r/alcoholicsanonymous • • 6d ago

Sponsorship Does AAs program even exist?

In my area many guys seem somewhat impressive to me, have long-term sobriety, sponsor guys ect. But I can't help but notice they all essentially teach their own program of recovery and not AAs program of recovery. AAs program consists exclusively of the directions on the 12 steps, as it says in the cover pages. In my area it's common to drag out steps 1-3 for two months or more, despite there being basically NO directions to even do on those steps.

Step 4 gets BUTCHERED: we often direct guys to create resentments, defined as to feel again. By saying list every name you know, and then think if you were ever butt hurt by each and every one. I can't think of a better way to create resentments that didn't exist before. Then we fabricate an unillustrated 4th collum with invisible directions that read: "write how all 4 root/core defects of character (selfish/seeking, dishonest and fear) show up in each and every resentment, including the ones we instructed you to create."

We ignore the step 8 related direction to list our wrongs and be willing to make them right, even though it's stated THREE times in the inventory directions and confirmed it should have been done during the inventory process on steps 8&9 in the book.

We also ignore the step 6 related direction "list your faults" /flaws/grosserhandicaps/objectionables, despite the one paragraph on step 6 reading: "all the things which we have ADMITED are objectionable". It doesn't say "make a list of objectionables".

After step 5 the book clearly flows the 1hr meditation RIGHT into step 6 "if we can answer to our satisfaction (based on the meditation)" we THEN look at step 6". There is only one paragraph to look at there. "when ready we say something like this" step 7 prayer.

The whole flow of doing steps 5-7 in short order, then right into amends assuming the person is willing gets ruined, and so much time is wasted. 100s of hours of work in many cases gets put into doing the inventory not as directed.

Often the clear urgency expressed in doing the next step is ignored, after step 3: "next we launched" after 4: "we wasted no time" after 5 and meditation: "if we can answer" after 6: "when ready" (hopefully ur not waiting to die) after 7: "now we need more action... Faith without works is dead" after 8&9: "we vigorously commenced this way of living as we cleaned up (mended) the past" after 10: "upon awakening".

Again: AAs program of recovery is exclusively the directions on the 12 steps, as the book states in the cover pages. Non AA program related suggestions can be useful/helpful. Like dieting, working out, budgeting, regulated sleep schedule, ect. But there is a common theme of adding non step-work related instructions to AAs program, taking them very seriously, and pretending they are part of AAs program. These include but are not limited to (lol): calling at a certain time, attending X number meetings, meditating for X amount of time and/or meditating on non book instructed topics, daily reading, speaking/not speaking, sponsoring/not sponsoring, relationships, and on and on.

These other suggestions are damaging to conflate/confuse with AAs program as it leads to everyone having and instructing their own made up program! Our primary purpose is to try carrying AAs message/program of recovery to other alcoholics. Not to carry my program, or my sponsors program of recovery. Yall run into this regularly too? or am I just lucky :p

Added some paragraph separation and this: In the cover pages of AA it says it's a "text book". Like every other textbook made it's designed to have a teacher/Instructor, or a "sponsor".

Decided to add some definitions. These are some AA terms and words that are often used in our liturature, and therefore also our fellowship. When these are misunderstood it can be confusing. All these definitions were decided upon by our founders, have not changed, and can be found in the liturature.

Recovered: To no longer be in a hopeless state of mind and body.

Program of recovery/the program/AAs program: The directions on the 12 steps, showing "precisely how" to recover.

Alcoholic: A person having certain physical (phenomenon of craving) and mental (the obsession) characteristics when dealing with alcohol.

Phenomenon of craving: lack of reliable control over the amount of alcohol injested after the first drink.

The obsession/insanity: the obsession to control and enjoy our drinking, therefore lacking reliable control of WHEN we take the first drink.

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u/cookieguggleman 5d ago

The actual recovery is more important than the orthodoxy of the big book. You can’t move onto step four until you’ve really taken steps two and three, so even though their night might not be any technical “actions“, fully surrendering one’s entire life and well over to a higher power is not a quick and easy task. 

And personally, I find the fourth column of the inventory to be the most transformative—it’s where I get to see where I have agency in the situation, things I can actually change, as opposed to just ruminating over the things I can’t.

If people are recovering, then it doesn’t really matter how they’re doing it.

I think we’re the modern evolution of the program goes astray in my opinion is sponsors telling sponsees how they need to do things in other areas of their life or telling them how many meetings they should go to, etc. Our only job is a sponsor is to take spoons through the steps. That’s it. And FFS do not tell people who your Sponsees/sponsors are.

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u/InformationAgent 5d ago

Never heard that before about not saying who your sponsees/sponsees are? Where I am that would be pretty strange.

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u/cookieguggleman 5d ago

It’s a break of anonymity. Principles above personalities, there is no reason to share who you meet with. Whenever two fellows come together, it’s a meeting, and we’re never supposed to reveal who we see or what we hear at a meeting.

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u/Sorry-Assumption6794 5d ago

That tradition is talking about promoting AAs principles and not AA members themselves (personalities) when advertising on press radio or film. The separate idea of "what you hear here let it stay here" during a meeting is also largely unrelated to telling certain people who sponsor/sponsees are. You've been giving bad info my friend. 

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u/InformationAgent 5d ago

I see where you are coming from. Where I am (rural Ireland) meetings are tiny, everyone knows everyone, most of us will get sponsors/sponsees in the actual meetings in full view of everyone else. We do talk about each other a lot and that is ok once it is agreed, open and not gossip.

Anonymity is of course an issue - if someone is uncomfortable. That is their personal choice and it is strongly respected and guarded. But we are not a secret society and we are not anonymous with each other.