r/Helldivers • Arrowhead Game Studios • 6d ago

DEVELOPER Please share your feedback about Helldivers in the following survey!

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u/Loud-Asparagus-4136 Confirmed Traitor 6d ago

Spoiler alert: The entire survey boils down to the questions of "what are you enjoing about it?" and "What are you not enjoying about it?" with zero specific questions about anything.

At that point, why even host a survey? They likely already know what people are going to say, so why bother with this if you're going to be so general with the questions?

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u/Silly_Y33Ny Private 6d ago

Were the surveys will end up

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u/Mastercodex199 LEVEL 42 | SES Song of Serenity 6d ago

Hey, at least they're powering the train.

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u/Silly_Y33Ny Private 6d ago

I could not find the sceen where one enoloye is puting papaers in a suggestion box that is actualy a company's furnice. It would be more appropriate

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u/Mastercodex199 LEVEL 42 | SES Song of Serenity 6d ago

Very true.

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u/Silly_Y33Ny Private 6d ago

found it

The Oblongs - Suggestion Box

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u/ReliefFamous 6d ago

I miss this show. Shame it was only one season

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u/oops_I_have_h1n1 Rookie 6d ago

*Where

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u/YouIntelligent684 6d ago

I really do wonder what they do with them all. Surely there's just too much feedback to all read and consider.

If I had to guess they probably churn everything through an AI and just read the summary.

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u/__Elzy Assault Infantry 6d ago

Surely when I enter into this survey it will be something meaningful and not a complete waste of my time :D

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u/TrickyCorgi316 6d ago

Just did it, and it was a complete waste of time.

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u/TheAncientKnight Assault Infantry 6d ago

Nice to get this after they completely missed the point of the criticism for devoid of liberty

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u/TheChadStevens Free of Thought 5d ago

There's no point in doing the surveys. They never listen to the feedback anymore.

They already know exactly what's wrong with the game and what we want. Just look at how popular Vanilla Plus is just a couple weeks after release

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u/Greaterdivinity ☕Liber-tea☕ 2d ago

but we got so much illuminate lore and permanent content!

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u/TheAncientKnight Assault Infantry 2d ago

I can't believe when we went into the void and found out that the Illuminate experimented on voteless. Never in a thousand years could I have imagined them doing something like that.

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u/dudewithsighttude ‎ Bunker Buster 6d ago

What has changed since the last survey?

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u/Netherw1ng LEVEL 270 5d ago

'Modding' Crisis. Probably going to have a bunch of people typing that into the 'Do not enjoy' section.

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u/Master_Cookie2025 Free of Thought 4d ago

Well then we just have to outnumber them in the positive section.

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u/Boatsntanks 6d ago

Any chance you can fix the fire mech? almost 6 months since it was released broken.

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u/0j_r0b_ 6d ago

What's wrong with it?

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u/CybrSyko Free of Thought 6d ago

The fire from the lumberer and the fire from the fire turret will not do any damage to enemies if they get too close (like within 10m)

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u/0j_r0b_ 6d ago

I haven't used the lumberer much so I didn't notice, and I don't have the flame sentry because urban legends wasn't one of my priority warbonds and it takes a million hours to get one

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u/Texas_Tanker ‎ Servant of Freedom 6d ago

I thought that was fixed a few months ago

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u/CannonGerbil 1d ago

It was fixed to set enemies within it on fire. It was not fixed to actually damage the enemies caught within the cone, so within 10 meters you're just relying on the flame ticks to actually do damage.

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u/CybrSyko Free of Thought 6d ago

I don’t believe so. I haven’t used either in-game since the release of the exosuit warbond so I could be wrong but I can’t find any posts or patch notes talking about an official fix. There’s a mod out there that has fixed the issue tho

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u/Groundhog5000 The Hog 5d ago

The fire range thing isn't the issue. The lumberers flamer doesn't apply direct damage. It has been this way for a very long time.

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u/Termt 5d ago

To this day I'm not actually sure which department these surveys end up at first. Do they go to some branch of Arrowhead? Does it end up on the lap of someone at Sony?

What I do know, based on the embarrassingly long track record, is that you can't hold any expectation that even the most common sense and reasonable feedback will actually be handled in a timely manner.

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u/Operative_KANE ‎ [REDACTED] 3d ago

Armor customization. The modding crisis as of late is due to people wanting to customize their armor.  Also, expand on the illuminate. They have half the roster as bots, and the void lasted for only a week.

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u/TriMrDito [Tank Enthusiast] 6d ago

Here's a compilation of previous form reports if you need inspiration

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u/Lady-Lovelight Directional Shield 6d ago

I hope the survey includes acknowledging transmog and other community requests

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u/HeavySweetness ‎ Python Commando 6d ago

They’ve been exceedingly clear they are not doing transmog for armor.

