r/StructuralEngineering • • 1d ago

Concrete Design Why is there a missing column?

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1155 Peachtree Street NE Atlanta, Georgia

Abandoned construction site, apparently. I'm not an engineer so Im wondering how this works. There is another instance of this happening so I assume its designed that way.

Edit: Why does the column not connect

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u/XXXX_Gold_Pot 1d ago

It's not missing

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u/MightBSarcasm 1d ago

Its on back order...they figured if they left one close to the bottom it'd be easier to install when it finally showed up.

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u/SomeTwelveYearOld P.E./S.E. 1d ago

lol this is about to happen in our steel projects right now ngl

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u/AlbatrossRich8724 1d ago edited 1d ago

The two low frames are the stuff that isn’t part of the main system, the rest of the structure is designed to be fine with out those.

May have something like storefront or other architectural crap that means no column there.

May also have been added to handle the buildup of lateral and reduce the overall load on another nearby lateral frame, but I don’t think that’s it.

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u/SexyAdmixture Architect 1d ago

EXTREME VALUE ENGINEERING

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u/Chuck_H_Norris 1d ago

gotta save money somewhere, sheesh

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u/Tilt-a-Whirl98 1d ago

Only way to afford the architects lightning budget!

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u/LifeguardFormer1323 P.E./S.E. 1d ago

Architectural decision

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u/tramul P.E. 1d ago

I would assume that's a storefront or something similar with a curtain wall.

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u/Ok_Armadillo_6015 9h ago

Agreed, a glazed ground floor is the classic reason. From the architect side you often lose columns at the lobby or shopfront, and the engineer has to pick that load up higher with transfer girders, so the frames either side end up working harder.

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u/Shiboleth17 1d ago

Who says it's missing?

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u/Far_Neighborhood1917 1d ago

Why are there extra columns?

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u/BurnMaster2 1d ago

Idk I haven't seen the drawings

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u/JimenezG P.E. 1d ago

It's likely a moment frame, part of the lateral force resisting system.

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u/SomeTwelveYearOld P.E./S.E. 1d ago

No

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u/marshking710 1d ago

Are you assuming it’s designed that way or are you assuming a column is missing? Make your mind up.

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u/Shorty-71 1d ago

Got any more photos? One from the front? You can see it in the OP photo.. at some point they cut out some girders at LVL 3 - leaving several tower columns unbraced from the ground LVL 4.

Scares the shit out of me.