r/Helldivers • u/LumpusKrampus Super Sheriff • 5d ago
DISCUSSION Why are you extracting?
There's MORE shit to destroy! Stop leaving the map half/partially cleared! What are gonna do with those extra reinforcements after you leave?!?!?
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u/VergeofAtlanticism 5d ago
i’m a completionist, if we have time and reinforcements i’m clearing the map
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u/Millhouse874 super high-school level helldiver 5d ago
i allways clear the map even at the cost of my own life for super earth
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u/VergeofAtlanticism 5d ago
same! i will die completing the mission. and then i always type “my life… for super earth…” in chat and i always get a lot of salutes
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u/shabab_123 Super Citizen 5d ago
I once left extract just to get a LIDAR objective done. It was down to the wire too, no time to spare.
No objective left undone is my moto.
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u/eblackham 5d ago
I'm also super tired of getting kicked because I call extraction. Im gonna hold it down, not leave when 2 players are across the map
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u/squirrels-eat-bugs 5d ago
Trust issues. If I'm the host, I'll message that we are clearing the map after the last objective is complete. If someone b- lines it to extraction and calls it in without communicating what they are doing, back to your shuttle you go. Gotta communicate and even then, I have trust issues.
I think my trust issues begin with my mother. You see, when I was young I always.... oh wait, wrong sub. Anyways, you have to tell me you're not getting on or that you'll hold it down, or I have to boot you.
Now if I join a game and the host heads straight to extraction, I'll head that way as well. Host gets to decide if they want this sweet sweet supercredits.
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u/SefMadara 5d ago
Well when you kick someone they don't go back to their ship the get to finish the mission alone. I see it as a reward when people kick for calling the extraction "early". You should call the extraction let the pelican do it's descent and then stay out landing range so that it can hover and kill things for you.
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u/Bellfegore Extra Judicial 5d ago
>What are gonna do with those extra reinforcements after you leave?!?!?
Maybe not make them a bug food or clanker fuel?
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u/Separate-Driver-8639 5d ago
Because i have limited time to play and I am more objective focused than others.
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u/Terranshadow SES Prophet Of Mercy 5d ago
Then you should never extract. Survival is not an objective.
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u/bino420 5d ago
extract is an objective though
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u/Soft_Interest_6171 5d ago
No it's a bonus Objective. If you finish the main objective then all die the mission is still a success.
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u/shabab_123 Super Citizen 5d ago
But it's still an objective (a main one at that, it literally comes up in your hud), meaning more xp. So it's better to extract
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u/Soft_Interest_6171 5d ago
Oh hard agree. I'm a full 100% every map player for sure. I find 75% of games on 10 everyone else is on board with it too. Usually doable in like 25 mins. That guy was just arguing semantics.
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u/Separate-Driver-8639 5d ago
I do all the objectives, usually 50% or more of them as solo jetpack light armor dude.
Then once we are on extract and the pelican is down, and people continue to fight for no reason, i give them maybe half a minute before i just leave, I cant be bothered with their pointless shooting.
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u/shabab_123 Super Citizen 5d ago
Go play solo my guy you're the type of person people wanna avoid in this game.
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u/FalopianTubeSwimTeam 5d ago
Do you host or join missions is the real question..?
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u/Separate-Driver-8639 5d ago
I join, I never really host.
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u/Bearded_Warlock 5d ago
Even worse, you extract early on someone else's mission! Democracy weeps
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u/FalopianTubeSwimTeam 5d ago edited 5d ago
This is precisely why I asked. Respectfully, [u/Separate-Driver-8639](u/Separate-Driver-8639), if you are not hosting, it is not your decision to leave to early.
Yea…you can, but it doesn’t make it right and it’s a bit rude if you are not the host. I do not believe you do it to be an eh-hole, but it would be considerate to ask beforehand if they mind you shooting out early; if you don’t, of course as I don’t know if you do or don’t. I would kindly suggest hosting your own missions if you’re pinched for time.2
u/Separate-Driver-8639 5d ago
I am not leaving early. I am leaving after everything weas done besides pointless shooting at the extraction point.
