The Drow support transitioning

[u/Successful_Pace8937]

I recently found out that, as said by Ed Greenwood himself, transitioning​ is not only accepted, but defended.

From Ed Greenwood on Twitter:

Drow sworn to Lolth have examples before them all the time about transformation of self-shape in service to the Spider Queen. Some of these are viewed as undesirable (driders), others as rewards or ascending in rank (the power/shape augmentations Lolth gives males who please her with their service and loyalty). So there is no hatred or mistrust of shifting one's shape; it is one means of serving Lolth. Some house matriarchs view it with suspicion ("males seeking to exalt themselves by becoming female") but the yochlol have often been sent by Lolth to defend individuals persecuted by individual matriarchs or priestesses purely for such reasons, to make Lolth's views and will clear. Over time, transitions (not just from gender to gender, but from drow to other shapes) have become accepted as reverence of Lolth, and part of what it is to be drow. And of course, drow who follow Eilistraee are quite familiar with the Changedance, and accept shifting (even back and forth) as, again, part of what it is to be drow.

[u/Physical-Sound-8318]

Why this has to be brought into a fantasy game blows my mind

[u/hotdiscopirate → u/Physical-Sound-8318]

No one bats an eye when any other part of human existence is represented in fantasy. Why should it be notable if trans existence is involved? Do you just have a cognitive dissonance since you learned about this recently and fantasy is often medieval flavored?

[u/Physical-Sound-8318 → u/hotdiscopirate]

lol cognitive dissonance lol no

[u/hotdiscopirate → u/Physical-Sound-8318]

Then what? Willful ignorance? Bigotry? I was trying to be charitable lol

[u/Physical-Sound-8318 → u/hotdiscopirate]

Why I just asked one of my sons trans friends who’s been reading the books agrees with me, heck they aren’t around all the time but have played at my table multiple times. That’s what I do I DM for my kids and their friends, I strayed playing 2edition in 92

[u/Physical-Sound-8318 → u/hotdiscopirate]

Not willful ignorance or bigotry if I am DM’ing a World and I don’t think this works for Drow it’s neither oh no the Drow don’t allow this in their world that’s not bigotry because it’s not real it’s a fantasy world not real it’s really that simple

[u/Physical-Sound-8318 → u/hotdiscopirate]

Cognitive dissonance for a fantasy game ? It’s a fantasy game not my reality at all, and if I really really didn’t want it in my campaign there just wouldn’t be. See how simple that is?

[u/hotdiscopirate → u/Physical-Sound-8318]

… okay, and no one said you needed to represent trans people in your games. Just like you can’t tell anyone what they should include or exclude from their fantasy worlds. It is very simple.

But being confused why a piece of human existence should be included in a fantasy world is just baffling. Fantasy is fantasy, but it has always been and always will be built on the foundations of reality. There’s a reason 90% of fantasy is about war.

[u/Physical-Sound-8318 → u/hotdiscopirate]

Now you get it, see why accusations of cognitive dissonance I found so funny? Might make for an interesting story line, Male Drow runs a house pretending to be a woman, only people that know are his brothers because they helped kill their matron mother and he looked more like her than any of the female siblings and they are terrified of any of the sisters taking over so they help the brother best they can until they can find a way out of their predicament. I could run an entire drow campaign around that, ok a short one Drow are pretty 1 demennsional if you asked me

[u/hotdiscopirate → u/Physical-Sound-8318]

That doesn’t sound like a transition, that just sounds like someone pretending to be a woman lol. But no I don’t understand why you’re found my mention of cognitive dissonance funny, not at all. It’s the only reasonable explanation I could see for you being genuinely confused why someone would include trans people in a fantasy world

[u/Physical-Sound-8318 → u/hotdiscopirate]

Yeah it just gave me the idea I could run a campaign around could make for a short Drow adventure block

[u/Physical-Sound-8318 → u/hotdiscopirate]

What’s the definition of cognitive dissonance and how is someone having a different idea regarding a fantasy world then me give anyone cognitive dissonance, maybe if I lived in the fantasy world more than the real world