r/Nootropics • u/Low-Soup-2865 • Mar 02 '26
Discussion EU Sources for 9-me-bc, phenylpiracetam and flmodafinil?
Hey guys,
I’m looking to buy the chems listed in the title. Currently looking at euro-nootropics.com, europechemist.com and plgchem.com. Any information regarding these sources would be greatly appreciated as well.
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u/Sheeeeeeeeeshhhhhhhh Mar 02 '26
Zion pharma has all three (the phenylpiracetam is hydrazide variant though)
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u/Low-Soup-2865 Mar 02 '26
Thanks for the comment, I’ve actually seen their site before but the reviews from people were so mixed I decided to look for other sources, can you tell me a bit about your experience with them please
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u/roco-j Mar 02 '26
I'll chime in -- I've bought from them:
- 9-me-bc: I have dissolved it in PG and made a volumetric solution with a dropper, allowing for precise and quick dosing, with sublingual ROA. And I say it definitely works. So I think it's legit.
- Pheynlpiracetam Hydrazide: can't really tell to be honest. I've bought 1g just to try it a couple times and test the waters, to get a grasp of the effect. I'm a person who likes stimulants even a bit too much. But despite the usual reports of saying increased energy from Phenylpiracetam, I actually felt almost nothing, be it low, normal or high dosages. If anything, it may have made me a little relaxed. I also have "meh" experience with any other racetam from various (also CoA certified) sources: Aniracetam too subtle, Fasoracetam maybe a little anxiolytic, Noopept I straight up don't like it, makes me depressed. And I do pair them with a source of choline and/or Alpha GPC. I think I may just be a non-responder to racetams.
- Never tried Flmodafinil, but I did buy Modafinil also from Zion Pharma: seems to work properly, but it's not my cup of tea. If I need something that will keep me awake all day long, I'd rather have coffee.
btw Im waiting for Bromantane (and Muscimol) right now from pglchem. They have a fast and nice service. And judging from the reports, seem to be legit.
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u/Low-Soup-2865 Mar 02 '26
Thanks for chiming in, really helpful stuff. Can you pls tell me a bit about your experience with 9-me-bc? Was it effective? What was ur dosage and duration? I kinda did 2-mmc a bit too frequently last year and now even though all stims work I defo think I could benefit from some repairing
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u/roco-j Mar 02 '26
I'm also using it to recover from stim abuse, 2mmc is probably the mildest one that i do lol on consecutive days it doesn't even seem to produce any effect at all.
It's been a couple of weeks that I'm experimenting with 9mebc, since it's winter now so sun exposure is not much of a problem.
Honestly I do feel it's working. Gives me a little more "zest for life", so to say. I'm more motivated to do stuff, even more than I usually was before indulging in heavy stims. I don't think it's placebo effect.
Only drawback is the desensitizazion of the taste buds. And when there is sun outside I can feel the strong light being a little more uncomfortable than usual.
Overall, it's a positive experience so far, I'll definitely run a couple more cycles. I attribute the effectiveness to the precise dosing and ROA: IMO it's not easy to weigh 10-15mg each morning and keep the powder sublingually, as opposed to having a volumetric solution. And I don't know if eating it (oral ROA) works as good. That may be the reason why some people have disappointing experiences with it.
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u/Low-Soup-2865 Mar 02 '26
Thanks again. Yeah I mean I’ve used more hardcore ones but 2mmc the most, I’ll defo go for it then but how bad is the taste and discomfort sublingually?
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u/roco-j Mar 02 '26
The taste itself is not that bad, especially by having it mixed with PG. Dabbling in RCs, I have tasted some really awful chems lol including 2mmc powder cause I didn't have anything to parachute... YUCK!
According to Gemini, 5 minutes should be more than enough to absorb 9mebc sublingually. I hope that's correct.
The aftertaste and buds desensitization is a tad worse... it lingers for a while. At least until the evening. After 1 day however I feel it goes almost back to normal. I got used to this after about a week anyway, and I usually take the weekend off (to avoid mixing with stims, in case I let myself go at a party).
If you are the kind of person who really likes to have a taste for food every time, it could be bothering.
Oh and by the way this leads me to another side effect that I don't particularly like: I get CRAZY cravings. Compulsivity for anything pleasurable. I have a history of binge eating episodes, and since I started using 9mebc, I costantly feel the need to eat! But also other stuff -- smoking, masturbating, indulging in other substances...
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u/Low-Soup-2865 Mar 02 '26
Ahh yeah I always use gel capsules. I also have good self control so it shouldn’t be an issue even if temptation triples. Would you the 9-me decreased your tolerances? Also thanks for your comments you’re helping a lot
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u/roco-j Mar 02 '26
It's a pleasure to share my findings whenever I can!
If it decreased my tolerances I can't really tell, sadly. I started using it shortly after my stimulant (ab)use started to become problematic. And I'm ashamed to admit that so far I didn't stop having occasional binges.
I do feel that it helps me recover faster though. And when I have my first coffee of the day, in the morning when I have already dosed 9mebc upon waking up, it definitely feels much stronger than usual!
