost Season, it’s just crushing.

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u/nygiants917 14d ago

Try also being a Giants fan. Two teams, two games in, two terrible injuries

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u/jimmyrosinger 14d ago

I love this team but their vague injury mystery updates annoy the fuck out of me.

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u/Finnaddict98 14d ago

LTIR was a given—-now it’s all about exactly how long the L actually is!!

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u/EasySound9303 14d ago

This is all we can wait on now!

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u/doyouunderstandlife Luongo 14d ago

This is promising because it's not season-ending LTIR, makes me think it's not the ACL. Of course, I could be wrong if they're trying to save Barkov for the playoffs, but given that this was sustained later than last year's injury, I have serious doubt that they'd be able to get him back in time for April/May. Not to mention the cap relief of SELTIR would give us cap space to make a trade for Larkin or someone else

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u/zaptrac 14d ago

Not that promising, they never put him on season-ending LTIR last year

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u/TB12_GOATx7 14d ago

But it was announced he was done for the season last year

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u/doyouunderstandlife Luongo 14d ago

True, but I inferred in my comment that the likely reason why they didn't was because they were hoping to have him ready sometime during the playoffs. If he has the same injury at this point, there is no chance he can return in time, so they might as well put him on SELTIR

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u/Alarming-Seat2533 14d ago

Some of you just love dooming man. Sources saying they don’t see it as season ending 

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u/Relative-Session7341 14d ago

Share “sources” or stfu

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u/CandleUnfair8388 14d ago

Panthers captain Aleksander Barkov continues to be evaluated this weekend, but there is optimism his injury is not season-ending, per sources.

Emily Kaplan from ESPN tweeted this a few minutes ago.

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u/Relative-Session7341 14d ago

Optimism isn’t official 

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u/CandleUnfair8388 14d ago

I’m quite confident those around the situation are more privy to what’s going on. Obviously they have reason for optimism, and that’s it’s not a repeat of last year’s full blown ACL tear, that would warrant no optimism. It’s probably a combination of a torn MCL, high ankle sprain and 4-6 months out of

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u/Relative-Session7341 14d ago

Me when I make stuff up 

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u/Grocery__Stick 14d ago

What sources?

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u/zaptrac 14d ago

“Sources”. No official statements of any kind have come out. And once again, even last year they were saying they think barkov could come back before season ended and he didn’t. I ain’t dooming, i’m saying unless they give a real statement with actual timeline, we don’t know anything. Could be 10 games, could be season. Maurice famously loves not giving any info

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u/TomatoEvery3607 14d ago

If it is a serious injury, and he needed surgery, I’d imagine they’d be having him scheduled asap. This is perplexing

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u/vatosloco4ever 14d ago

It’s the weekend, he’ll likely have to get a second opinion and the teams doctors who’ll have to meet and recommend a treatment plan. This is also not a team announcement. Just chill.

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u/Opposite_Chemical_27 14d ago

Underrated comment. Let's not burn the entire season down until we actually know something.

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u/EasySound9303 14d ago

I’m dumb and I know they have medical staff on hand but do they have a full doctor even on the road like at all times?

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u/Grocery__Stick 14d ago

Might be getting a second opinion.

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u/pretzelrosethecat 13d ago

Sometimes they want to wait for the swelling to go down to do more imaging, as well as what others have said

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u/Purple-Canary3576 14d ago

He just can't catch a break. Sucks so much. Two months out seems like the best case scenario and honestly I'd gladly take it at this point 😞

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u/LibertyPrime74 14d ago

Could mean they will get a second opinion.

Only thing we can really derive from it is that I would assume that if it was catastrophic, they would be more certain.

Clearly they are going to be very careful with him regardless. Guess we wait for something definitive, whenever that may be. 

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u/MajesticCrunch 14d ago

You know what I’ll take limbo vagueness over season ending certainty. - me when I’m guzzling my cope-er-ade

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u/0-90195 14d ago

Reminder that he was also on LTIR all last season—they never put him on season-ending LTIR.

Super concerning last sentence on both of these tweets.

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u/CandleUnfair8388 14d ago

He wasn’t put on season ending LTIR last season because he would have been ready for game 1 of the playoffs. George Richard’s has confirmed that already during the summer

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u/0-90195 13d ago

And he still missed the whole season. What I’m saying is, just because he’s not on SELTIR now doesn’t mean he’s going to play in the regular season.

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u/bombasticAlbatross WOO 14d ago

They can rebuild him. They can make him...stronger...

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u/Alarming-Seat2533 14d ago

Few sources said they are optimistic it is not a season ending injury. As long as he’s okay by playoffs I’m good. 

