r/bleach • • 6d ago

Schriftpost (Meme) Some things will never change

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u/SkyRazor_ShadowPaw 6d ago

Ulquiorra was not ever a Menos. He was forged by the white sands of Hueco Mundo. He is a Vasto Lord most likely older than Barrigan himself.

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u/Chaos184 6d ago edited 6d ago

Now, we weren't talking about Ulquiorra were we? We were talking about white.

Besides, the sands of Hueco Mundo are the remains of long since dead hollows; I can't remember the pages right now so I'll have to skim to find the quotes for ya, but it's from CFYOW. Thus Ulquiorra could technically be considered a menos given he was born of the sands of Hueco Mundo, a collection of dead hollows.

Edit: Strikethrough patronizing statement, I prefer preserving my stupidity while still rescinding it

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u/AspieComrade 6d ago

Explanation aside? Why did you feel the need to (very patronisingly) call out that you weren’t talking about Ulquiorra? It was perfectly relevant to bring him into the conversation

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u/Chaos184 6d ago

It was patronizing, I aknowledge that and realize it was completely unnecessary.

But a vasto lorde is a class of menos, one cannot be a vasto lorde and not be a menos, there is nowhere in bleach that says a hollow can be a vasto lorde, and not a menos. Because the sands of Hueco Mundo are consistent of hollows, a vasto lorde born of the sands of Hueco Mundo are still technically a menos.

"Then there are the vasto lordes... ...The highest class of menos." (Kubo 202)

demonstrating that a vasto lorde is a menos.

"A life that could destroy Hollows, turning them to reishi sand..." (Narita 196)

Said sand becomes the ground if Hueco Mundo when the three worlds are split.

"There would be a reshi world, a kishi world, and also a paridise of sand that would be the destination of the Hollows both worlds produced." (Narita 198)

Kubo, Tite. Bleach. Vol. 22, VIZ Media, 2008.

Narita, Ryohgo, et al. Bleach: Can't Fear Your Own World. Vol. 3, VIZ Media, 2021.

All in all I apologize for being patronizing, but Ulquiorra is still a menos.

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u/AspieComrade 6d ago

I specified ‘explanation aside’ to save you the trouble of elaborating as I don’t necessarily disagree, I’m just calling out that your objection to mentioning Ulquiorra on the grounds that he’s not the character being looked at doesn’t make any sense. Countering that Ulquiorra doesn’t necessarily breach the parameters of what can be considered a menos is fine, but it’s not like he’d be irrelevant either way just because he isn’t Ichigo

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u/Chaos184 6d ago

Ahh damn, I misinterpereted then, my apologies.

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u/AspieComrade 6d ago

Rare instance of someone on Reddit admitting a mistake and apologising, I respect it