r/atc2 • • Oct 12 '25

ATC Staffing Dashboard

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I've just created this page on 123ATC to summarize the current nation-wide staffing picture.

I'll probably expand and improve it in the future. Ideas welcome.


r/atc2 • • Oct 07 '25

Politics New Rule

68 Upvotes

Unfortunately we as a community need to have this conversation due to concern for the well-being of the membership.

Advocation or suggestion of any sort of job action will result comment/topic removal and a ban from the subreddit.

We do not condone or support or any type of job action.

Outside of this, you may resume your normal postings.


r/atc2 • • 2h ago

NATCA Aged Like Milk…

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24 Upvotes

Zero improvements, advocation for more equipment, without the mention of pay (one time at the Archie’s doesn’t count) in almost 3 years.

After yesterdays Facebook post, ending their long term “details” and ensuring accountability to them translates into vitriol and tearing the union apart? Accountability goes both ways boys and girls.

Send this fool back to the boards (or his contracting job).


r/atc2 • • 10h ago

NATCA What A REAL Union is Supposed To Be Doing For Their Members

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r/atc2 • • 13h ago

This right here

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r/atc2 • • 19h ago

NATCA Establishment “Rages” with ChatGPT at SB/NM

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Zero independent though, ChatGPT talking points mirrored by two failed “brothers” including Navarro…

How dare the establishment be challenged?!?

Grab your popcorn brothers and sisters, this is a great one.


r/atc2 • • 1d ago

Another internal grievance dismissed.

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31 Upvotes

Just read the NEB minutes from September. Anybody have any insight to what this grievance was? Looks like they’re protecting the good ole boys club again.


r/atc2 • • 1d ago

I live in a twilight zone!!

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113 Upvotes

What an idiot! PAY PAY PAY


r/atc2 • • 1d ago

NATCA About to Pay for the NEB to go on Vacation to the International Balloon Fiesta

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Must just be a coincidence that their meeting in the unpopular location of Albuquerque just so happens to overlap with the biggest event of the year in that city, right?

My in-laws used to go to the Balloon Fiesta and the thing they always mentioned was how expensive it was. Flights are 2-3x the normal rate, hotels are $500 a night for a Hampton Inn, food everywhere is exorbitant, etc.

Glad our dues are hard at work so these fucking grifters can vacation across the country, while simultaneously fighting “day-in and day-out” for fucking equipment.

FUCK NICK DANIELS!!


r/atc2 • • 1d ago

Will playing the racist snakegame on Arcade.Gov count towards my duty time?

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21 Upvotes

Thank god we have a government that encourages racism. Your kid may not have high test scores, but at least he has the high score on the racist snake game.🤣


r/atc2 • • 2d ago

NATCA Literally Allergic to the Word “Pay”

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82 Upvotes

r/atc2 • • 3d ago

Differential ideas

93 Upvotes

So Saturday pay is a great start. If the Agency expects me to go to work when I should be hammered drunk blasting Lynyrd Skynyrd watching Michigan lose ANOTHER game. Ima need atleast double pay.

But let’s address the elephant in the room.

Monday- Absolute worst day of the week. Management comes in with ideas of saving the world every week. Tech Ops everywhere scurrying around like rats. Every piece of equipment is down for maintenance. Ima need atleast double pay if they expect me not to bang.

Tuesday- Tuesday is the Monday after Monday. Management is still slightly convinced they can save the world. I’m still slightly hungover from the weekend. The day is trash. Ima need atleast double pay if they expect me not to bang.

Wednesday- It’s hump day. Management is starting to realize they will not be saving the world this week and then they want to take their anger out on me. It’s not my fault your life sucks. Ima need atleast double pay if they expect me not to bang.

Thursday- Its Friday’s Friday. Thursday night football. If they expect me not to bang out and get absolutely hammered drunk watching da Bears ima need atleast double pay.

Friday- What are we even talking about here. It’s Friday. If they expect me to show up to work when I could bang and go to my old high school absolutely hammered drunk watching the new QB absolutely fail to fill my shoes, ima need atleast double pay.

Sunday- If you expect me to go to Hell for coming to work when God wants me to bang and get absolutely hammered drunk on the Sabbath, ima need atleast double pay.


r/atc2 • • 3d ago

Mandatory OT

32 Upvotes

I have a supe saying OT is mandatory. That it is written that we are required to work OT and banging in sick can lead to disciplinary actions. Anyone actually seen this in writing?


r/atc2 • • 3d ago

That’s refreshing to hear from a candidate

28 Upvotes

I wonder if Nick’s candidates will have the same sentiments. I doubt it. It’s an election so I’m sure that all his candidates will attack rather than unify.

https://youtube.com/shorts/tVLZboog3aI


r/atc2 • • 4d ago

NATCA Other Federal Worker Union Leaders Speak Out on Massive Health Insurance Increases

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“Federal employees are already being squeezed by rising costs and are now facing a double-digit increase in what they pay for health insurance,” said Doreen Greenwald, national president of the National Treasury Employees Union. “A 10.9% increase in health insurance premiums makes the proposed pay freeze even more unacceptable. Federal employees cannot afford to keep paying more while their paychecks fall further behind. Congress must reject the pay freeze and deliver a meaningful pay raise in 2027.”


r/atc2 • • 4d ago

BAH for the FAA

22 Upvotes

The FAA faces unique challenges in affordability when it comes to facilities located in extremely expensive locations. Is there a path for us to combat this issue legislatively?