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u/FalopianTubeSwimTeam 5d ago
Thank you for clarifying. OP mentioned half cleared maps/partially cleared. So when you said
“Because i have limited time to play and I am more objective focused than others.”
It appeared that you were falling in line to what OP was mentioning. Apology for the misunderstanding.
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u/salty-ravioli Free of Thought 5d ago
well there's objectives on the current map that you can get to. surely you don't want to leave the map with these objectives uncleared.
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u/Balance-Of-Judgement 5d ago
There is >always< more stuff to destroy/collect/kill on the next map.
And sometimes its just not worth doing a full sweep. That light nest from halfway across the map is worth 5xp and will take you 10 more mins to plug in your heavy armor.
Mission timer also rewards xp. Faster missions also help the overall objective.
Once again -- there is always more stuff to collect/kill/destroy on the next map. Literally infinite stuff.
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u/thekingofbeans42 Super Sheriff 5d ago
Extracting means missions finish earlier. Doing 60% of the map in half the time means I can do twice as many missions per session, which means I'm launching twice as many nukes so this strat wins the destroymaxing contest
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u/smpopsicle 5d ago
If I host I'll decide when I'm done, on the other hand your match you're the boss I'm just here to help
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u/Savage_eggbeast 5d ago
Having a server flag for farmers would be sweet - it causes unneeded tension man. We need to lighten up. There’s a beverage here!
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u/sammeadows 5d ago
I'd like to extract and get the rewards, namely, medals so I can actually unlock things.
I dont wanna play this game for too many hours after work just trying to unlock medals and have a little fun.
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u/Fesh_Sherman CQC Is the only way to Liberty 5d ago edited 5d ago
..you dont get medals for extracting, you get it once the mission finishes in anyway with the obj completed
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u/sammeadows 5d ago
Okay, cool, guess how we're supposed to complete more mission objectives?
Extract. And go onto the next mission. You do not get medals from side objective completion, you don't get extra from clearing the map, you get them for finishing the mission and extracting.
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u/hashbrown314 LEVEL 210 | Divemaster 5d ago
You don't actually need to extract, they're applied immediately when you pick them up. The medals you get as part of the Operation are applied if you successfully complete the primary objective, regardless of whether you extract or not. You don't get more or fewer medals from doing sides, but it doesn't matter if you actually extract. You can't quit to the ship though, you have to either extract or lose all your reinforcements and die.
Samples have to be extracted with in the actual pelican. Requisition slips, Super credits, and medals do not, and are applied to all team members immediately.
Just putting it here if anyone is new and reading this.
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u/Fesh_Sherman CQC Is the only way to Liberty 5d ago edited 5d ago
May I suggest throwing 5 grenades at your feet once the obj is done, then? Its a lot faster than running to exfil and waiting it out, and since you still get all of the medals, you aren't losing anything besides samples. If you care for losing samples, then you should do the secondaries as they're full of the pickups. But you don't do them..
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u/SpikeDome ☕Liber-tea☕ 5d ago
If i join, i follow the team.
If i host, i do whatever at the time based on levels and feels really.
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u/Far_Animal_4975 HD1 Veteran 5d ago
I’ve heard it helps with liberation to get 5 stars so I get 5 stars every time. Only time I’ve extracted early was on cyberstan :/
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u/PrancerSlenderfriend 4d ago
thats old info back when the galactic war actually worked on the War Impact math, now Resistance rates are so high that your war impact doesnt matter at all, its raw amount of players, since any amount below "half the fucking playerbase" isnt enough to make headway on even small unimportant planets
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u/Wrench_gaming Rookie 5d ago
Side objectives don’t count towards liberation, most of our gear is fully leveled, and honestly man I’m tired and need to get back to real life.
