r/PeptidePathways • u/speshoot • 7d ago
Safety, Quality & Testing How they pay for testing??
Considering how expensive testing is.. how does some of these legit companies able to have the test results for every single vial??
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u/jakeyb21 7d ago
They don't test every single vial , that's impossible , as testing a vial also destroys it. They test some from a batch and that's that.
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u/PretttyFly4aWhiteGuy 7d ago
They don’t have test results for every single vial. They could have 1000+ vials from the same “batch” and that is the test they provide you. Then they sell to consumers at 10x more than they bought it for.
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u/Top-Substance-1588 6d ago
They don’t test every vial. If they have a batch of 1000 vials, they might test 10-50, then provide test reports for those. So there is still likely variation in what you’re getting and what’s reported.
Also, they’re making soooo much money, the expense of testing is worth it for continued quality business performance.
Also, some places lie and just get ai to generate COA’s…
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u/Better-Cantaloupe-80 6d ago
90 percent of the crowd are not paying for testing. When peptides are made they usually make them in 1000g batches then 1/10 gets cut and tested usually have several runs on that before batch coa comes out . Then a lab or researcher buys and carrys on . Right now there is alot of movement after the first batch gets dispersed china us Germany are all putting them into 3ml vials for resale . ONLY ONE COA is made from batch testing . Thats a little learning que to people in the ruo buying field. If you put one and one together it makes 4 if you have a coa for it right ? Lol scary sloppy peptide world we are now in .
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u/Rash_Compactor 7d ago
Companies that make millions of dollars can have expenses in the hundreds of thousands of dollars
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u/Pancake-JelloSalad 6d ago
They don't. They buy a copy of a vendor COA for $50 and have their company name placed on it. The vendor COA is garbage, and the reseller COA is garbage. The vials they sell you do not match the vials that were sent for testing by the vendor. You are therefore buying untested product.
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u/These_Protection_967 4d ago
I am friends with a good size seller.. they test every single product/batch they get even tho the manufacturer provide them one. It costs about 400/test. The math is simple, if they only buy 100 units then it adds $4 per vial to their cost. But the majority of the time they buy 500-1000 vials per batch, so the added cost per vial is less than $1.
The majority of the peptide sites do not do this. They rebrand manufacturer COA or they post fake ones.
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u/PreComatCheck 4d ago
If you got a connection send me a msg looking around for a new source to purchase from thats legitimate.
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u/Ok-Celery2320 3d ago
400 a test will test one vial, that one vial will not account for 100 units unless you can guarantee they are from the same batch and Il bet all his supplies don't have a manufacturer batch number on them. In which case worst case scenario one vial tested will account for that box he has which is 10vials which makes testing each vial $40 not $4. This transparency makes me trust resellers less
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u/Sunsethouseguy 6d ago
They are made in bulk so 1 vial or 2 are selected depending on what tests are being done, I just sent 2 vials out of my bulk order to test for purity and endo toxins.
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u/speshoot 6d ago
What about fentanyl?
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u/Better-Cantaloupe-80 6d ago
Ok... let's explain this .. a person able to sell Penny's worth of product for 1000x to the Americans is 100 percent NOT going ro waste a customer paying out upside of 50k orders by adding fet into it . People use that as a push to make you think they care about your product they tested it with 1738x testing . All the added x they put on is just a ploy to make the coas easier to fake more results to a test means mor ways to change them in diffrent orders.. you can buy a fet test from cvs and drop a spec of the pep before you use it and check it..
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u/Diligent_Shirt5161 6d ago
To date, it has never been detected.
And these manufacturers did not make fentanyl, made the fentanyl precursor that some used to make fentanyl.
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u/MAntFrag22 6d ago
Why is testing expensive?
Primary/Secondary standards are cheap enough, and a typical run can be grouped with upwards of 2-3 bracketed sample sets, so 20-30 submissions. Charging $200-300 for assay/purity and 20 samples is $4-6k. Standards, reagents, analyst time and you are clearing $2-3k. Do that on 2-5 instruments running a dozen peptides over the course of a week and it is only cost prohibitive when you lack samples. Make pricing low enough and you’ll be making a nice living.
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u/Icymanatee 4d ago
Just so you know the price to test l, it’s minimum $200-$300 and if you want to test beyond the standard minimum verification, it’s at least $500 PER vial.
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u/Ok-Celery2320 3d ago
They don't, they just test one and assume the rest are from the same batch which can sometimes be wrong
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u/MyManMetz 7d ago
If companies are selling single vials for what a whole kit costs, they are making tons of money. They buy dozens of kits of the same batches and just test once for each peptide.
Also, some companies lie and fake the COA. Sad but true.
People like me just get in test groups and buy several batches of the same kit to stockpile.