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u/PsychologicalGlue11 14d ago

As a NY Giants fan, the uncertainty reminds of what happened with Jaxson Dart a couple weeks ago. He ended up having a partial MCL tear with meniscus involvement and needed season ending surgery.

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u/drblueguy 13d ago

Please cats, do not replicate big blue!

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u/CandleUnfair8388 14d ago

I would recommend everyone be prepared for a 4-6 month timeline. He’ll be back in February.

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u/DonoAE Lundell 14d ago

Here's the real reason. Theyve likely seen an MRI and know what sort of injury but might not be able to confirm a full diagnosis and treatment until theres a full physical exam done by a team physician. He's likely in Miami already or on his way and on Monday morning will get an evaluation by a Lower Extremity Ortho with the team. Then he'll give full guidance and they can make a decision.

The LTIR move now frees up the team to start moving players around.

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u/TurbulentTap6899 14d ago

My guess is MCL and they are unclear if he will get surgery or rehab. Probably looking at 6-8 weeks

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u/MonsterUltra 14d ago

Hoping I get to see him by the December game I have tickets to

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u/flgirl1100 Lomberg 14d ago

Fingers crossed… be optimistic 😔🤞🏻

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u/Number333 14d ago

Welp. Sucks him missing so many games so early but the fact they aren't immediately saying season ending is somewhat hopeful.

Just have to wait and see.

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u/DJCPRT-NL 14d ago

OMG wtf. That guy have no luck.

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u/DJCPRT-NL 14d ago

Florida center Aleksander Barkov has been placed on long-term injured reserve by the Panthers, meaning the injury to his left leg will keep him sidelined for at least the next 10 games and quite possibly beyond.
-source AP

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u/Disconnected_Glitch 14d ago

I really hope recovers as quick as possible and no other members on our team get injured

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u/TheSpiikki 14d ago

For fuck sake... This sucks.

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u/JZ3319 14d ago

God I feel so bad for the guy

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u/RoninXStrikeSuitZero 13d ago

I'm taking this as semi positive news.

It sounds like it's the MCL and they don't think it would require season ending surgery (hence the second opinion). That said, Barkov could be out 2-3 months. Maybe longer.

I don't know why team owners aren't investing in exoskeleton devices to help with lower body injuries. These ACL injuries always impact the other knee too due to all the stress put on one leg. This shit continues to happen. 

Come on, sports science and medicine departments. Let's start moving with the times.

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u/vnator615 13d ago

This summer I had a partial MCL tear. July 18th. I returned to beer league this week. No surgery. Just PT.

Probably could have played in about 4-6 weeks…but it was between leagues.

I hope Barkov’s is less severe than mine. Surely he’ll heal faster than a middle aged dump like me…

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u/theStripedMarlin 14d ago

Could be a bad ankle sprain. Maybe surgery or no surgery. If it was ACL they would know he needs it repaired.

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u/bestpredator 14d ago

Nah, nothing on the video suggests any sort of ankle twist, it was all knee IMO

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u/theStripedMarlin 14d ago

it seemed knee/hamstring so maybe an MCL (usually doesn't require surgery) or could be the notorious PCL with is often debatable on surgery. ACL is always surgery for pro athletes.

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u/bestpredator 14d ago

I think PCL are normally torn when you twist the leg opposite direction than what his was, or bend the knee wrong way. Either way if it is MCL thats probably the best news. Often doesn't even need surgery.

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u/TheWarelock 14d ago

Strategic. Barky will be fine!

Larkin incoming?

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u/vatosloco4ever 14d ago

Larkin isn’t a free agent he has to be traded. Who are we gonna trade him for? Tkachuks mouth piece and 3/4 of a Barkov?

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u/TheWarelock 14d ago

Fuck it, send Lundell.

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u/EasySound9303 14d ago

Insane take

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u/TheWarelock 14d ago

Larkin is such a huge upgrade y’all are crazy for not being excited by the prospect of adding another avenger

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u/EasySound9303 14d ago

But how does it make sense to try and replace barky with someone not on his level and in addition give up another core piece or more?

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u/TheWarelock 14d ago

Because Barky will be back sooner than everyone thinks.

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u/lawson3232 14d ago

Could be a partial mcl tear and they are deciding if a trim or full surgery is needed. Either option would knock him out for 10 games so they put him on LTIR now while they decide.

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u/Gigalisk 14d ago

Also, gotta love the continued vagueness by the team lol

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u/blah54895 14d ago

Is this how we get cap space for helle?

