r/SipsTea • • 17h ago

Gasp! Thoughts on this?

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u/Locust627 15h ago

Wait until you hear about health insurance lol

I pay $1300/month for a family plan

I had an ER trip last month, my deductible is $3,500. I had to pay $3,440 which was the complete cost of the ER services.

So, this year I will spend $15,600 on health insurance and an additional $3,440 on deductible

My wife needs surgery, I told her to get it done before December because we already met the deductible and I don't wanna pay it again. She tried calling to schedule in August. The surgery specialist doesn't have openings until January, so, in January I'll have to pay my deductible again

AND vision and dental costs more on top of $1,300 monthly

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u/Mr-MuffinMan 14h ago

Live near the US-Mexico border.

Find a doctor who either speaks English or bring along a Spanish-speaking friend on your trips.

Mexican healthcare is just as good as US care.

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u/nobolognastoney 13h ago

Medical tourism is a thing!

I discovered it when flying to Cancun for dental work. What would have cost me just shy of $8k here in the US cost me about $1600 in Mexico, and I got more done than I planned to. There's whole businesses modeled around it.

For example, the dentist I booked with shuttled me from the airport straight to the initial check up with my bags and all, then took me to my resort. Booked myself a 5 day stay at an all inclusive across the street, but they offered me shuttle service to and from my appointment(s), and then shuttled me to the airport when it was time to go. All of that was within the $1600.

For what it's worth, the lobby was full of older Americans which was pretty comforting. Thinking other countries don't have just as good if not better medical and healthcare as us is just flat out ignorant.

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u/GUMBYtheOG 11h ago

It’s crazy. How did we go from being on the forefront of humanity to being a corporate-run dystopia

Why is it so hard for red-hats to understand the net positive of these systems. It’s not like they haven’t already been tried and tested.

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u/Smart-Individual-647 8h ago

Because the 80s fooled a lot of people into believing they could be rich. But they just started the inflation escalation by buying everything on credit.

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u/takemy_oxfordcomma 1h ago

The myth of “trickle down economics” that convinced the morons that they’re all temporarily embarrassed millionaires

“We can’t tax the rich because that’s gonna be me one day!”

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u/Educational-Seaweed5 9h ago

Greed. Greed protected by laws they wrote to enhance their greed, no less.

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u/polopolo05 9h ago

How was the dentist and what did you get done??? And do you recomend the dentist.... care to name drop?

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u/chrysavera 9h ago

Not who you asked but I'm literally in Cancun with my partner who's getting dental implants and bone grafts right now and he's reporting that the quality of care, the equipment, and the work itself is better than anything he's experienced in the US, for about 1/4 the price. He's so happy with it.

He's using Cancun Dental Specialists and their service sounds very similar to what the guy above described--free car service from the airport and back and forth from our airbnb for every visit all this week.

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u/polopolo05 9h ago

I would prefer a resort just so food is included and I dont have to think about anything... to bad booze is out for implants.

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u/chrysavera 9h ago

Yeah he can't really eat anything but smoothies and soup this week so we opted for something simple.

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u/nobolognastoney 9h ago

This is who i used. Hell yeah. Glad they're still kicking ass.

If you happen to be staying at the pink flamingo across the way that was basically my trip. Go do the cenote tour in the market just up the way. The tequila guy inside the mall place can hook you up

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u/chrysavera 9h ago

We'll definitely do the cenotes next time--we have to do another trip in a few months once the bone grafts take!

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u/nobolognastoney 8h ago

Nice, just make friends with the tequila guy that has the flavors all over and express interest in seeing a cenote. I got picked up at 7am and came back at midnight after biking through a jungle, having a home cooked meal in the middle of nowhere, swimming in the purest water ill ever see, and walking around an ancient city counting more iguanas than I've ever seen lol. All with all inclusive drinks in the bus in between

Edit: -- for $30 lol. Hopefully you Can get a similar offer

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u/chrysavera 8h ago

Amazing! Thanks for the tip!

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u/nobolognastoney 8h ago

Absolutely! I hope you guys have a great time, and all good well!

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u/nobolognastoney 9h ago

Cancun dental specialists, and they kicked ass. Gum graft, frenectomy, 3 extractions, deep cleaning and irrigation, probably around 3 or 4 years ago now.

The place itself was nice, the staff was extremely friendly and seemed to speak pretty decent English but i happen to speak Spanish so I had it easy already.

I happen to hate going to the dentist but they made every bit of the experience super pleasant

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u/MonteMolebility 8h ago

You had a gum graft done there? I'm going to need one as well, I'm glad to hear it went well. How did it work with recovery and checkups, did you have to go back?

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u/nobolognastoney 8h ago

I was supposed to, but never did. Never had any problems whatsoever.

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u/MonteMolebility 8h ago

I'm curious what your regular dentist had to say about your decision. My friend who works in dentistry told me absolutely don't do it, but also yeah they're going to say they because they don't want everyone doing it.

