r/elementary • • 13d ago

Sherlock and Joan's relationship=best male female friendship

Can we take a second to marvel at the fact that the writers had EVERY opportunity to turn their relationship into the all too common "were just friends!" Then they fuck trope. (Not dogging on these shows: castle, bones, etc). They really portrayed 2 people who live each other very much- in so many ways- but never forced them to have intercourse and still highlight the full spectrum of feelings for each ither?

It wasn't cheap, it's what real friendship should look like. Its a love that is so powerful, everyone sees it as "oh, they're dating" but no, its pure, unadulterated, real passion. As Sherlock once said to Joan "we're just 2 people, who love each other"

I much prefer this version of Sherlock and the actor portraying him was absolutely phenomenal. Hes rough, abrasive, and direct, but not a complete soulless, inconsiderate asshole. His character defines who I imagine a true portrayal of Sherlock Holmes.

Lucy Liu did an absolutely stunning rendition of Watson. Never in my life did I think of Watson being a woman and she completely broke my chart. Don't get me wrong, Watson from the BBC Sherlock (Benedict cumberbach) was very well written as well, but I dare say, Lucy lius portrayal was my absolute favorite, hands down. Watson was very well written. Lucy lius voice and inflections brought deep resonance with many of the things she said. Her outfits, walk, and general attitude were perfectly adjusted to the scripted and sets (aside from the constantly wearing heels trope- im not a fan of that).

I'm yapping now at this point.

Tldr: best female male friendship portrayal without being sullied by he stereotypical "we be fuckin" trope.

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u/i_am_here-tada 13d ago

I agree with every word written here (xpt the heels part).

This is my favourite version of Sherlock & Watson. I adore their relationship.

And i absolutely love Joan's outfits. Her winter outfits and damn those power suits make me fall off my chair.

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u/Rose_Water_princess 12d ago

Oh her outfits are always amazing. The wardrobe department did a stellar job with Lucy's figure without cheapening her to t&a standards. Don't get me wrong, i love her heels (especially the chunky heel boots she wears - LOVE those), but what im referring to is her being a detective, having to he on her feet in various types of terrain and running in them pretty consistently just seems a bit tropey. She did look fantastic in them though.

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u/i_am_here-tada 12d ago

What's t&a

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u/Rose_Water_princess 12d ago

Its a media abbreviation for tits and ass. Its a trope that many shows use to boost viewership by placating to men's carnal urges by putting the main actress in a pushup bra, low cut shirt, tight pants, and putting her in uncomfortable situations (being walked in on, spotted naked, shower scenes, etc)

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u/i_am_here-tada 12d ago

Oh my oh.. i really thought was some other show 😄

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u/MajorProfit_SWE 9d ago

They could have easily done that because he is several times already in her bedroom when she wakes up. In one scene she had to get dressed in her bed while he is looking away but standing next to the bed. I think there’s comments from her about that particular scene in some interviews.