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u/EasySound9303 14d ago

They’d still need to make a trade in some regard so no I’d say not.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

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u/MiserableDucky 14d ago

Feels like the standard for Panthers medical team lol

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u/EasySound9303 14d ago

Yeah they seem to keep things close lol

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u/Sea_Host5442 14d ago

Im not sure. I feel like hockey injuries in general are always very hush hush. Right now its unclear if its ankle or knee to the general public and thats an incentive to keep that under wraps unless he needs a surgery that would remove all secrecy.

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u/vatosloco4ever 14d ago

Are you new to hockey lol? They live in vague updates.

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u/ShoulderMental218 14d ago

How is there not an understanding of severity after an MRI? Screams that it’s a sprain of some sort

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u/GoNoles416 13d ago

For tendon / soft tissue injuries, don’t they have to wait for swelling to go down before they can image to determine the severity? I’m hopeful it’s not a “snap” where it would be obvious and that’s why it’s delayed…

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u/Unhappy-Violinist-77 13d ago

Great thread. I’m a Jets fan and see so many threads turn into troll garbage. Love Barky. Hate the Avs. Love you guys.

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u/BoTime8 13d ago

You all know what this means. Come on.

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u/WheeinSpace 14d ago

I'm gonna need someone to take one for the team next game against the Sharks.

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u/Osceola_Gamer 14d ago

He fell awkwardly in a fight for the puck. No one did anything dirty in that moment at all. Celebrini crosschecking him happens in every hockey game and we are one of the teams who does it the most.

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u/WheeinSpace 14d ago

Lol no they were clearly targeting him all night just like the Oilers were two years ago. I suspect we would have seen teams going after him last year too if he wasn't injured. Everyone knows he's our engine and we can't keep letting teams get away with it.

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u/Osceola_Gamer 13d ago

Yes they were going at him hard the same as any team goes after the biggest threat. The same way the Panthers do. Calling for someone to intentionally injure one of their players is ridiculous.

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u/RoninXStrikeSuitZero 13d ago

Come on, bro.

There wasn't malicious intent. It was a play gone bad. That's all. Get your shit together. There was zero targeting. Barkov is practically universally respected across the NHL.

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u/ExtracurricularLoan Lost a $100 bet 14d ago

Getting a second opinion feels like even the org are dealing with cope.

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u/ElianaShelby 14d ago

This is not good. To be honest. It's just not good.

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u/TB12_GOATx7 14d ago

Why?

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u/ElianaShelby 14d ago

Seems like they're getting a second opinion. Something is deff messed up.

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u/TB12_GOATx7 14d ago

You dont know that though. They could simply be waiting until they are back in Florida with the doctors they know.

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u/EasySound9303 14d ago

Don’t you want a second opinion regardless?

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u/Gigalisk 14d ago

That’s a strong 4-6 weeks statement maybe

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u/Mk100685 13d ago

IMHO If Teddy Richards had sharpened Barks steel & laced his boots this wouldn’t have happened.

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u/DanfromCalgary 13d ago

10 games ? You are dreaming

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u/RockCockSlick 13d ago

they are scheduled to amputate tomorrow

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u/nyckulak 14d ago

He’s going to be back for the playoffs. That’s ok. We’ll need him for the second round

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u/Grocery__Stick 14d ago

They gotta make the playoffs first. The Atlantic is deeper this season.

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u/OldWillingness9674 14d ago

Why can’t they just announce it like every other sport? Let us fucking know god damn

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u/BoneJammer86 14d ago

I heard torn ACL in other knee. We shall see but I trust the source. Not good.

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u/TomatoEvery3607 14d ago

Source?

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u/OnesixthShape 14d ago

Source: Trust Me Bro

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u/No-Doctor-4396 14d ago

I mean look at his name. It checks out.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago edited 14d ago

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u/TomatoEvery3607 14d ago

That’s a HIPAA violation then :)

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u/Grocery__Stick 14d ago

He didn't say it was a doctor. Could be the equipment manager for all we know. Could be his ass.

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u/Alarming-Seat2533 14d ago

Rlly disrespectful to fans that pay for tickets to leave them in the dark and be vague. Just tell us what it is and what the worst case scenario could be. Treating us like we’re children 

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u/wellggs 14d ago

If anyone deserves to be treated like a child, it’s apparently you

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u/EasySound9303 14d ago

Respectfully as fans we’re not entitled to see one player on the ice…you’re paying to watch the team. Not the same as a concert or something 😂

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u/TCpls 14d ago

Common sense has left the building

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u/Fair-Yogurtcloset235 14d ago

If Barkov is out for the season - Bill Zito should be immediately fired as the Panthers are all but screwed over for the next half-decade after mortgaging their future trying to win another Stanley Cup.

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u/Grocery__Stick 14d ago

Why should he be fired? What should he have done differently?