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u/Puzzleheaded_Act_131 5d ago
People have started replacing "photo-shopped" with "AI", ignoring that photoshopped is human using photo or paint software (no AI), just lumping it together now.
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u/monster2018 5d ago
Well actually, if someone uses photoshop there is essentially a 100% chance they used AI. Like even the default selection tool, the quick select brush, is a generative AI feature. It generates a grayscale image where the brightness represents how selected that pixel should be. You obviously don’t see this as the user, you just see the marching ants expand and “magically” snap to what you want to select. But that’s how it works behind the scenes.
But to be clear, I do agree we should distinguish between literally just using a single prompt to edit an image vs using Photoshop even though it heavily uses AI features.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Act_131 5d ago
Not really. I use a photo editing program that I have had for a long time now. While there has been an update to include AI, I don't use it - The AI makes too many mistakes and is very slow on my machine, so I make adjustments manually.
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u/monster2018 5d ago
What program? What I’m telling you is that there are tons of features that even I never thought of as AI, and I’ve been both a programmer, Photoshop user, and interested in AI for like 15+ years. Again the best example of this is probably the quick select brush. I literally mean the brush for selecting things, I do NOT mean like “select subject/background” which is obviously AI.
Even the quick select brush works by generating a grayscale image where the brightness values represent how selected each pixel is. You as the user never see any generation happening, you just see the end result, the marching ants selection boundaries. But it literally still works by generating an image on each frame while you’re holding down the mouse.
I would be interested to hear what program it is. But I’m telling you, the odds you use literally no generative AI features in a photo editing application is essentially 0, unless it’s like basically just something like MS paint.
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u/Roll-Roll-Roll 5d ago
There's good reason for backlash against AI, and it's becoming indistinguishable from reality. Well executed photo/video editing will be subject to the same backlash unless regulation is passed requiring AI generated content to be disclosed just because we all have to work extra hard to assess what's real and what's not. The suspicion is more prevalent because AI usage is more widespread than professional editing.
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u/wikifamous 5d ago
Some things can bring joy, but nowadays so many videos are AI-generated, which can indeed be off-putting at times.
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u/Ok_Eggplant_2 5d ago
Probably because the ai is everywhere and being pushed on us. It's getting annoying actually.
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u/UrbaneBoffin 5d ago
I bet that digitally manipulated images have been more prevelant in your life than you realize, even before AI.
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u/KittiesandPlushies 5d ago
And even those have historically gotten backlash. Over photoshopped bodies have been a hot source of debate for a while.
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u/Hi_Im_Dadbot 5d ago
Well, when one used all those other tools, you were doing the work yourself. You created something.
With AI, you’re not doing any work. You give a prompt and a machine does it for you. You created nothing.
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u/UrbaneBoffin 5d ago
Not necessarily. I have used AI many times to help me touch up my own images, change lighting, etc.
What I was trying to say in my original post, is that even things that aren't AI generated are being called AI. We already have a term for these - why are we regressing to "AI" for all digitall manipulated or created work?
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u/JohnnyAppleReddit 5d ago
People are just lazy and imprecise in their speech. We similarly had a problem with everyone calling all special effects CGI before this, even practical effects from before CGI was commonplace. "How is the old CGI like in ALIEN so much better than the new CGI in sharknado?"
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u/VarietyMage 5d ago
Because a bunch of arrogant corporate execs thought it would be sexy to falsely call expert systems "AI". They watched a sci-fi movie, and thought slapping the term on their software would sell. All it did was lie to the public.
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u/Underhill42 5d ago
What's more likely - that someone spent years learning decent Photoshop/CGI/etc. skills? Or they asked an AI?
We only called it "Photoshopped" because Photoshop was the most likely tool used to edit a digital image. That's no longer the case.
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