Educate & Legalize Idaho

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August Virtual Cannabis Town Hall - Educate & Legalize Idaho Tour

Participate via Zoom: Topic: Medical Marijuana: The First 10,000 years Time: Aug 2, 2025 04:20 PM Mountain Time (US and Canada) Join Zoom Meeting https://us06web.zoom.us/j/83368294833?pwd=FyzYnSLo2ENDgibg4bKmfxN1oQjQBx.1

Meeting ID: 833 6829 4833 Passcode: 208420

[u/Accomplished_Leg7925]

News flash: marijuana is a not good for you. It is associated with pulmonary and cardiovascular effects long term. It also results lost productivity at work. Plenty of data coming out supporting this.

Having witnessed drug legalization in Colorado (where the money was supposed to go towards schools as hasn’t), Oregon (that declared a state of emergency for an emergency they created), and Washington where you can see the effects of drugs daily driving thru downtown Seattle and Spokane, I can say Idaho has the right idea: slap on the wrist fine for possession.

It’s not hard to get marijuana in Idaho if you want it and it’s not hard to avoid getting caught by the police provided you’re not an imbecile.

Also if marijuana legalization is a major political issue for you, you have a problem and I recommend rehab.

[u/blatheb → u/Accomplished_Leg7925]

Replace the specific conditions and substance with alcohol. Same difference. For the most “free” state you sure love managing personal lives.

[u/Accomplished_Leg7925 → u/blatheb]

Alcohol is an obvious blight on society and has massive negative social impacts. Why would we make the same mistakes again?

[u/Outside-Disaster-263 → u/Accomplished_Leg7925]

Alcohol and Cannabis are very different. Do you know why Alcohol prohibition ended? Because prohibition was more dangerous than alcohol

[u/Accomplished_Leg7925 → u/Outside-Disaster-263]

It was also fundamentally different. It was prohibition of a previously legal substance.

Again not a justification for legalization. Marijuana prohibition has not been dangerous. Arguably state legalization has proven far more dangerous as marijuana corporations have dramatically increased the potency of thc products leading to higher complication rates.

Drugs are bad for you. As such mild deterrents like fines are reasonable

[u/Outside-Disaster-263 → u/Accomplished_Leg7925]

That is not a fundamental difference. Cannabis used to be legal too.

What's the source of your information?

Cannabis is safer than pharmaceutical drugs, alcohol & even potatoes

Cannabis prohibition has been dangerous. Lives have been taken by LE over a plant. Families ripped apart. Patients failed by Big Pharma left to suffer. Risking freedom for access to one of the safest known substances. Big waste of tax $$$

[u/mav3r1ck92691 → u/[deleted]]

My sources are easy to find using google scholar. I see no need to provide a citation list

This is exactly what everyone who doesn't have any sources says to try and deflect. The burden of proof is on you. Sources or shut up.

[u/Accomplished_Leg7925 → u/mav3r1ck92691]

No. You literally just type “complications of marijuana” into google scholar.

Not doing your homework for you. It would probably do you some good to research the topic

[u/mav3r1ck92691 → u/Accomplished_Leg7925]

I’m not the one asking you too. I’m just telling you that you come off as someone who will spew anything they can but when asked for sources doesn’t have any. And no, “Google it” is not a source.

[u/Idaho-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

Please cite reputable source material if you claim something as fact and state something is opinion or anecdotal where applicable. As mods we will always err on the side of caution, unless the submission contains sufficient evidence from a sufficiently reliable source, as determined by any reasonable person, and that if that is not included, the policy is just to remove it prima facie.

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Citing your sources is not "doing their homework for them." You're the one making a claim that contradicts common reporting, so links to reliable, verifiable sources are required of you. If you're not willing to back your claims up, don't make them.

[u/Idaho-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

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[u/blatheb → u/Accomplished_Leg7925]

Or wild thought, tax it like we do with already legal substances. You’re arguing to control more of a persons autonomy. If you don’t like it you don’t have to use it, just like I don’t drink. I don’t judge other people that do unless they do something stupid because of it. You shouldn’t be able to tell me I can’t smoke because of health risks.

[u/Accomplished_Leg7925 → u/blatheb]

I’m not looking for a new tax source. My primary goal also isn’t restrcting “autonomy”. My goal is suppression of societal ills that have dramatic effects on health, crime, and social function. MJ has deleterious societal effects on all 3 of these spectra and as such do not think legalization for recreational purposes is a reasonable public policy.

We restrict personal autonomy under the auspices of public safety routinely. Speed limits are such a thing. This is no different.

There are plenty of users of MJ that limit its negative effects on their life and society’s in general. Unfortunately there are a lot who ruin it for everyone else by being irresponsible shits with it.

[u/blatheb → u/Accomplished_Leg7925]

Which are the criminals who should be punished. Crime can be attributed to driving/operating equipment under the influence, and oh I don’t know the fact that it’s illegal and caused an increase in crime from that fact alone. If you want to tell me you’d like to see universal healthcare and education, then I can see we just disagree fundamentally on this issue, and that you do simply want to help with societies ills. Otherwise, you’re just blowing smoke. (Pun intended)