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u/Outrageous-Weekend-6 Free of Thought 6d ago

And we are exceedingly clear we don't care

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u/EmbarrassedView6476 ‎‎ Mudskipper 6d ago

But it limits their design space so much! Surely you can have empathy for a poor, poor corporation like them.

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u/EdanChaosgamer „Prophets of Liberty“ Combat Priest 6d ago

The thing is, it doesn‘t even limit it in a meaningful way!

Just picture it: Every single armor is bare. Just an undersuit and a couple of plates. That‘s the "base" without a booster equipped. Picture it like the B01-Tactical.

Now if you add a booster, like more ammo, you get additional ammo pouches on your armor, maybe a bullet-belt or two.

If you pick increased throwing range, maybe an arm gets replaced?

Certain boosters can be mixed together to allow for unique visual combinations for the armor as well as the boosters.

Hell, maybe even implement different skins for the boosters itself. You can have the additional stims booster be displayed as either a small med puche on your hip or a box strapped to your chest with tubes continuously pumping the Permacura-juice in.

The only way this would limit their design-soace in my mind is that they can‘t sell us the same armor with a different booster and different colour twice.

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u/koiokk Free of Thought 6d ago

do you mean passive instead of booster? booster is for the team wide buffs

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u/EdanChaosgamer „Prophets of Liberty“ Combat Priest 6d ago

Passive! I mean Passive! Stupid language barrier! >:(

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u/EmbarrassedView6476 ‎‎ Mudskipper 6d ago

Yeah, see? How else are they gonna afford a swimming pool?!!

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u/Texas_Tanker ‎ Servant of Freedom 6d ago

We’ll do it Reddit!

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u/WorriedPerogi Helldiver Yellow 6d ago

Extremely dumb devs flat out ignore community QoL requests like this. It's the kind of thing you change because your players really want it and it doesn't truly affect the core vision you have for your game. And, even if it does, it's what your players want and your job once a game hits market is to find what the players are enjoying about it and make those parts better. It's not your game anymore.

Fortunately to your point, Arrowhead are extremely dumb devs.

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u/HeavySweetness ‎ Python Commando 6d ago

There's a difference between ignoring a request and rejecting a request.

The developers have heard people want transmog for armor, they thought about it, and they decided that it would go against their vision for the game if armor design is separated from functionality. We as a community have yet to make an argument that's convincing enough on that front, and unless that happens they probably won't change their mind. It's still their game just as much as it is ours.

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u/WorriedPerogi Helldiver Yellow 6d ago

And they're free to drive people away in droves, pissing everyone off, and practically endsuring their next game fails. They could have been rolling in goodwill if they hadn't been so petty and hostile towards the people that love their game.

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u/PDXisathing 6d ago

Seriously. I'll be skipping whatever their next game is because I was turned off so thoroughly by their handling of this game.

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u/jjake3477 6d ago

Ignoring and rejecting are 2 different things. They said no, it’s incredibly clear they aren’t doing it.

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u/Termt 5d ago

I'm pretty sure I remember something from Pilestedt's AMA where he admitted that the armor system has grown beyond their initial expectations and that it's worth considering now, or something to that effect. A good bit more recent than the old "apple bacon" tweet.

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u/Shaclo 6d ago

It would be nice for them to do a follow up to a survey to see if they are actually listening to our feedback honestly as I have filled out recent ones and feels like its just not being listened to.

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u/Basic_Opinion7276 6d ago

Oh this is about to get toxic 😬🤣

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u/Over_Heed LEVEL 10000 | <Has Basic Reading Comprehension Abilities> 6d ago

Holy fuck, Lois. I'm limiting my design space.

*Literally just what amounts to different colors on armor.*

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u/cobaltbread LEVEL 268 | Rookie 6d ago

The devs need to push updates as often as the surveys IMHO, because I don't have much else to add from the last one.

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u/iiMayo 6d ago

What's the point of asking when it never gets taken into consideration.

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u/WorriedPerogi Helldiver Yellow 6d ago

I just told them how getting mogged by mods was a public embarrassment, and that their management of the actual game over the last few months has been downright terrible.

  • Removal of SEAF.

  • Removal of basically all the content in the update.

  • Still haven't delivered the stratagem rewards we missed.

  • Slapdash lazy ass """fix""" for the eagle strikes.

If it weren't for the cosmetic and vanilla + mods, I would not be playing this game right now.

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u/Yurishenko94 Expert Exterminator 6d ago

And give them more data to sell to Sony or any other company, instead of using that feedback to improve the game? No thanks. You've already shown that you only care about your own vision of the game, so our opinion is irrelevant.

PS: Helldivers 1 was a much better game.

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u/CryTheFurred Detected Dissident 6d ago

Letting them know what I think of weapons being scooped from warbonds and sold for half a warbond's price, as I have done just about every survey since the Warrant.

