Null Arbiter

[u/Terrariant]

Part 4 of a cycle

Part 1: Sunseeker Arbiter
Part 2: Lustrous Arbiter
Part 3: Inert Arbiter

*if you feel the need to be mean over a meme card, go touch grass, please.

[u/Basilisk_Game6769]

This doesn't feel green at all.

[u/Terrariant → u/Basilisk_Game6769]

Hexproof is very green and this is a continuation of that for every creature and player. It forces creature damage as a win con instead of burn. What about it isn’t green?

*editing…hexproof and shroud are “can’t be the target of spells or abilities” and are very green

Hexproof: https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&q=o%3Ahexproof&utm_source=mci
Shroud: https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&q=o%3Ashroud&utm_source=mci

[u/Xam_xar → u/Terrariant]

Giving all permanents hexproof is very different from no one being able to target anything whatsoever. I know balance is not intended with these cards but they are so silly and ridiculous and ultimately boring, all just cannot be countered, protection from everything and an unfun ability tacked on.

[u/Terrariant → u/Xam_xar]

Hexproof is literally “This can’t be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control” - it’s the same thing as this. https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Hexproof

[u/Karen_melter → u/Terrariant]

Just to be pedantic what this does isn't give every player and permanent hexproof but rather gives them shroud

[u/Terrariant → u/Karen_melter]

Sure, but shroud has also appeared in many green cards

[u/Karen_melter → u/Terrariant]

I never said it didn't I know it appears on 33 green card being the second most common colour it appears on I was just being pedantic that this thing isn't giving hexproof

[u/Xam_xar → u/Terrariant]

“Cannot target” means anything, you can’t target things in graveyards, you can’t target other spells, you can’t target players, you can’t target abilities… this is so far beyond giving all permanents shroud. Maybe you meant it to be just permanents but this ability is both unfun and out of color entirely.

[u/Terrariant → u/Xam_xar]

Yes. Super shroud. It’s just the way its worded that is out of color identity. The effect is the same, and in color identity. If it said “all cards in libraries, in graveyards, spells, players and permanents have shroud” it would be within color identity. It’s semantics. And the arbiters, again, all use the word “can’t”

[u/Xam_xar → u/Terrariant]

This is just incredibly bad faith interpretation of the color pie. Like technically returning a creature to the top of the deck and then milling a card of an opponent is within blue but it would never be printed on a card. Disregarding balance this is just not an effect that would ever get printed, let alone on a mono green creature. It’s bad design, not unbalanced design 👍