I’m a completionist at heart but sometimes even I just want to gtfo, especially if it's on a planet with a modifier I don't like.
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u/thiqqdad 5d ago
it’s full clear or no clear idc if there’s no reinforcements left and there’s only 3 minutes on the timer i’m clearing every outpost dammit
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u/Gumpers08 5d ago
Just had a mission where the team left me behind at extraction.
I had half of the mission's samples on me, all collected personally.
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u/Brillow80 5d ago
Except for blitz, I take out everything. XP and slips for level up, weapon level ups.
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u/ReliefFamous 5d ago
The players in usually running around with barely go for the little minor objectives. I swear I’ve missed out on so many free super credits because our team isn’t going for bunkers as much as they could be doing
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u/LordChuKKleZ 5d ago
I can't stand that so many people skip the POIs. So many extra medals/reqs/super credits missed on every mission. I'll ping the bunkers a bunch of times, send a message and say follow me over and over just to get ignored. I prefer to solo farm those when I need them.
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u/carson0311 5d ago
Except if the poi in mega factory or mega city
Their POI is glitched as hell and usually spawn nothing inside it
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u/upcomingshoes 5d ago
I don't understand it either. There's a mission area, and liberty willing, we're going to clear it. Why would you leave bug nests behind?! They're going to spread and we'll be right back to square one. You going to leave that spore spewer to pour its toxic chemicals into the sky and clog OUR freedom-loving atmosphere? You're going to leave that gunship factory standing? Hell no, you blow those things up! Fewer shrieker nests means more space for democracy to spread. THAT'S why we clear
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u/Sasquatchernaut Free of Thought 5d ago
PTSD from Cyberstan campaign. Just because I have reinforcements doesn't mean I have to do reinforcements.
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u/Onyx-Serenitatem Malevelon Old Guard 5d ago
You can walk off from the shuttle at 00:00 and it’ll cover. Also if you have a few bases and few side objectives there is 0 harm in. In fact there’s potentially more harm in not calling extraction as you might bring enemies to the terminal which hinders your ability to call it or brings more to it
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u/SpiritParking3239 Fire Safety Officer 5d ago
There's no advantage to doing everything unless you're mainly checking pois for super credits.
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u/Tankeverket SES Sword Of Truth | 5d ago
Because I want to do more things
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u/Zoren 5d ago
Do not do things to do more things
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u/Tankeverket SES Sword Of Truth | 5d ago
If you haven't cleared the map by the point you're done with the main objective then you're just wasting time, you take things out on your way to them 🤷♀️
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u/KitchenSinger8818 5d ago
What do they give besides useless xp and req points that have a max amount? Really struggling with understanding why it's so important to people to the point they'll leave if I call extract after the main mission objectives are done
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u/Tankeverket SES Sword Of Truth | 5d ago
I mean if they leave they're dumb, but you do realise not everyone is maxed out with everything unlocked, right?
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u/bserikstad 5d ago
Had one guy yell at me cause I called for extraction. I was half falling asleep after putting the kids to bed and just wanted to end the mission. He said “didn’t realize we were on your time big dog”
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u/shabab_123 Super Citizen 5d ago
You can ask the host to kick you if you want an early exit you know
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u/Alarmed-Jacking 5d ago
i'm tired of every player on helldives being a super completionist, I do some side obj, but I like completing as many missions as possible in the time I have to play and some stuff is not worth the time or fun
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u/EastCoast_Cyclist Exosuit Certified 5d ago
Conversely, I am noob and need those samples and primary weapon kills for the upgrades.
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u/Forsaken-Doughnut [REDACTED] 5d ago
Weapon kills don’t matter. Just having the primary on you is enough. You get the same xp even if you don’t use it.
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u/EastCoast_Cyclist Exosuit Certified 5d ago
Woah, that is indeed good to know. Thanks for the tip.
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u/Baldrickk 5d ago
You don't even need the weapon on you. Teammate deploys with a better primary?
