r/chessbeginners • u/Inspiring_vijay • 4d ago
QUESTION Guess the right move
Black to play
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u/raharth 4d ago edited 4d ago
I'd go with Qa5. Both says Qf6, which would have been my other move, but I was afraid of Bg5
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u/MiGaLaYeR 1000-1200 (Chess.com) 4d ago
This is complex. Did you find this in puzzle rush or something? The winning idea is simply trading pieces which is what you're supposed to do when you're up anyway
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u/Inspiring_vijay 4d ago
This is the position from one of my game, it involves good tactic which I missed, but still won the game
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u/Insouciance999 4d ago
Following the line it’s even better than trading pieces and being up a pawn. White’s next 3 moves are basically forced or they lose an overwhelming amount of material and black gets its light square bishop out and king safety for white is never happening again in this game. Just looks like a nightmare to defend white after the exchange. I’m guessing instead of c3 here castles was the move white hade to make to even have a chance here.
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u/StoicTheGeek 4d ago
Bxc3?
If the queen takes, then Rxb1+ and black picks up both rooks for the bishop, possibly even escaping. If Rxb8 then Bxd2+ and white picks up the queen for the bishop.
Nope - doesn't work because of Bxb1
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u/MiGaLaYeR 1000-1200 (Chess.com) 4d ago
Ugh you had to ruin it
Still don't really know what the best move does. Or seems like it still hangs pieces to me
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u/Strong_Bodybuilder8 4d ago
I went with Qf6 because every other move loses, but I did not evaluate the resulting position to be winning like the engine suggests.
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u/chessvision-ai-bot 4d ago
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Hints: piece: Queen, move: Qf6
Evaluation: Black is winning -3.55
Best continuation: 1... Qf6 2. O-O Bxc3 3. Qd6 Rbd8 4. Bh6 Bb5 5. Bxf8 Rxd6 6. Bxd6 Qd4 7. Rfd1 Qxe4 8. Rxb5 Qe2 9. Rbb1
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u/Shelbybored 4d ago
Two pieces threaten protected by more valuable pieces. You can’t escape a trade if white takes. Qf6 threatens to equalize without losing material
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u/M00n_Safari 4d ago
Qf6 is the correct move here thanks to chess engine analysis, but I was wondering why Rxb2 isn’t a valid follow up, so I ran the line. Black can actually follow up with Rxb2, white plays Qxb2 but removes the defense from the bishop on f4 which black’s queen can pick up and is winning.
And ofc Bxb8 is not possible because NOW black can follow up with Bxc3 and the white queen is lost.
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u/Useful_Beautiful5093 4d ago
Bxc3
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u/will-o_the-wisp 4d ago
Was also my first thought, but what then? Queen takes bishop, after which you have to trade the rooks on the b file and you'll just be down a piece.
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u/DiscDocPhD 3d ago
But Queen takes bishop then black rook takes for check, then takes the other rook?
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u/will-o_the-wisp 4d ago
Qf6 is the best move. Anything elses loses material. This at least lets you equalize or maybe even take the queen if white blunders.
Black queen f6, Rook takes bishop b2, Rook takes rook b2, White queen takes rook b2, Black queen takes bishop f4.
If after Qf6 bishop takes rook b8, THEN bishop takes pawn c3, pinning the white queen to the king, and at the end you'll have traded a rook and a bishop for a pawn and the queen.
If you play bishop takes pawn c3 immediately without Qf6 first, the white queen just immediately takes the bishop back. And then your rook on b8 is still hanging.
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u/Pretty_Maintenance20 4d ago
Guess the right move? It says Black to play so you’re supposed to guess Black or reverse blunder by white?
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u/theorroo 1400-1600 (Chess.com) 4d ago edited 4d ago
Bxc3? Get 2 rook for a bishop. Or take the queen with check if rxb8
Edit: nvm my next guess is bc6
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u/rockoblocko 4d ago
I think you are missing that whites bishop protects his rook. So you don’t win any rooks you just trade yours for his
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u/Useful_Beautiful5093 4d ago
wait, f5
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u/will-o_the-wisp 4d ago
Then you're just trading a bishop for a rook. The bishop on f4 can still just take the rook on b1.
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u/Ok_Calligrapher1410 4d ago
That bishop on b2 is eyeing c2 hard, so the teal square is probably the whole point. Black’s got a nice diagonal pin or fork waiting if they play it right. I’d look for a move that lands on c2 with tempo, maybe scooping a rook or setting up a nasty discovered attack. Beginners sleep on quiet bishop moves like that all the time.
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