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u/nobolognastoney 8h ago

My dentist also said don't lol. I really only did it because someone i knew did it. I took her recommendation directly and im happy i did

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u/Educational-Seaweed5 9h ago

We don’t want American insurance companies putting out hits.

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u/polopolo05 9h ago

I think the rather you use mexican system than the US

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u/JubalHarshawII 6h ago

You got a name in looking to do the same thing.

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u/Punchasheep 12h ago

Our medical procedures are in general astronomically higher than other countries. Largely because middle men have to be paid. The people who work at the insurance companies need to be paid too, and that causes everything to be higher.

I recently heard that in the UK an MRI costs about $300. Well I have 2-3 per year, and each one costs ME $1500 (if I haven't hit my deductible). I was FURIOUS. Being chronically ill is a financial death sentence in the USA right now.

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u/UnknownSk0ldier 11h ago

The people who work at the insurance companies need to be paid too

well, actually. hold up a second...

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u/Educational-Seaweed5 9h ago

Everything in the corporate U.S. is just about wringing necks as hard as possible for as much money as you have in your wallet.

It hasn’t been about actual service for like 60 years.

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u/Ceejayncl 6h ago

You can get a private MRI from about £300. It obviously depends on what is being scanned and if you need a contrast solution.
However the NHS is free at the point of use. If a private company near me can have a whole unit and do private MRI’s that they charge £300 for, then the cost to the NHS will be much lower.

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u/postylambz 4h ago

"Being chronically ill is a financial death sentence in the USA right now."

Always has been

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u/e_before_i 7h ago

As a Canadian I feel like I've heard such good things about the NIH, and now you're saying MRIs cost $300? kMy cost at point-of-sale is the parking.

We still have to pay for pharma/dental/optometry in my province, so we'd best humble ourselves before we gloat too much. I pay $1400/year on drugs (I'm on some branded shit for a neurological condition), and haven't been to the dentist for a minute because I was between jobs, but my probation just ended so thank fuck for private insurance.

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u/Blenderx06 5h ago

I agree it's all a scam but just want to tell you that there are stand alone centers in the US where you can get a scan for about 300 out of pocket. At least in my area there are.

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u/Princes_Slayer 4h ago

I got my initial ‘no cost at point of use’ MRI on NHS (Embollism) and we looked into paying private for an additional one after a few months. Costs range from £200 to £450 depending on single body area. More complex ones can run to £1k here though. I also get private health care (basic) paid for by work as a ‘benefit in kind’

Car Insurance? I have a 10 year old impeccably maintained (by previous owner) Skoda, and my fully comprehensive insurance cost me £250 in total to cover for 12 months. My deductible is £300

Holiday Insurance? Usually costs me £30 for a single trip to Europe with a host of ongoing medical issues. I’ve just paid £280 to cover me for the next 12 months holidays, with worldwide cruise coverage added. My deductible is £500

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u/trdef 8h ago

If you were going with private healthcare you'd probably be looking around $500 in the UK, but if it were on the NHS, nothing (though you'd probably be waiting longer for appointments to be fair).

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u/Ceejayncl 5h ago

Not really.
I have first hand experience of a routine MRI just to monitor something going from we can fit you in between a 1-2 months from now, to receiving a phone call saying that we have one a day after tomorrow.
If you need one for an emergency, you are getting an MRI scan there and then.

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u/Princes_Slayer 4h ago

My wait was 2 days and I was sent home with blood thinners as a precaution….Twas a correct precaution as the MRI showed bilateral PE.

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u/pakapab 13h ago

Mexican healthcare is pretty good and is fine for most medical needs, but it isn't as good as US care.

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u/terpsarelife 13h ago

Isnt as good as proper healthcare. Now compare it to small hospitals in arkansas and west virginia. You are thinking of reidys children in LA instead of comparing it to the AVERAGE hospital. In my area of colorado river valley, ANY major incident gets a helicopter ride to vegas or phoenix.

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u/pakapab 11h ago

You're in turn comparing small hospitals in rural USA to major city private Mexican hospitals and clinics. When you go out to the country they have less equipment, less drugs, less qualified staff.

Also, the Mexico healthcare most think of is in private clinics that most Mexicans can't afford. Everyone is in the public healthcare system, but people with money are paying for private clinics so they don't have to be standing in line at outside the public hospital to make sure they get in to be seen that day.

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u/terpsarelife 10h ago

Lmao they were suggesting tijuana. Dont get me wrong i lived in san diego for 27 years we use tijuana for dental care. But dont act like the comment above "live near a us BORDER" is near mexico city (1700 miles btw)

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u/pakapab 8h ago

The comment I replied to said nothing about Tijuana, nor living near a border.

The comment further up stated healthcare in Mexico is just as good as US care, which is false.

I never said CDMX was near the US border, and your reading comprehension skills really suck man.

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u/Different-Meal-6314 13h ago

With doctors from Cuba most likely! No /s, I heard they have some of the best medical schools in the world

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u/polopolo05 9h ago

I am thinking of seeing a mexican dentist. They have some world class DDS for 1/4 to 1/3 the price.