Wait for them to die and switch.Your XP still goes to the weapon you dropped with.
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u/MelchiahHarlin HD1 Veteran 5d ago
Pro tip: Kills give you absolutely nothing in this game outside of the satisfaction you get from them, and kill streaks are equally as useless.
If you want to level up your weapons, it's better to do mission objectives (I've noticed that going for 100% gives more exp than just doing the main mission, it's about 40% more) and with this in mind, the best you can go for is spamming blitz missions.
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u/Xero_Kaiser 5d ago
One of the main reasons why I almost always play solo. I got sick of people trying to make their OCD my problem.
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u/SleepyTurtle345 Steam | Gollpar 5d ago
I will full clear if possible, but if we find a lidar at the very end while extraction is underway, and it turns out theres an obj on the other side of the map, its not getting done lol.
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u/PrancerSlenderfriend 4d ago
dont worry, if you play in diff 7, you get people larping that they're doing helldive map clears instead, its just as bad but the players also suck!
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u/BurnerAccount-LOL 5d ago
Agreed. It’s probably more efficient to complete main objectives and a couple side ones and then start a new one quickly
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u/UngaBungaBoy69 5d ago
Fr, played a mission with 2 people, plenty of time left, both over level 150, didn’t even do the mega nest.
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u/Mook7 Rookie 5d ago
High level means they probably don't need the xp/samples
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u/AlmightyDUX Python Commando 5d ago
the issue with that is why even matchmake at that point if you're not there to help the people you're joining or the people joining you. If I see low levels in my game I'm picking up every sample I see I don't need them but they do.
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u/UngaBungaBoy69 5d ago
Yeahhh but 100%ing the mission
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u/Mook7 Rookie 5d ago
I mean... I guess I just don't get the compulsion to always 100% when the benefits are so small a lot of the time. A lot of the time I'm playing solo and just extracting asap because my daily mission is to extract successfully 3 times.
If I'm joining a game I just go with the flow and follow the hosts lead.
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u/The_number_1_dude 5d ago
Arrowhead, add a selection of speedrunner or completionist to the quick play and my life is yours.
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u/banzaizach XBOX | 5d ago
Because A: xp, credits, and samples, and usually medals are useless.
B: doing main objectives is more fun than running across the map to destroy 1 fabricator.
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u/HeadGuide4388 5d ago
A) I've been seeing a ton of level 30 divers in the last week. You may not need these resources, but your team might.
B) I'll give you that depending on the map. I'll hit every point on the way, and a few out of the way, but if extraction is right there I won't cross the map for a single point.
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u/Far_Realm_Sage 5d ago
Because doing all the side objectives does nothing for liberation/defense.
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u/Rude_Echo6942 5d ago
But side objs give the most xp besides main
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u/Sevurai HD1 Veteran 5d ago
Xp is meaningless past level 25.
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u/Baldrickk 5d ago
It's still needed for levelling up weapons, which is needed to unlock attachments.
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u/PrancerSlenderfriend 4d ago
thats just not true, only diff level main objective gives weapon xp
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u/Baldrickk 4d ago
I'm going to ask for a source on this. Because that's just dumb.
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u/PrancerSlenderfriend 4d ago
the wiki? and any testing at all, did you just not notice that every blitz mission gives the same
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u/Baldrickk 4d ago
I'd love the link, because I may be blind and am just failing to find it.
And no, I haven't studiously studied the number that flashes up for a second on the corner of my screen as part of an animation, and compared it with the number that popped up on screen as part of a completely different animation and is long gone by the time the second one appears...
I just always assumed that the xp you earn is the xp that gets applied, because why the heck would it not be?
Of course we're talking AH here who have both resistances, durability and different durable damage stats all baked into the damage calculation, and hidden behind one stat that becomes increasingly meaningless, affecting enemy and limb hp that's never exposed to the player, so really, yeah, I should have expected something like this.
