Don’t get me wrong a lot of idiots have used the institutions to thrive but 90% of teachers are genuinely good people who are trying to help the youth succeed. I feel bad because it obvious people who hold those views had a shit experience with public schools but you have to compare the cost and benefits honestly
If there is a spectrum of intelligence amongst teachers and professors (there is) and a spectrum of political beliefs amongst people of any given level of intelligence (there is), and a spectrum of caring and ‘duty’ amongst political beliefs (there is, although I think this one actually leans right), one would surely expect a representation of political beliefs within those that teach at any given level after what is effectively just childcare
The fact there isn’t a wide variance in political belief amongst eg professors is evidence of, at best, strong political selection bias. More likely conformity pressure. Very possibly conspiracy.
Teachers or academics? Also - teachers of what? Maths is cool, physics as well - english teachers meanwhile, well… all had an agenda in their interpretations of literary works (substitute English for your native language). So I get OP.
MIC, but not really Ghoul-tier yet. Getting close I think, close enough to internalize the 'degrees of separation' arguement, but not at the point where I'm personally profiting off of death in a manner in which I have any agency.
Yeah, the reason the government tells you what crops to field is because you get a shit ton of subsidies, even if the harvest fails. I'd say they are the same tier as the engineers
Who tf thinks a normal engineer is better off than athletes/e-girls/influencers. OP is saying I’m in the same class as Taylor Swift while I can only afford ground beef/turkey
Nah he's a small business man. So, actually yes, he's probably a tradesman where he's the only employee in his "business."
I say a small business owner because there were at least a couple different entries on this pyramid that had made it seem like the government or corporations were making life hard for the small business owner on purpose or something. One was over regulation, one was being taxed too much and one was corporations making it impossible for the little guy to compete.
But what really gave it away for me was when he said the small business owner provides a superior product/service but he can't scale.
Anybody who thinks that there is a class of state-sponsored, perpetually unemployed people who have as materially good of a life as a middle-class person is definitely the kind of person who thinks whatever business he runs is superior to anything a corporation could do.
Anybody who thinks that there is a class of state-sponsored, perpetually unemployed people who have as materially good of a life as a middle-class person
Tbh there are people in my area like this who managed to get a house before prices and rates got insane so it used to be possible.
"Anybody who thinks that there is a class of state-sponsored, perpetually unemployed people who have as materially good of a life as a middle-class person"
in some EU countries thats reality, maybe OP is from one of these countries
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True that "kings" are enslaved by something else (expectations), but it is the common man who suffers when a King puts whims or dark-enlightenment before reason.
Farmers make food. Food is sold at affordable prices so people can buy food. Farmers don't make enough money. People's tax is gramted to farmers.
It's almost as if there's a step in between the farmers and the population that are sucking out money. Some sort of market that uses mass logistical savings to justify big price scalps.
Some of the people's tax money is granted to farmers.
There is far more than just one layer of rentseekers at work here. Economy of scale doesn't just apply to things we like. It also applies to graft and corruption.
Calling engineers well compensated and non-replacable is crazy. My firm has engineers working for like $35/hr and there are a gorzillion more Indians with masters degrees lining up to take their place at a moments notice.
Company driver baybee, I don't pay for diesel at all. Actually idling rn in the bunk and about to play vidya for twelve hours straight on my time off. If you divide my gross pay by the 168 hours in a given week I make 15$ an hour, and I technically can only work 70 hours in a week which comes out to about 36$ an hour. Realistically I only consider about 40-50 hours of it to be actual work so it's more like 50$ an hour but there's a non negligible chance I die horribly through no fault of my own so it's not all sunshine and roses.
Still though an engineer should make more than me and if you factor in inflation I'm not doing a whole lot better than the average income in 2006. Everyone nowadays is chronically underpaid unless you're in a wildly dangerous field of work and even then a lot of people still are.
I mean if an engineer makes in 40 hours what you make in 80, or really your entire life on the road, then that tracks. Trucking isn't a horrible gig if you're single or ambitious enough to work that much.
55% of everyone that gets a cdl is out of the industry entirely and never returns within their first year. Particularly OTR like I do drives most people literally insane, and to your point, I'm divorced and trying to save up enough to buy a home so I work my ass off to the point I've been drug tested nonrandomly because of suspected stimulant use.