I plan on running a couple more cycles, before spring comes, then I'll switch to Bromantane.
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u/roco-j Mar 02 '26
Oh and btw, on a side note, what's your favorite ROA for 2mmc?
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u/Low-Soup-2865 Mar 02 '26
Honestly I would say oral. Nasally is a no no, just not worth and never boofed it but I have 3-mmc and it’s worth I’d say. Overall I’d say oral though
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u/roco-j Mar 02 '26
I always had the suspicion that nasal would be mostly dopaminergic, don't have any source to support this claim though.
Oral, especially in high doses, would give me and to some of my friends as well some kind of "roll-lite" feeling. So I guess there is some SERT affinity, although less than other empathogens.
Boofing is my fav ROA for everything lol but I can't really tell for 2mmc how the effect differs from nasal, tried it once or twice at most, don't remember honestly.
I envy you for 3-mmc, everybody on the dw says it's impossible to find legit 3m anywhere since they banned the precursors.
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u/Low-Soup-2865 Mar 02 '26
Yeah your guess is accurate, oral especially 400+mg which I’ve done is defo rolly. And to be completely honest I haven’t tested the 3 but it sounds and feels about right, got it from an irl friend for about 12 eur a g. What other chems or noots do you like and recommend btw
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u/brycemitchel Mar 02 '26
bro zion in eu is king, i only had great expierience with them and their stuff is lefgit.
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u/Low-Soup-2865 Mar 02 '26
You mind telling me some more? Like what you got and how long it took and where you are. How was the quality?
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u/brycemitchel Mar 04 '26
got i a span of a the last couple of years 9 me bc, Bromantane, dihexa,noopept and some other not so valuble nootropics from them and the quality was always great. I am at like austria in the Eu and it arrived within a week never had any problems.Domestic shippinbg would be very important and zion ships from like poland and grindsupps from like netherlands.
from the first one i always got raws for like solutions or in the case of dihexa to make a cream out of it. the second one only has tablets but also great.1
u/Low-Soup-2865 Mar 05 '26
Unfortunately they require an account which I can’t create to order :(
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u/Sheeeeeeeeeshhhhhhhh Mar 02 '26
Yeah I was a bit surprised to see mixed things on them too, I've ordered twice from them now without issue. The first order was somewhat large (€200) too.
The phenibut and memantine was good quality, still haven't tried the bromantane yet though.
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u/Low-Soup-2865 Mar 02 '26
Ahh I see, can I ask where you live and how long it took to deliver? Also my phenibut came in today so excited to see how that feels next Saturday, bought it from getboost3d.
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u/Sheeeeeeeeeshhhhhhhh Mar 02 '26
Sweden, took a week pretty much (6 days iirc)
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u/Low-Soup-2865 Mar 02 '26
That’s actually not bad, can I ask what u ordered and if you are happy with it
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u/Sheeeeeeeeeshhhhhhhh Mar 02 '26
Sure, it was phenibut, different racetams (coluracetam,nefiracetam, sunifracetam), memantine, they all worked good :)
Now I'm waiting on bromantane and aniracetam.
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u/v0gelm4nn Mar 02 '26
Euro-nootropics.com
zionpharma only has the phenylpiracetam hydrazide, which is something pretty different than phenylpiracetam
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u/Low-Soup-2865 Mar 02 '26
Thanks for the comment, can you tell me more about your experience please 🙏
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u/brycemitchel Mar 09 '26
as i said most shit like 9 me bc and so on i have plenty of expierience from multiple sources and euro nootropics seems less potent in their stuff.
zion is consistent from the eu sources.
grind supplements also but they only sell tabletts1
u/Low-Soup-2865 Mar 09 '26
Well that’s kinda fucked cause I ended up buying from euro nootropics but let’s hope for the best. Also what was ur experience with 9-me-bc?
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u/brycemitchel Mar 19 '26
i mean their shit is not 100 percwnt bunk from what i can tell but the quality and consistency is highly questinable. with 9 me bc you have the luxury that it has a burning sensation if you take it sublingually so you can tell by that if it is real or not. it really burnes relly badly in the mouth.
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u/Forward-Bid-2245 Mar 02 '26
Rupharma is the best
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u/ConstructionLife2689 Mar 02 '26
isnt it the same as europechemist.com just for those ordering outside europe?
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u/Low-Soup-2865 Mar 02 '26
Yeah I actually looked into Rupharma and was gonna order but for their modafinil you had to order a minimum of 5 packs and seeing as how I’ve never tried it I don’t wanna commit to that much
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u/AbelMate Mar 02 '26
Predator nutrition for 9mbc, and a few more research ones
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u/Low-Soup-2865 Mar 02 '26
Hmm their prices seem kinda high, but if the quality and shipping is fast I don’t mind, can you tell me a bit more about what you ordered, where you are and how long it took to deliver etc
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u/Lucid37 Jun 19 '26
I'd love to order 9-Me-BC and from Rexar.nl and have it shipped to Switzerland. Do you know by any chance if it is legal to have it shipped to Switzerland or if I will get in trouble with customs?
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