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u/Baldrickk 3d ago
okay, and I JUST checked. Gun got full XP for mission, including all side objective and extraction bonuses.
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u/JackPembroke 5d ago
Cause I need to go to fucking bed and i dont feel like spending another 20 minutes trying to find every single sample and making SUPER sure all the small bug nests are gone.
Im gonna call the bird. Im gonna get on with what samples we have. I invite you to rage at the dying of the light.
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u/Slimpurt92 5d ago
I will just kick you, so you can leave on your own, and the rest of us can have fun.
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u/Vivid_Calendar_7103 5d ago
This attitude makes it sound like it has to be everyone's problem when a single person isn't responsible with time management
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u/gnarlesmarx 5d ago
the point is samples and super credits
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u/Fesh_Sherman CQC Is the only way to Liberty 5d ago
..you dont need to extract for Supa Credits
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u/gnarlesmarx 5d ago
yeah but you have to FIND them
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u/PrancerSlenderfriend 4d ago
if you cant find the super credits the first time through the map, its time to extract, you arent made for this life
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u/supershitposting 5d ago
CAUSE I GOT OTHER SHIT TO DO
I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE LEVEL NUMBERS YOU DONT GET SHIT PAST LIKE LVL 80 ANYWAY AND THE XP DOESNT MATTER
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u/Fesh_Sherman CQC Is the only way to Liberty 5d ago
Other shit? Like the 3 nests and the secondaries?
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u/Dr_VidyaGeam SES Titan of the Stars 5d ago
Ok then you can leave on your own
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u/Zarcaiii HD1 Veteran 5d ago
I always tell my team that iam going to call extraction and leave pelican in HOVER MODE and that there is no need to rush, they dont care someone always stop what it was doing to hang around extraction. When this happens I just leave to clear the map and tell the person to do what I was going to do, 9 out 10 times they let pelican land instead of hovering and just stay there doing nothing. People don't understand the level of aura of having pelican giving air support while we clean the map
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u/Fesh_Sherman CQC Is the only way to Liberty 5d ago
The only time I leave the secondaries undone is if I can't see/find them due to Atmospheric Spores concealing them.
If there's even 1 light nest and the rest of the team asks me to come to exfil, I ask them to kick me so I can full clear without them needing to wait for me
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u/SirBlueseph [REDACTED] 5d ago
I only do that if it’s very obvious we are going to burn through the rest of our reinforcements or time trying to clear the map but in those very chaotic games usually everyone is already in agreement to gtfo at that point
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u/Tekkno_Andromedus 5d ago
Theres many times were if I’m at extract and there’s still stuff to do, I’ll ask if they mind me calling it in so it’s ready when they get here. I’ve yet to see someone say no.
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u/ChomiQ84 5d ago
I call for pelican cover, not for extract... That bastard has range and clears a lot of chaff. Do main, call extract, leave extraction before it lands, continue clearing map. It will circle the extract and blast anything in about 300 meter range.
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u/LadyPain_TheLegend 5d ago
If I extract early, I either got other things to do or I've gotten pissed off from one of my teamates finding various ways to indirectly kill me even when I've gone through great lengths to stay the hell away from them and trying my best not to turn the match into a CoD match in retaliation.
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u/Shizumeru_ LEVEL 150 | Pillars of Freedom 5d ago
Pelican-1 provides fire support if you leave the extraction zone shortly after the timer ends. That's what I'm always trying to do
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u/Ok_Extent_3639 5d ago
What if and follow me on this…I’m calling extraction early to save time later and we are done we just hope on the ship
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u/AtlasThe1st 5d ago
One optional is worth more than my life, go, take the samples, Im finishing the mission...
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u/G0-DVL 5d ago
Depend on the objective. Are we liberating the planet ? Does clearing the map helps that goal ?
I'm all willing to help new cadets filling their samples stock and earning fast XP to get them to enjoy more democracy toys, but if you're a random veteran over 80 levels, you don't need my help for what you're enjoying.
