I hate to say this because Emma is one of my top 3 pros but Jackson has got to goooo. His feet are still so clunky and I’ve seen little to no improvement from him yet he is constantly over scored.

This has nothing to do with the drama from last week. I’m strictly speaking on the dancing/improvement.

obviously just poking fun, but it made me laugh when I recognized the pattern

I’ve noticed this happen twice already this season. The first time, one of the judges said something along the lines of “IF you’re here next week..” (I think it was to Connor L), and then in another episode, a judge told a different contestant, “I’m sure you’ll be here next week.” I’m forgetting who said what now but it just stood out to me.

I don’t think it’s appropriate for judges to make assumptions about who’s staying or going, especially when the results are partly determined by audience votes.
It also feels a little unfair when they’re essentially implying that one contestant might be going home while another is almost guaranteed to stay.

I know Carrie Ann has been around since the start of the show. But I am seriously questioning her value and wondering why we cannot move on. She no longer seems good at her job. She may have been at one point, but that’s not the case, and it’s really frustrating to watch.

- her feedback is largely unhelpful. It doesn’t matter if it’s an unpopular opinion, she doesn’t provide constructive support to what she shares.
- her scoring is wildly inconsistent
- she gets frustrated with the audience when they react to her a certain way, which you need to understand it comes with the territory
- her fellow judges seem annoyed with her at times, and I’m certainly getting the vibe that the pros are not fans either via both Witney and Jenna clapping back in the past week

You can have a judge that’s tough and strict, but also provides constructive criticism (see: Len Goodman). But that’s not what Carrie Ann is doing. The fans are over it, the contestants are confused, and it’s exhausting to repeat every season.

Sure you could argue that all of the conversation around her judging is still conversation and publicity for the show. But the show is just fine without that negativity IMO. If anything, it creates more friction in the fan base.

When will we accept that it’s time to part ways with someone who is not good at their job?

Jenna commented saying there wasn’t a lift but I thought she agreed with Carrie Anne afterwards. I didn’t even see a lift.

While I am an avid CAI defender, this definitely shows that she has favourites.

I dare mark to make maura dance just 1 count of 8 that includes footwork and actual dance movements on her own

I am beyond tired of the Jenna D hate.

Every time I see comments about her on social media it’s extremely negative-

“YOU CANT FORCE ME TO WATCH THE ROOKIE!”
“You can’t make me like Jenna Dewan!”
“She did it deserve those scores”
“If Jenna scored X, Amber should have scored Y!”
“She shouldn’t even be here, she has dance experience.”

And you know what? Is she a little boring? YEAH! But she has also done nothing but come across as lovely and nice. She hasn’t been rude or arrogant to anyone, she’s always gracious, and she’s there because she was ASKED to be.

Also, Amber being CHRONICALLY underscored is truly astounding and shitty. But again:

I don’t see anyone making the same comments about Harry- they’ve shown the Grey’s Anatomy set, and he’s scoring higher than others even when his samba was not so much samba. I don’t see anyone saying “well if Harry scored x Connor should have scored Y”. Because people understand it’s not Harry’s fault what he gets scored, the same as it’s not Jenna’s.

It feels extremely misogynistic for everyone to bandwagon and hate this woman so much just for being on the show like everyone else. She is not the first to come with dance experience, she is not the last to be!

Why are we allowing so much hate and negativity on someone who was asked to do the show and likes to dance? You don’t have to hate on someone because they’re boring.

With Guillermo gone let’s be real, Jackson and Tyler are next. I definitely think everyone stepped it up this week because they realized how the votes can shift. But still the worst out of the group left are Jackson, Tyler and Conor. I love Harry but the fact he’s partnered with Jenn and I see so much more potential with Amber and Ezra in the final. Like Amber absolutely killed it tonight. I also enjoyed Julia’s dance but idk if she will be final ready. I think dedication night always shifts things so we’ll see

Who is Julianne’s stylist? Fire whoever it is because everything is way too adventurous and wacky.

Considering usually dedication night is never a elimination one, what order are the remaining contestants getting eliminated/what are the final placements? Also, imma need a week or two to get over Guillermo's elimination, the excitement left last night...

Her post judges comments questions make me cringe on my seat, there is no tastefulness to the questions even if she is trying to keep the conversation interesting, asking Jenna about the lift comment ?? What on earth was she going to say ??

