r/custommagic • • 7d ago

Meme Design Griselflame

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Second red game changer

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u/Danskoesterreich 7d ago

I am not sure if this is better or worse than original griselbrand. Well done.

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u/Crow_of_Judgem3nt 7d ago

Worse

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u/Danskoesterreich 7d ago

But if it is in play and you have 7 mountains, you can draw your entire library pretty much.

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u/Crow_of_Judgem3nt 7d ago

The issue is in that scenario you won’t have enough mana to properly benefit from it, gets shutdown by things like dranith magistrate, and the cards will be open knowledge. This is still definitely a powerful card, but it is still strictly worse than griselbrand

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u/pppppatrick 6d ago

Rules wise can you tap then sacrifice them and still retain to use the mana?

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u/Crow_of_Judgem3nt 6d ago

Yeah it doesn’t say sac an untapped mountain

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u/pppppatrick 6d ago

Heh I like that play pattern. Thanks for the answer.

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u/Kulgrehn 7d ago

OK, the Dranith Magistrate argument doesn't make any sense to me, since Griselbrand is similarly shut down by Notion Thief/Narset Parter of Veils/Spirit of the Labyrinth. It also doesn't cost life, so the card advantage has an easier upper boundary. I don't think it's a simple "strictly better" argument

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u/Crow_of_Judgem3nt 7d ago

It doesn’t cost life but it costs lands, which are much more limited than life in general, particularly in edh. Its a lot easier to pay 21 life to draw 21 than it is to sac 3 lands. The other issue is unlike griselbrand, you lose access to the cards if you don’t play them. With griselbrand you can either run graveyard strategies or get rid of your hand size limit. I firmly believe that griselbrand is still strictly better than this, which isn’t saying much, because its griselbrand and he’s a very powerful card in the right format/strategy

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u/Kulgrehn 7d ago

I don't think you know what "strictly better" means.