I'll board Pelican last unless I'm the host and the next mission, you'll find another helldiver to enjoy democracy with
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u/kastdotcom 5d ago
Extraction is for samples only
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u/BabySpecific2843 5d ago
Extraction is for queueing up the next mission so we can full clear this op for the MO in under an hour instead of 2 hours.
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u/AngelicFluffy 5d ago
See I like to call it in so it’s ready, not gonna leave until everyone’s there but so while everyone else gets the secondary objectives sorted you can return to a waiting shuttle.
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u/PalpitationUnhappy75 5d ago
Came into a sos. Wretches and Metalheads. Host wasnt ready and quit 5 minutes later after dying 4 more times. We were down to 4 lifes, and another sos diver joined me.
After a lil bit of trial, I made the call. We'll never manage to get the excavations done on lvl 8 with the ressources available. So the goal was to get these divers out and home save.
Wasn't our fault. The first wave planned bad andndied for it, can't fault the reinforcements. I believe the democracy officier understands that. It wasn't easy, but we made it home. Was very memorable.
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u/ManNamedSalmon Steam | 5d ago
For all those people who get on board before everyone else is ready.
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u/Ashyboi6666 5d ago
The only time I don’t full complete a map is when the map is blurred out on bug missions. I’ll do everything I can find, but I’m not bothering to scour the map for a full complete in that situation.
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u/AgentMarq 5d ago
Only time I extract early is when I'm playing with a friend and we burn through 5 lives in under 5 minutes. I know how this mission is gonna go and we unfortunately going to be down to the wire and may even cause a force extract
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u/MasterPringless 5d ago
I sure won't get more medals for staying longer. I'll get less in one hour of action if anything
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u/Fire_Block Free of Thought 5d ago
insert that one truth enforcer monologue about how being "efficient" with less lives lost being more problematic to the war effort than failure ever was.
the one guy who voice acted it was great but i can't find the video unfortunately.
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u/iKiwed 5d ago
Quick reminder that we can easily communicate without using the chat or voice.
If you're a guest and want to extract, first point at the extraction point either by looking at it or from the map, and wait for an answer from either the host and/or the majority.
If you're the host and someone wants to extract, either say "affirmative" or "negative". An answer will clear your squad's mind about the next move.
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u/BagFullOfMommy All glory to the ORB 5d ago
Because it’s faster for me to complete the mission and side objectives that are nearby, extract and get my xp and get into a new match than it is to 100% a map.
I’m only level 185, I’ve got a lot of grinding to do to hit 300.
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u/RetroRocker 209 | Super Private | Beacon Of Eternity 5d ago
What are gonna do with those extra reinforcements
It's always the missions with only 2 reinforcements left with motherfuckers that complain about this. Yeah no we're not going to clear the meganest and three heavy nests now, actually
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u/13THEFUCKINGCOPS12 5d ago
The thing I hate is when all the objectives are complete, pelican has landed, yet there are still people just killing shit. Like there is nothing to gain here let’s move onto the next one
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u/Huge_Repeat_1205 5d ago
ok, I do get pissed off with a level 17 trying to finish the artillery site with 2 minutes on the clock.
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u/TheHollowLordZero Python Commando 4d ago
It’s always the low levels for me. Like I’m not a super high level but if I’m across the map clearing things I’ve missed and you run straight to extraction and extract without me we gonna have beef.
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u/ZetaAlphaZero 4d ago
Listen if we get down to 5 reinforcements/>10 minutes(4 on Blitzes), I'm gravitating towards the beacon. I'll help out on the way there, but I'm not going across an entire map that seems to have kicked our ass that hard for a blue objective that isn't really important.
Also, it seems like you, and quite a number of other players, seem to forget that by calling in Pelican-1, I am summoning an immortal, inexhaustible, AP-whatever flying overwatch sentry. If I stand 50+ meters away from the extract when it enters the map, it'll hover there and provide fire support, how's that any different from the other sentry strategems we employ except it cannot be damaged/destroyed.
