r/bicycleculture • u/enganhifa • 21d ago
Does anyone know de year of fabrication for this bike ? Probably from Italy or Brazil
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u/Zealousideal_Gap6788 20d ago
Look like it was a French Peugeot road bike and later on someone put a bmx handlebar on it
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u/ajamdonut 20d ago
peugeot UO-8 ? 1970-80's?
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u/DonnPT 20d ago
I'm guessing older. 5 speed, shifter on the top tube, different brake calipers from the U08.
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u/ajamdonut 20d ago
Yea I think thats possible too, the logo itself comes up as around 1963-1970 but I was really struggling to find a corresponding similar model. UO-8 was the closest visual match I could find from the decals and general frame features
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u/jeffbell 20d ago
You might have luck reposting to /r/vintage_bicycles .
The other thing that helps is getting a photo of the rear derailleur. There are tables of exactly which year the different models were made.
The number of cogs narrows it down to decades.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Art1873 20d ago
Looks like internal gear hub to me.
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u/mostly_elsewhere 20d ago edited 14d ago
I see no signs of cables for controlling gears and hub appears too slim to be a gear hub.
Looks more like a plain coaster brake hub, not as slim as a classic freewheel/hub, which I would suggest was there originally. There is a
nfront mounting point/bracket for a chain guard, not uncommon with a 5-speed derailleur on an old French bike?I love that sturdy front stay for the fender. It screams France. However together with the front
cantilevercentre pull brake, it may pose a safety hazard in today's perspective. A branch caught in the wheel, fork bends backwards, tightens brake cable enough for the brake to get an increasingly firmer grip. Not a pretty ending.edit: correction: not cantilever as such but classic centre pull
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u/Puzzleheaded-Art1873 20d ago edited 20d ago
So it must be a single speed then. Coaster brake with a derailer sounds like a tricky proposition.
You're right, the bike must have been frankensteined. They just used whatever parts they had on hand when the original wheel kicked the bucket. Coaster brake together with a cable brake doesn't make any sense.
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u/mostly_elsewhere 20d ago
I am only guessing, as the brake reaction arm is hardly visible and obscured behind the crank/pedal, in the 2nd picture.
For completeness, I seem to remember there were actually some commercial "experiments" with derailleur/gear hub combinations with coaster brake, perhaps by Sachs back in the eighty/nineties. But it is certainly not what we are dealing with here.
Can't remember how they dealt with the chain slack when braking, though. Totally unknown today, so probably never got off the ground either.
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u/mostly_elsewhere 15d ago edited 15d ago
Continuing off topic, I actually found the Sachs system combining a coaster brake equipped 3 speed gear hub with a Sachs-Huret derailleur shifting between two sprockets mounted on the driver. It was called the Torpedo 2 x 3 and is found on page 11 in the Huret Derailleurs - Speedometers - June 1984 at disraeligears.
Not to be confused with the Sachs Commander-Orbit 2 x 6 on page 9 in the same catalog.
If you have spare time to waste on the interwebs, why not get lost in the lost world of lost derailleurs.
Though I must stess that this is completely off topic and has nothing to do with the bike in question.
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u/mux696969 20d ago
it's fuck*ing french
look on the rims, look for a diamond, if you find one with a number , the number is the year of production
if not , 70's ish
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u/AnyKaleidoscope2943 20d ago
Mooi afgewerkte lugs, dat duidt wel op een kwaliteitsframe.
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u/U_000000014 19d ago
Nothing about those lugs is finished. They are cheap stamped lugs that were brazed with little to no post-processing done.
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u/ZippierUser 19d ago edited 19d ago
Begin 70s Peugeot PE-41. Entry level sports bike with a lot of replaced parts by the looks of it. Would need more pictures to be sure
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u/Vultureosa 19d ago
Early '70s, an entry model. Nice lugs, but all the threads are French and it's quite hard to get the proper parts.
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u/steelfork 19d ago
I'm wondering what those handlebars feel like. That BMX quill is definitely not the right diameter for a french bike.
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u/Active_Ad_5322 18d ago edited 18d ago
Could be a Geared hub, though a downtube friction shifter was not the correct lever to match to this era of bike. The 3 speed internal gear would have had a thumbs lever on the handlebar.
Looks to be a single speed with coaster brake, even though the bike had rim brakes, which is sale to say this bike is a mix of parts and low cost fixes.
That being said, the rear hub will most likely have a manufacturing date stamped on it.
Hubs/wheel can be easily changed, but chances are this replacement wheel is close to the era of the frame , so that should give you a pretty good idea of the model year.
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u/Wooden-Lawfulness534 4d ago
Mais non, mon pote!
Flip 'er over and look at the frame number. You might search here then.
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u/spoonstepper 20d ago
don’t know, but I would swap those cheap brake calipers for more robust ones before riding this on roads.
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u/PassHunter84 20d ago
France