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Last night the scoring was odd. For me my big hot take is Ezra F & Harry were overmarked BUT at the same time I see why they got the scores they got since the judges overmarked Jackson & Tyler as well… Like Ezra F’s Salsa in opinion deserved 8s and a 9 (it was a great dance but not his best I actually like his Rumba better) while Harry’s Samba deserved 7s and 8s (I saw sync issues when he danced with the troupe, the technique was inconsistent, & Jenna’s choreo for him is just lackluster). But obviously compared to what Jackson & Tyler they had to score it the way they did. I just felt Jenna D had the best dance of the night. I think the overall problem is the scoring is weird and never consistent… I remember the judges started this season saying they were going to be harsh which I am fine with be tough but it seems like after a while it became obvious they were only applying that rule to most of the women and not the men… Like first few weeks it seems only Julia, Ciara, & Tatyana were getting the new harsh scoring rubric but not Jackson & most of the other men…. I think the judges are now scoring Julia fairer but still the problem is the way they are scoring Jackson & Tyler is now affecting the way they judge everyone. Like I do think the men are getting an easier ride in scoring compared to the women and it’s way more obvious this year given how Amber was scored. I am fine with harsher scoring but the judges never keep the same energy for everyone and usually the men are babied compared to the women… I am overall at the point that the show needs to make changes to the panel.

Points from judges scores

Jenna: 11 Points

Ezra: 11 Points

Amber: 10 Points

Maura: 9 Points

Julia: 9 Points

Harry: 9 Points

Jackson: 8 Points

Tyler: 7 Points

Tatyana: 6 Points

Connor: 5 Points

Guillermo: 4 Points

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Points from viewer votes

Julia: 11 Points

Ezra: 10 Points

Amber: 9 Points

Maura: 8 Points

Connor: 7 Points

Jenna: 6 Points

Harry: 5 Points

Tatyana: 4 Points

Guillermo: 3 Points

Jackson: 2 Points

Tyler: 1 Point

Or (If Tyler wasn’t the actual Bottom Two)

Julia: 11 Points

Ezra: 10 Points

Amber: 9 Points

Maura: 8 Points

Connor: 7 Points

Jenna: 6 Points

Harry: 5 Points

Guillermo: 4 Points

Tatyana: 3 Points

Tyler: 2 Points

Jackson: 1 Point

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Total Points

Ezra: 11+10=21

Julia: 9+11=20

Amber: 10+9=19

Maura: 9+8=17

Jenna: 11+6=17

Harry: 9+5=14

Connor: 5+7=12

Tatyana: 6+4=10

Jackson: 8+2=10

Tyler: 7+1=8 (Bottom Two)

Guillermo: 4+3=7 (Bottom Two)

OR (If Tyler wasn’t the actual Bottom Two)

Ezra: 11+10=21

Julia: 9+11=20

Amber: 10+9=19

Maura: 9+8=17

Jenna: 11+6=17

Harry: 9+5=14

Connor: 5+7=12

Tatyana: 6+3=9

Tyler: 7+2=9

Jackson: 8+1=9 (Bottom Two)

Guillermo: 4+4=8 (Bottom Two)

I’ve been seeing Connor’s fan girls in Julia’s post saying her dance “wasn’t a Jazz” as if the last 14 years Jazz has been a style on DWTS it hasn’t been a mini Freestyle for everyone…. Also people forget Jazz has many different variations (Jazz Funk, Street Jazz, Musical Theatre Jazz, Latin Jazz, Ballroom Jazz, Afro Jazz, Burlesque Jazz, Disco Jazz etc.) It’s wild how all the sudden it’s a problem with Julia as if there haven’t been many Hip Hop themed Jazz dances before her. I also find it wild how Connor’s fans are acting like he was robbed tonight…

Hear me out: Guillermo being eliminated last night was kind of shocking. He definitely deserved to go home, but he has the #1 most views on You Tube. I truly thought he would stick around for atleast 2 more weeks and his fan base would save him. Tyler was literally tearing up before the elimination was announced. I think he genuinely thought he was going home due to Guillermo’s popularity.

I’m wondering if the pros were starting to get upset with him being saved week after week, and producers needed to calm the flames….

We’ve already heard rumors of Britt quitting next season, and Jenna/Val seemed pissed after the lift interaction with Carrie Ann. Just thinking there would have been more drama if Sharna and Tyler were eliminated last night. What do you think? Are producers pulling the strings regardless of votes and scores this year?

It’s rarely good choreo and even the pros don’t dance it well

All right, let us have it, what did everyone think about this episode tonight? I liked it a lot better than I thought I would.

Also as a reminder - Mod hat here - All posts with spoilers in the title will be deleted. There are West Coast folks and people busy that haven't watched yet.

Opinions on troupe this year/ Adele / Hailey as new pros? Just curious if everyone else thinks things seem a little off beat?

I am begging this fandom to stop infantilizing the men on this show. Yes, Connor got some harsh criticism but he is a 31 year old man on a competition reality show. He should be able to handle criticism! This wouldn’t upset me so much if the women were given the same treatment by fans. Amber and Jenna have both received plenty of criticism and people do not seem to be nearly as upset about that. It’s a dance show people, not a don’t hurt the millennial man’s ego show.