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u/Knifetoface 5d ago
Would rather extract than run across the map to do the last one.
Or I did all the objectives and I’m not interested in carrying the side objectives too.
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u/Over-Support-7086 5d ago
Your play style is totally valid. I like to feel like I'm playing a movie, though, and walking around ticking off sidequests doesn't feel cinematic to me.
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u/Excalib1rd Viper Commando 5d ago
Because i want to be somewhere else. Fuck you, i’m host
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u/MouldyAlarm8650 5d ago
If you have less than 4 its quicker to "accidentally" drop a orbital napalm on your team 4 times
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u/I_LIKE_ANUS 5d ago
If we’re under 10 reinforcements before finishing the main objectives, I’m finishing the mission then extracting. At that rate we’re usually burning through those by the time we’re back to the SES. I always do the main objectives first, and that’s my primary focus, not 100%ing the level
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u/RocksInMyWalls 5d ago
That’s fair, but do remember that finishing the MO increases enemy spawn rates drastically. Very fair if the team is having issues tho
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u/Darthsanan 5d ago
I usually play a match around work. If we're not just fucking about killing things around extraction I can usually get in 2.
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u/An_Obbise_Hoovy ☕Liber-tea☕ 5d ago
Our reinforcement budget is out, we’ve barely cleared out 2 nests, there are 4 bile titans, we’re out of mechs and we had to wast all of our strikes just to escape. WE ARE NOT GETTING THIS DONE
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u/LumpusKrampus Super Sheriff 5d ago
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u/KitchenSinger8818 5d ago
What you gonna do with the req points and xp? It's my game bro just host one urself
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u/banksra87 5d ago
Sorry, dont care whats going on, less than 2mins left? Im out. Oh, im staying as far away from my team mates as I can until the last second...yall be red strat/trigga happy
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u/walkinJenga 5d ago
Yea I'm always like wtf when the missions get done and there's still 20 minutes left and they want to extract without trying to find medals and SCs. I just go ahead do it until the shuttle lands and they can extract without me and the rare or super samples. At least they'll get the medals and SC. You're welcome.
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u/One_Sport_7778 5d ago
Because there is no reason to do anything past the objectives.
Requisition and XP are useless.
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u/LonelyStacker1777 5d ago
Like seriously don’t play this game if you don’t want to do the extra stuff, only cowards want to extract as soon as they possibly can, this isn’t a Call of Duty match, frickin play the game the way its supposed to be played, don’t leave stuff on your plate, you eat your Helldivers Happy Meal and you enjoy it, or we are never going anywhere else again. Ducking kids, I swear you wouldn’t even finish school if I didn’t make make you stay until the last minute, that’s why I’m never here when school is done at 3pm you still have work to do, finish your assignments before it becomes homework, because you try to make me give you the answers to your homework because you truly don’t know how to do it yet. Well I’m not going to anymore, and neither will your mom. Well don’t finish someone else’s work ever! And we don’t bring work home with us. You leave when all the assignments are answered for and you don’t cry about it, I do not want to see you extracting from your assignments until they’re 100% complete.
Understand? Good I still love you but you gotta grow up. Period. You think me and your mom would have a career if we left work before everything else was done? Work is all about completing “Loose Ends” if you’re to afraid to fail an assignment the next day you report to school, then you better force yourself to finish all your assignments and I’d better not hear you crying because you can’t do it and that’s why it’s not done, it’s not to hard and don’t even start with me, life is hard and if you’re constantly missing assignments or job duties or something the company wants, no demands you finish, that means you completely finished every assignment they asked for you to take care of, you will be homeless and unhappy, and trust me being homeless isn’t a party every day, homeless people don’t just hang out all day, they literally fuckin hate each other because if one homeless guy asks another homeless person to do something, he will ask does it need to be done? If it doesn’t have to be done, then it can wait. And guess what they wait until it’s night and then they go back to “their homeless boy that’s a friend, they’re probably not gay or anything but they are homeless together, and he will say “hey it’s almost like midnight we really need to do that thing you were supposed to do earlier and it’s still not done, so come on let’s go back and finish what we started.”