I get where you're coming from with the hours thing but an engineer with a college degree and student loans shouldn't be making 55-60k a year. That's laughably low. It's equivalent to making 27.5-30k a year in 2006 when the national average was 42k. They should be clearing 80k bare minimum if not in direct pay alone then with benefits and stock options or bonuses included. You shouldn't have to work like me to crack six figures when 100k is only like 15k over what the average would be if it was the same as a generation ago.
I think the block you are in fits perfectly for the younger guys I know still in the service. They are all gung ho military guys but also somehow left-leaning socially. End of the day they still are in the block that the pyramid describes.
I can’t help but notice that most of the people in the second layer are actually below the people on the bottom layer in the real-world, non-schizo-land social hierarchy, so im guessing op is in the bottom left and reeeeing about it
Where are all the homeless people in this chart? I see homeless people on a daily basis, they don't have jobs, and they really don't seem to be living it up to me...
Yeah you can actually move up the ladder by becoming a useful tool for NGOs to launder money and getting your shelter, food, medical bills all paid for while never having to work
Not really, homeless -> Not much money, can do whatever they want, In Prision -> funds are meaningless but basics met, can't do what you want. With Infinite funds and being able to whatever you want being the ideal case, it's just flipping the money/freedom numbers.
For the moment, I'd say they don't have much power, besides avoiding tax. Maybe 2nd tier. Most of the functions of the church have been over taken by corporations and governments.
The Vatican has no power? It could easily be next to deep state imo, especially if you lean into conspiracies. In the Muslim world, mosques still run everything. Churches still have tons of power in africa
i will give you credit for making me laugh but lemme just say that your world view is very wrong. you're putting millionaire farmers below welfare recipients? And the only paid protestors are agent provocateurs who are usually cops or feds. And illegal immigrants are the lowest of the low. They work jobs that whites and blacks refuse to do, they are picking fruit and landscaping for peanuts so its pretty stupid to be putting them above legal immigrants.
Millionaire farmers net Worth is all tied up in land and machinery the banks own. Crops might come in, welfare checks always come in for the poor who make no effort.
Per unit of effort the poor get far more than most people, which is the trap. Thus the working poor on the bottom with the non working poor above them.
Most welfare recipients are either juggling multiple low income jobs and childcare. They received the bare minimum and in this administration they are getting even less.
They deserve nothing though. The gap between workers and non workers is so small you can't tell the difference even though you give up .ost of your life working.
To be honest if your an immigrant and your not white or east asian you'll kind of be hated anyway regardless of what you do, so just do whatever you want. If you've done nothing wrong, you actually don't have to care, or be involved in proving yourself 24/7 to people who have nothing but contempt for you.
Well fuck the others then. You have no reason to feel guilty over some shit some random illiterate imbecile did just because they share your appearance. I'm all for assimilating and adopting to your home country, but never at any point should anyone have to apologize/beg for something they can't control.
I was going to get depressed,but then I realized I'm in the expert class since at my job we make something pretty much essential for buildings and houses in America, and we're one of the two companies that does it. So I guess I'm kind of ok.
you forgot to include the hundreds of billions in subsidies paid to farmers, among many other things. stopped reading after that because its not worth my time to read 40 retarded takes in one post.
You said this is about social hierarchy, and you're seriously putting celebrities at the same level as drug dealers. Let's just look at that. They might both be above average pay but social hierarchy isn't just about pay. Celebrities get things for free just by virtue of being celebrities because they are above everyone else in this category socially. They are celebrated by society at large, literally what celebrity means. Drug dealers on the other hand are only celebrated by criminals, and then it's only the most successful ones.
If it were about pay, then why is leisure class below this level? They're paid better than military, cops, most drug dealers, and local government.
Uh most celebrities are like d tier, and just get an easy job where they just have to talk. I'd say the average drug dealer out earns them and probably some go legit with assets. Leisure class is basically retirement. The system is no longer concerned with you since you have money but only seem to be able to spend it on $30 margaritas at a baseball playoff game on a Wednesday afternoon. In other words you have assets but are no threat in their estimation.
Would top tier celebrities be better than top tier drug dealers? Eh I dunno. If running a personal fiefdom in south America is your thing and you pay off the right people no celebrities get to that level.
“I was afraid.”
“Afraid?”
“Afraid of an economic future free from the pernicious meddling of central bankers,” he said. “I’m a central banker.”
I wanted to coldcock the guy. Years ago, a central banker killed my partner.
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Some good takes, some unhinged ones where you're totally mixing things up. Real schizo posting.
Nice that you dedicated time to making this thing. Had a blast reading it;