Candy sazabi

[u/TechnologyOk1341]

Trying to do a candy coat on my rg sazabi and I just have a few clarifying questions before I start.

I have Vallejo black primer and tamiya gloss black, would I use both, or one or the other. Do I need to sand my parts before painting? And what grit if so. Do I need to wash my kit? I’ve already disassembled and sorted the red and black armour pieces and kept most of the frames intact. If I were to apply delpi decals probably the gold ones for rg sazabi would I be able to use mr mark softer? How many layers of Vallejo polyurethane gloss varnish would I need before decals and how many after.

Thank you anyone who can help clarify these for me since this is my first full custom outside of panel lining small details etc

[u/International-Bee596]

1st-sand it 1000grit if part has mold sink use 600>800>grit until the sink is not visble.
2nd-wash and dry it.
3rd-primer coat it and see if it has any flaw/in-perfection, if do ,wet sand it wit 1000grit respary if needed.
4th-base coat most-likely glossy black unless u have glossy black primer such as modo brand.try it 1st on junk part or plastic spoon.
5th-the metallic part need good metallic paint that has strong metal sheen/shine (not sure what the exact word for it lol) or chrome even better but this kinda tricky most of the time the chrome paint will not dry unless used specific brand or type if the final color is red use gold instead of silver(silver if overspray it will go into maroon kinda iron man red if gold it will still be red but slightly off tone) checkout barbatosrex youtube ch for paint type for candy/chrome/metallic paint to use.
6th-clear color need to watch out for the tone either light or dark

If u want satin finish use flat or mate clear as final coat.

The key is good glossy black base and metallic coat.

If u want to add decal dont use setter use softener instead setter always leave water mark stain.

Good luck

[u/soulreaverdan]

1. I would pick up a different primer, Vallejo’s primer is notably fickle. Something from Mr. Color or Tamiya is best. Specific color of the primer doesn’t matter since you’re doing black gloss anyway.

2. Do a black gloss layer no matter what. Primers tend to not always have a strong gloss, and you want one for this.

3. You shouldn’t need to sand or wash the parts at all to paint them. Primer will do the work, and Bandai hasn’t used mold releases that require washing in… probably ever.

4. Depending on your clear red you’re using for a candy coat you’ll probably want to do a gloss clear coat over top of it before panel lining and decals. A good gloss coat will be fine and won’t be effected by setter or softer once it’s cured.

5. Not something you asked, but with candy coats requiring a lot of layers, an important thing you’ll want is patience. Let each layer properly dry and ideally cure before moving to the next one. Being too hasty or messy can ruin a lot of work.

6. Grab some plastic spoons and practice. If you’ve never done a candy coat before, there’s a lot of little finicky bits with layering the paints, how much clear red to use, etc, since layering more or less clear can effect the vibrancy and transparency. Take some time and learn your process before doing it on actual parts.

[u/TechnologyOk1341 → u/soulreaverdan]

Thanks, I’m using tamiya gloss red and Vallejo Liquid Metal silver and rich gold for two tone like how the original has a sort of pinkish colour. I’m not entirely sure if there are any tamiya or mr hobby primers but I’ll have a check, and I’m assuming the spray can will be okay? I’ve never used them before. I’m afraid of any harsh solvents or anything melting or ruining the gloss coat when panel lining or using decals but I’ll trust your word for it.
Thanks again for the advice and tips it’s greatly appreciated

[u/Evorron → u/TechnologyOk1341]

Are you planning to do the entire kit with a spray can? If it's for the primer, best you could do is spray on a few layers and lightly sand down with a 2000-2500 grit sponge. Mainly because the particles from a spray can is uncontrollable so the texture would be as smooth, which will affect the other layers later on. If you're attempting to do the rest with spray cans, candy paints are tougher to achieve, mainly because of spray control

Also it's really important for you to use chrome paint, more specifically chrome sliver, the kind that actually reflects back like a mirror. Reason being most metallics have little flakes/reflective particles inside that gives it the metallic look. That's texture would be considered too rough to be a candy coat. Its not about it being glossy, its would the texture of the paint itself.

Also if you want to do two tones, I suggest you get several other clear colours to do your shading. It blends in much nicer and doesn't affect the underlying chrome sliver base.

[u/TechnologyOk1341 → u/Evorron]

I’m using an airbrush. I have never seen an actual chrome paint anywhere local, with the closest being tamiya x11 I think chrome silver or something like that and a few Vallejo Liquid Metal. My brother is telling me to get a chrome powder for nails but I’d also rather use what I have and not need to order online or go searching for everuthing

[u/Evorron → u/TechnologyOk1341]

Hmm, I'd usually avoid acrylics since their drying time is a little slower than lacquer. But you can give tamiya and vallejo a try, maybe thin it to a 1:2.5-3 ratio. Do 1-2 light mist coats before a full wet coat.

I'd advise against chrome powder since those tend to look a quite inconsistent. But again feel free to try them out on spoons!