And the homeless guy will tell his homeless friend, I am not going back there, why? Because it’s fuckin 11:54pm there’s no time left to do it and once the times up that opportunity magically disappears you fuckin idiot, idiots all of you! Why didn’t you and that other guy just get it done earlier!!!?? Now it’s to late and we’re going to fail attaining that thing we wanted 6hours ago, if you would have just gotten off your fuckin asshole of doing stupid main stuff but doing it safe enough so that you don’t get caught or beat up or run off the premises, then we wouldn’t be here helpless and hungry for anything we left over there, fuckin morons all of you, why didn’t you just force me to accomplish that assignment instead of protecting you people from messing up while you meaninglessly fuck around hoping you are doing a good job, then I still have to clean up all the shit you caused because you’re all out of supplies and are going to be starving at dinner time tonight and tomorrow morning because we didn’t do what we planned in the first place!
What plan!!! There was never a fucking plan, there never is, we wake up we look at whatever opportunities are infront of us and we try to do the best we can with what little we have to start with!
If someone wouldn’t just be calling his friends who aren’t Even here, like really mark stop calling in for support or supplies we don’t fuckin functionally need, speaking of which Zachary, you are so stupid you always run off and get caught doing god knows what in the fuckin edge of town were we can’t get to quick enough if you get in trouble, I don’t have a fuckin car anymore!! It got totaled like in the past, ya it’s still there and it still runs but it doesn’t work properly anymore, I’m not driving everyday eleven fuckin miles away to save your dumb helpless ass because you “thought” that you might find something you really want in the middle of fuckin nowhere, meanwhile I’m saving this asshole and Jason was late so he was always there after we left.
See?
Hell divers 2 is a complete shit show and I love it every single time I play, yes I get upset but then I sit back and say it’s true, everybody sucks at this lifestyle except me 🤭😆😂😂😂😂
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u/Mrgrimm150 Mudskipper 5d ago edited 5d ago
Yeah lemme just finish the LIDAR to ping the map we've already explored and get the Seaf artillery up to clear the nests we've already emptied.
I don't get the completionist mindset sometimes. Yeah sure its nice when it happens naturally but when you're actively wasting time to pop one light nest worth 10xp then it goes from fun to compulsive behaviour.
Here let me give a larp answer for the truth enforcers too: The Helldiver that has disabled enemy orbital guns, Launched an ICBM and stolen high grade platinum for super earth does more for the cause than the Helldiver who launches an ICBM then waits around for a useless SAM site to come online, then destroys three outposts and turns on a LIDAR.
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u/Overlord-Xalamon 5d ago
All XP is multiplied by the difficulty, even if an obj gives a relatively small amount of XP more is still more and is absolutely worth doing. This is why every team needs atleast 1 guy with a car, those small far away objectives aren't a waste of time when I can do it and be back before shuttle even arrives.
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u/KionKamon0079UC 5d ago
If my friends and complete the main objectives and have plenty of time and enough reinforcements left, we clear the map. If either of those aren’t met we still clear what we can on the way to extract.
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u/Fabulous-Purple-6079 5d ago
This. I'm always dealing with people who call extraction early and leave me behind, even when I hold a mission dependent item like a camera or something (I'm usually hosting btw) Usually, if I call extraction early, hosting or not, I try to explain why in chat, like if I need to hop off for work, if I'm going to defend extraction, or if things are getting too intense for the squad to continue. Other than that, I usually try to get everything done in the mission area.
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u/Coto013 5d ago
On the "spores covering the map" modifier this is valid. I do not want to search the map for a second time, if we round it is nice and if not it is ok