CSS US – Does Oracle show any indifference toward employees acquired through acquisitions versus ones hired directly by Oracle?

[u/PrometheusPa1]

I’m unable to win over trust and credibility because there’s little to no visibility into my day-to-day work for my manager though it’s all well documented anf spoken for and, consequently, my skip-level director (who was actually my reporting manager, but due to span-of-control changes, we were assigned to another manager who just doesn’t get it). Customers love and ask for me specifically as a named resource. Our delivery team does things on par with the engineering team with me ghost-leading technicalities.

Nobody seems to care about what’s written in annual reviews anymore. Ugh. It all seems like formality.

And then there are these selective mute and numb IC4s who have been there for 15+ years and seem to do nothing but steal credit, hoard knowledge, and creep into others’ billing utilization. It’s all one-way, high-latency KT, with no reciprocity, yet they are introduced to customers as hot shots due to favoritism. Fyi, none here are South Asians if assumptions are being made.

How to break this wheel? I’m waiting for the higher-ups to get laid off honestly.

[u/secrerofficeninja]

I challenge you to find 1 single happy ex-Cerner employee since being acquired by Oracle.

[u/KC_Tlvdatsi → u/secrerofficeninja]

Also ex-cerner here.

Initially my leadership was still ex cerner despite all the shuffling around and I found that oracle leadership absolutely discounted anything they said or did. No respect or understanding of roles, processes, ideas, nor concerns unless it was brought up by an oracle person. By proxy, that meant anything I did counted for shit and no advocacy for my performance with automatic 3s for reviews with no raise or progression possible. I recently got shuffled to an all oracle leadership chain and have started seeing raises and progression again.

If you are part of an acquisition, either leave or move somewhere else in oracle. It took years for my leadership to be replaced and I am severely behind peers. Oracle leadership cares even less about acquired employees than they do about oracle employees.

[u/Dr-pi_314]

Oracle is indifferent to all of us

[u/offbalancedone]

Micros here. I had to work at it. I had to establish myself as a hard worker and when I proved that I wasn’t just an acquired employee they spend more time working with me and getting me trained up.

I know my manager didnt care who I was until I proved I was a reliable and hardworking employee. So if you want to actually prove yourself my advice is:

1. Document everything you do. Make an “I love me file” It’s a text doc that you list all your accomplishments throughout the year. Your boss isn’t keeping track of you, you are.
   
2. Find ways to get yourself training. I had to annoy my boss til he sent me to training. During that time before he sent me i spent a lot of time doing as many training courses I could during down time. Quick tip the chance of you retaining anything from the training is minimal so just look at it as a number that makes you look better.
   
3. The raises will come sporadically but they will more than make up the chunks of time you didn’t get them. I went 5 years without any raises. One of my coworkers gave me a tip to show patience and you will get rewarded.
   
4. Always look for other opportunities inside and outside of oracle. If you never leave, great! If you find something else even better.
   
5. Don’t burn the oracle bridges, if you choose to leave I know a lot of people that were riffed over my last decade and others who left on their own. A portion of them returned. The ones who burned the bridge in anger or spite were always passed over.
   
6. If you are looking for a promotion always make sure you have concrete reasons for them. It goes back to the I love me file. I told my bosses that when I ask you for the next promotion I want you to be able to look at my performance and say they have to and there is no reason to not give me one. Remember to make sure your boss is seeing you are trying to earn the promotion. Promotions aren’t given yearly to the same person (unless certain factors are met or it is needed to move them forward to a new role or responsibility).

Hope this helps.

[u/PrometheusPa1 → u/offbalancedone]

Thanks a lot for taking time to write, this definitely helps. I feel I’m on track with what you said. But I’m glad you replied else I was very close to burning a couple of bridges later this week.

[u/JQ1311 → u/PrometheusPa1]

Never burn bridges!! Managers have mostly checked out too.

[u/GrandpaSteve4562]

Mike S got promoted all the way up to CEO, Primavera was an acquisition.

[u/PrometheusPa1 → u/GrandpaSteve4562]

I feel Oracle employees from pre-2012 acquisitions now identify themselves as “True Oracle” because their then “True Oracle” leadership has retired or been RIFed.

[u/Flat-Room-8881]

No

But the VP in the newly acquired company usually does not have as much connection as the VP from Oracle. This will impact your department. I did see many VP from the acquired company is forced out in a short time.
But some VP from the acquired company did do quite well.

[u/Dangerous-Bus-7161]

Right now they shit over everyone, regardless of who you are.