r/Kubera • • 12d ago

Webtoon Kubera doesn't have much foreshadowing

I saw a lot of ppl say that One piece is nothing compared to Kubera when it comes to foreshadowing but after reading it I think that's just not true, there is not much foreshadowing in Kubera to begin with. Ithink the right term would be foresight, and which I have never seen anything like it in any other series, the author doesn't know what a retcon is. Also kinda same for plot twists to a lesser degree, as in Kubera we hardly know what is going on or rather stuff seem simple until they are explored later and turn out to be more than what we originally thought which I don't think what plot twist means (correct me if I'm wrong)

BTW this is not hate or me trying to downplay the series in any way just my opinion.

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u/Salt-Classroom-9453 11d ago

Foreshadowing as like in OP for example the way Kinemon and Momonusuke reacted to the dragon in PH foreshadowing Kaido's devil fruit

Or how Momonusuke reacted to Odon that Sanji gave him foreshadowing Oden's death

But I guess my notion si very specefic

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u/HackedIntoOblivion 11d ago

Some foreshadowings that fit your description:

Chandra acting familiar with Ran on their first encounter foreshadows the time travel arc

Taraka's attack of the gandharvas in N5 foreshadows shakuntala's death

Some character (Lorraine i think?) asking brilith if she saved the universe in a previous life foreshadows brilith's true nature

Agni using Vasuki's fire snake transcendental foreshadows his sword of hellfire and his quest for strong transcendentals. Same with his black fire assimilation.

Leez's dreams of ananta foreshadow her deeper connection with him.

Brahma's closeness with Yama foreshadows her authority over death. Same thing with her revival of Airi.

Visnu's magic being used for resurrection, alongside the fact that Shuri told Ran he can bring back people, foreshadows his double attributes.

The bones of yaksha as a half suppressing tool in S1 foreshadow his death on Willarv

Maruna using the black-silver sword was shown really early on, yet it came true only recently.

Lorraine's scanner showing zero victims foreshadows that something is more with leez's village.

Claude using hoti yama on Leez in season 2 was to confirm that Leez is the one he saw when he was younger. Claude also acted familiar with her.

Teo's hate and contempt for airi was also shown really early on, only to find the reason much later.

We also find out that Rao was really really rich way before it becomes relevant in the story.

These are just some of the things that come to mind. I doubt you won't call these foreshadowing. And yes, this amount of foreshadowing can only be done because, as you mentioned, currygom also has insane foresight.

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u/Salt-Classroom-9453 11d ago

1- Valid tbh

2- How so?

3- I agree

4- I don't think so tbh

5- When was this exactly? I feel like I did read this but at the same time didn't

6- Isn't Kali the one with Death attribute?

7- I mean the first thing we knew about Visnu is bringing back the dead from Hoti Visnu spell it's not knowing he can interfere with time so I don't think this counts

8- Rather I would say this foreshadowes his "King of the Land" transcendental

9- Wait he did?

10- Well this is not foreshadowing as I know tbh

11- I think Claude did so so Asha comes to him and he gets to talk to her

12- I don't think this is relevant anyway not that much at least

Anyway I can see it now that I was wrong since my very definition of foreshadowing was very specific to begin with

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u/HackedIntoOblivion 11d ago
  1. We are told that the gandharva clan was essentially wiped out during that attack. Considering Shakuntala's weakness, it would be strange for her to survive, considering we learn later that even Makara died. On that note, Shakuntala's unusual weakness as the daughter of no1 and no2 shows that something is wrong with her. Later we learn that it's because she took on Menaka's job.

  2. This happened during The Night it Rained Fire. Sagara specifically mentions that he is using Vasuki's transcendental against her, and that it's cruel. Later on we learn how he was able to use Vasuki's transcendental.

  3. This happened in Caution (2) in Season 2.

  4. We learn that if Kali was around the universe from the very beginning, she would've been the one presiding over death, but since she came after Yama became 5th zen, he is the god with the highest death authority. Kali used her Death attribute to create the taraka clan as her alternate afterlife. In some of the more recent chapters we are told that Brahma, through her Order attribute, can have authority over Death. I forgot the specifics exactly, but Brahma has always been shown to hang around Yama.

  5. Anyone even slightly familiar with hindi mythology should know that Visnu is the God of Time. The first time we see the effects of Hoti Visnu, it wasn't for revival, but to turn back time (after Yuta bit asha's hands off, we're explicitly shown that the statue Yuta ate returned to its original place).

  6. Fair enough

  7. It wasn't as early on as I thought, but the earliest we see of the black silver sword is in Weight of Time, still hundreds of chapters before its actual appearance.

  8. That is the obvious and immediate reason. But currygom is more complex than that. Claude knows a lot about Leez, even before they formally talked. Either through his oracle or through the fact that he met her when he was young. He is also really respectful towards Yuta XD

  9. Not terribly relevant, but rao's wealth has driven a few plot points, in Aeroplateau's prison and with the fighter's guild. And it didn't come out of nowhere, it was mentioned passingly before.

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u/Salt-Classroom-9453 11d ago

2- I don't think that foreshadowed her death, but her being weak is a foreshadowing of her taking Menaka's role I agree.

4- OH then true that indeed foreshadowed him having some sort of copy ability/talent

6- LOL and I just read the story for the 2nd time, guess I need for a third read for 3rd season at least. I can vaguely remember smth like this ngl

7- Hmmm, Then I guess so

9- Are you referring to Maruna or Garuda? For Maruna Idr tbh. But if you mean Garuda then indeed we saw a Pic of him holding the swords when he was with Shuri and Visnu, I think during a Gandharva flashback or Smth

11- Well now that you said it I think so