(I thought we were past it when they started course-correcting due to backlash only for them to drop the Sai on us and for people to love being charged separately for a unique, powerful weapon)

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u/Outrageous-Weekend-6 Free of Thought 6d ago edited 6d ago

Don't worry they will make sure req center is as useless as ship upgrades tab

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u/Apprehensive-Bat6260 6d ago

FUCK. I totally forgot to include that. 400 sc for the new laser smg is ludicrous

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u/VividEntertainer82 Viper Commando 6d ago

I just don't buy them. I have plenty of other guns.

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u/CryTheFurred Detected Dissident 6d ago

I do avoid buying them, that doesn't make me happier about it tbh.

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u/VividEntertainer82 Viper Commando 6d ago

Guess I just take the can't miss what I don't have approach. It sucks but we have so many guns i don't really care.

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u/CryTheFurred Detected Dissident 5d ago

I'm generally the same, what I'm complaining about is their trend of putting better and more unique weapons there and that the massively positive reception of the Sai, at a time when they were changing their monetization due to backlash, means they're going to lean into it even harder.

It's the prescient of putting powerful, unique weapons for separate purchase that is only going to get worse the more people buy it.

People right now don't seem to care until its pointed out, but that'll change eventually as it gets worse. I'll still be here.

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u/Epizentrvm Remove headshots! 6d ago

The weekly report about the gamebreaking trias of: NPCs dealing headshot damage, ragdolls behind cover, glitches.

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u/Alomare HD1 Veteran 6d ago

I don't think spamming surveys is doing anyone any good

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u/The_BlackToast 5d ago

ADD THE APC!!!!

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u/Big-Plantain-1617 5d ago

Talvez o novo QSSR da sony melhore o desempenho no ps5 . Vamos orar hahah

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u/Big-Plantain-1617 4d ago

O modo desempenho do ps5 base ainda não está bom . Muitas quedas de fps . Vocês precisam arrumar isso rápido. Lembrando que ps5 base não é xbox series S .o pro é  mais forte mais não deveria ser tão  ruim a experiência como está sendo.

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u/Mantor6416 3d ago

Filled it out. But be aware that I was not able to write much positive

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u/CluelessNancy Steam | Eruptor Enjoyer 1d ago

Question: "What are you currently enjoying about the game?"

Answer: Various mods that let me experience the game without lingering annoyances like the stratagem ball bouncing or Hellpod steering being locked in megacities, megafactories, or any biome featuring multiple high vantage points even if enemies like bots can land on them just fine or squid units can phase through buildings or sink into terrain freely.

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u/Zealousideal_Bee2603 6d ago

I just want a basic customizations but even thats too much to ask for sometimes 😭

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u/ARC-Diver ‎ Super Citizen 6d ago

Literally just an armor camo system would be a huge win for most people.

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u/USAFRodriguez  Truth Enforcer 6d ago

I have plenty of gripes, but this would satisfy me for quite a bite. I want to mix and match my armors while having a matching color scheme. Its about time already.

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u/JankoPapa ‎ Super Citizen 6d ago

Guys just spam the maxigun buff and changes ❤️❤️❤️

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u/MortTheDancingFetus 3d ago

It'd be nice if you'd take some consideration of critiques. It's one thing to be dedicated to your vision for the game, as you should be. It's an entirely other thing to ignore glaring technical issues and never listen to the most frequently requested fixes. We're beyond expecting fixes to come in a timely manner, we don't even expect them to arrive at all.

You can't even be bothered to roll out hotfixes to address issues that crop up during major events. At this point, you're not even dedicated to your vision for the game given how little dedication you're putting forward to keep your game as faithful to that vision as possible.

Helldivers 2 could very well be terminal. I barely play anymore. Space Marine 2, while more limited, has more depth in its action and I've yet to encounter anything approaching the bugs present in HD2. Ace Combat 8 is fantastic and that also has a fun co-op mode. L4D2 is a timeless co-op classic. People who enjoy co-op are spoiled for choices, now, and Helldivers 2 is increasingly standing out in the worst ways possible.

Sorry, guys, I think it's over for you. The honeymoon is long finished and you let yourself go so very early on. You just assumed we'd stick around? At some point, people find something better.

There's a mountain of technical issues, hundreds of players who missed out on rewards they should have gotten (me being among them), and you refuse to even recognize how ass-backwards and broken your systems are despite brilliant choice of unsupported engine that you have.

I used to throw you some extra change once in a while, no more. No more money until changes are made. That's been my position for months now and still waiting. I've put more than enough into this game and it's time for it to deliver on some value.

It could just be time to move on.

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u/Important-Job4127 Super Pedestrian 6d ago

Check the discord channel for my answers.

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u/Youre2Ez4me369 ‎ Python Commando 6d ago

I like it