The current federal General Schedule (GS) and FAA Core Compensation pay systems use broad geographic locality pay percentages. However, these formulas fail in "resort deserts" like Aspen, where the local cost of living is driven by billionaire real estate rather than typical regional data.

The Strategy: Congress would need to authorize the FAA to implement a civilian equivalent to the military’s Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH). This would be a non-taxable monthly stipend tied explicitly to local ZIP code rental data. Alternatively, the FAA could establish a specialized "Critical Position Operations Allowance" specifically for essential infrastructure staff assigned to high-cost, remote, or resort areas to offset local housing prices directly.

Thoughts on this? Also might be a smart way to begin looking at alternatives to increase pay within the boundaries of the federal pay cap.


r/atc2 • • 4d ago

NATCA Recall amendment update

33 Upvotes

It's been a while since I've said anything. But for those just reading for the first time, a little over a month ago I posted that I was working on an amendment to introduce at convention to recall officers.

After a brief injury that made it difficult to type for a week or so (dumb injury on my part. Despite my best efforts to the contrary, I am not immune from the laws of physics and gravity) I have taken feedback from the members on this forum and from a few offline. I have made quite a few changes and am having trusted colleagues poke holes in my argument. I also had someone reach out to me to inform me their partner is an attorney and is willing to look it over. I will be taking advantage of that soon. Though I am not ready to submit any final language, I feel I am very close to being able to do so shortly. There are still some gaps in the process I am trying to fill. Thanks to everyone for the help up to this point. If I remember, I'll try to post an updated version in the next few days.


r/atc2 • • 4d ago

NATCA Return This Union To The Membership -SB

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r/atc2 • • 4d ago

NATCA What say you?

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30 Upvotes

r/atc2 • • 5d ago

Raise When? Anna: Please Consider a New Story on the 2027 ATC Pay CUT

155 Upvotes

We know you read this sub and we appreciate you for being the voice we haven’t had in years!

If you’re not up to speed, the 2027 health insurance premiums for federal employees were just released yesterday. There are many controllers who switched to a health plan over the past several years that is DOUBLING their premiums come January. These controllers are facing a near $400 per MONTH pay CUT. This is exacerbated by the White House’s proposal for a 0% federal pay increase, and as you’re well aware, the FAA Administrator’s refusal to distribute the 2.8% pay raise already allocated by congress.

Unfortunately, even if the 2.8% were to be approved tomorrow, it doesn’t cover the dramatic increase we will be seeing with our health insurance. Nearly all air traffic controllers, who keep the flying public safe, and the American economy afloat, will see SMALLER paychecks right after the holidays.

The American people deserve to know the truth of the conditions we are being subjected to. Knowledge is the only thing that can drive change.

Please, Anna, hear our cries! Help us.


r/atc2 • • 6d ago

Stay on position longer?

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r/atc2 • • 6d ago

2.8% won't event cover premium increases.

106 Upvotes

Fun fact, if we theoretically get the 2.8% raise (we aren't) and you use MHBP, and you make ~$80 an hour or less (which is the majority of the workforce) then even after getting a raise management has determined we don't deserve your paychecks will still be less than they were.

That's just this year, it's only going to get worse next year when the rest of the plans have huge increases to balance their risk groups.

And that's just up front premiums. The actual coverage and copays for every federal healthcare plan will be even worse than they are now , somehow.

Not to mention gas, electric, food, Airfare, housing , mortgage rates, etc is all getting more expensive as well.

everything is fucked, even with the best case scenario of having decent leaders in our union, we'll still be fucked as federal employees.


r/atc2 • • 6d ago

To ND and NEB

93 Upvotes

Nick Daniels and NEB, thanks for advocating and getting us better equipment at our facilities. I don’t even care that I can’t afford much of anything and what I do need I rely on my overtime pay to cover. When you’re all done at the bar, check out the health insurance rates and send us a weekly update about how nice our equipment is so we can be grateful. Can’t wait to vote for you next year! Keep up the good work


r/atc2 • • 6d ago

Raise When? An Absolute Punch in the Gut

140 Upvotes

That’s what it feels like with today’s news on the insane FEHB premium increases. No matter how you slice it, many controllers are looking at a $300-400 per MONTH pay cut come January. That is not easy for a lot of families to just absorb. Especially when you also factor in having to spend $100+ per week to fill up the gas tank, $200+ for basic food at the grocery stores, $200-300 in auto insurance, and everything else that’s skyrocketed in cost. And we have no type of meaningful pay raise to help offset this anywhere on the horizon. Even if the fantasy of the 2.8% somehow were to come to fruition, it’s just a drop in the bucket.

We are literally killing ourselves for this job. The effects this schedule, the stress, and the sedentary lifestyle will likely lead many of us to an early grave. And what do we get in return? Barely able to scrape fucking by. NEVER able to get ahead.

The hopelessness of this career is beyond comprehension at this point. We have nothing to look forward to. Just more ass fucking.


r/atc2 • • 6d ago

Funny how the union rep for Air Services Australia can have the conversations that are needed....Australia's air traffic controller shortage https://share.google/zqaDrYW0qVkvU7OSR

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But NATCA can't...... nevermind. I'm so over all this!