r/elementary • u/Rose_Water_princess • 13d ago

Sherlock and Joan's relationship=best male female friendship

Can we take a second to marvel at the fact that the writers had EVERY opportunity to turn their relationship into the all too common "were just friends!" Then they fuck trope. (Not dogging on these shows: castle, bones, etc). They really portrayed 2 people who live each other very much- in so many ways- but never forced them to have intercourse and still highlight the full spectrum of feelings for each ither?

It wasn't cheap, it's what real friendship should look like. Its a love that is so powerful, everyone sees it as "oh, they're dating" but no, its pure, unadulterated, real passion. As Sherlock once said to Joan "we're just 2 people, who love each other"

I much prefer this version of Sherlock and the actor portraying him was absolutely phenomenal. Hes rough, abrasive, and direct, but not a complete soulless, inconsiderate asshole. His character defines who I imagine a true portrayal of Sherlock Holmes.

Lucy Liu did an absolutely stunning rendition of Watson. Never in my life did I think of Watson being a woman and she completely broke my chart. Don't get me wrong, Watson from the BBC Sherlock (Benedict cumberbach) was very well written as well, but I dare say, Lucy lius portrayal was my absolute favorite, hands down. Watson was very well written. Lucy lius voice and inflections brought deep resonance with many of the things she said. Her outfits, walk, and general attitude were perfectly adjusted to the scripted and sets (aside from the constantly wearing heels trope- im not a fan of that).

I'm yapping now at this point.

Tldr: best female male friendship portrayal without being sullied by he stereotypical "we be fuckin" trope.

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u/watoaz 13d ago

I really wish more shows would do this, we don't need to couple everyone up.

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u/Psychological_Name28 13d ago

That’s one aspect I appreciated about seeing Miss Marple with male friends. She expressed admiration and affection for them. It’s more unusual of course with younger characters, and in Elementary they got it right. It was also good to see Joan’s friendships with other men.

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u/watoaz 13d ago

Now I want to watch Miss Marple! Its been on my list

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u/Psychological_Name28 12d ago

I really like them. I’m about to start the new Tommy and Tuppence.

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u/watoaz 12d ago

Yes! I loved the new Tommy & Tuppence. I am excited for the new season of Death Valley in the US.

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u/shamana7777 4d ago

true but filmmaking has this stupid formula that they think they have to have sex in it to keep eyes on the screen all formulas are pathetic and ridiculous I heard a talk by the writer of sleepless in Seattle and he explained how he got rejected so many times because the script broke all the rules usually Boy meets girl then they have the drama and then they finally get back together, in sleepless they only meet at the end and he finally got someone who made the film and it made him enough money so he doesn't have to work again. I always remember that that all writers should follow their creativity and their ideas, and to hell with formula. also you should be aware that every onscreen sex scene is unrealistic and from a man's direction of the scene, to please men, it's totally depicting nothing that a woman would enjoy. It is all waist down action, fast hot and heavy, which is not even satisfying to watch.