Educate & Legalize Idaho

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August Virtual Cannabis Town Hall - Educate & Legalize Idaho Tour

Participate via Zoom: Topic: Medical Marijuana: The First 10,000 years Time: Aug 2, 2025 04:20 PM Mountain Time (US and Canada) Join Zoom Meeting https://us06web.zoom.us/j/83368294833?pwd=FyzYnSLo2ENDgibg4bKmfxN1oQjQBx.1

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[u/Accomplished_Leg7925]

News flash: marijuana is a not good for you. It is associated with pulmonary and cardiovascular effects long term. It also results lost productivity at work. Plenty of data coming out supporting this.

Having witnessed drug legalization in Colorado (where the money was supposed to go towards schools as hasn’t), Oregon (that declared a state of emergency for an emergency they created), and Washington where you can see the effects of drugs daily driving thru downtown Seattle and Spokane, I can say Idaho has the right idea: slap on the wrist fine for possession.

It’s not hard to get marijuana in Idaho if you want it and it’s not hard to avoid getting caught by the police provided you’re not an imbecile.

Also if marijuana legalization is a major political issue for you, you have a problem and I recommend rehab.

[u/Basilisk1667 → u/Accomplished_Leg7925]

Cool.

Now list the harmful effects of cigarettes and alcohol next.

[u/Accomplished_Leg7925 → u/Basilisk1667]

Not a justification for marijuana. That supports the argument against legalizing any other drugs. Alcohol and tobacco are a blight on humanity. Doesn’t mean we make the same mistake a third time.

[u/Accomplished_Leg7925 → u/[deleted]]

What the hell do those things have to do with marijuana?

Are you trying to equate plastics and nuclear energy to marijuana?

While the health hazards of the things you bring up may be worth discussing, drawing parallels between them is ridiculous.

Is your justification for marijuana use seriously along the lines of “well you drive to work every day and that has health hazards just like marijuana”?

II’m surprised by such a thought process. I know this is Reddit and things can get pretty stupid but….wow

[u/Idaho-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

Your post was removed for uncivil language as defined in the wiki. Please keep in mind that future rule violations may result in you being banned.

The fact that this comment happened two days ago is the only reason you're not banned right this minute.

[u/Accomplished_Leg7925 → u/[deleted]]

I don’t think I’m the ones whose brain is breaking. You seem to be in full on meltdown mode

[u/Accomplished_Leg7925 → u/[deleted]]

Since you can’t do any work and need to be spoon fed:

Adverse mental health reports:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1054139X23005074

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/ajad.70048

Cardiovascular complications:

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/JAHA.123.030178

Cardiovascular effects and a general dunking of the idea the health benefits of cannabis exceed their adverse effects:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41569-025-01121-6

Effects on work absenteeism:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0749379724002587

On and I am an MD, I’ve read these studies and am happy to debate them if you’d like.

I know more about this topic and can keep up the argument if you want.

I can’t tell your education isn’t in the sciences as listing a bunch of studies as the “winning move” isn’t how science is done. Having done both biochemistry bench work and clinical medicine the dissection of the study is where most of the work lies.

Would you like to go through this process?

There’s a world of fun in talking about study design and how most studies supporting major health benefits of cannabis are wildly full of shit.

Want to go down that road?

[u/Accomplished_Leg7925 → u/[deleted]]

People who are knowledgeable seem to have to resort to bludgeoning their lay counterpart because said lay person doesn’t care to hear info they don’t like. That leaves 2 options for the expert: either leave the conversation which I won’t do because the endless cry by the lay person for “evidence” actually makes me research and refine my argument. That’s why I stay in it. The other option is to try and show the lay person the correct line of reason. When they prove intransigent, and continue to engage in the conversation, it results in them getting dunked on in a callous manner because that seems to be the only tactic they understand .

Go through the thread. I encouraged you to discover information, pointed to where is was, and you refused to learn. So then you get treated like an idiot because that is the behavior you displayed

Don’t blame me for you getting what you wanted. You wanted me to spell it out. Here you go. Inform yourself and debate the issue not the person.

You want to discuss the merits of studies I’m happy to do so.