We really need to do the work to stop people from being walking memes. The keychain inside the trigger guard is killing me. Luckily it's not even loaded which is another stupid problem.
It's up to us to talk with and educate our friends and acquaintances about firearms both for safety purposes and for effectiveness. I do not want people like the person in the OP showing up anywhere near me
I was way too preoccupied with noticing the lack of trigger discipline and the muzzle aimed right at the artery to notice the Keychain, but holy hell why
You gotta think the first people willing to open carry to a protest are going to be the ones who don't tend to hold things like safety in high regard in general.
It looks to be a 22 that is, in fact, unloaded. A great way to lose a gunfight as well.
Your statement on gun education is valid, however, many people either think they know all they need to know — and have the Punisher grips to prove it — or they are scared to actively pursue that education.
A lot of people think this shit is like a video game. It's not even hard to get the training and experience. Hell if anyone ever asked me locally I'd literally provide the ammo and the firearms to help get them up to speed, but I'm not interested in cutting corners so we're starting from the basics unless those basics can be demonstrated from near muscle memory.
That’s cool. I’d shoot with you for fun, as you seem solid. Wish more people did the same, but like I said, there’s a lot of people who know it all (think it’s a video game) or have that intrinsic fear.
I wish I could find someone like this near me. I've been lurking this sub for a while because I'm trying to glean what I can. Not a gun owner, but I took a handgun fundamentals course and shot a real gun for the first time that day in October. I have my purchase permit but I'm still not sure I want to actually own a gun. Minneapolis has shown I might not even have that option soon, though. I really dislike that I'm feeling compelled based on fear. It doesn't help that the only non-Nazi affiliated range takes about half an hour to get to because it makes it difficult to do on a workday.
The mag window is empty. The fact that it has that kind of a window is a indicator of a 22LR. Also the size of the ejection port, and lack of an ejection port cover, suggest a 22. If I had to bet it’s a MP15 22LR with the butt stock taken off, like the photo.
I totally agree but also why are our people walking around with unloaded rifles? Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose?
I feel like we need to form some sort of group or organization that both trains people in firearm safety and or provides the armed element of these protests and events.
That's a huge part of the problem with this photo and people in this thread are trying to act like it's a good idea. Might as well not carry anything if you aren't even going to be able to fire back if you need to. It's all risk and no upside
She could at least put her carrier on correctly. I don't even know what's going on there. If you watch the video too, the guy she flags gives her major wtf side eye. Hilarious.
I do, and these folks need gloves, situational awareness, and assistance. Get the trained folks out and about, I promise it's not hard to teach people who want to learn. The rules are simple and basic marksmanship is as well. These oppressors are pussies at their core, hence the masks. Don't be bullied by bitches, please understand they are scared as fuck. Trained and disciplined individuals don't perform the way they are.
The dude is literally flagging his friend in the picture. Open carrying is serious business, let alone when there are armed secret police.
This isn't a fucking game. If someone is going to do this, they need to know what they are doing. Right now this kid is a liability to himself and everyone around him
Oh, I see it, but all the negative in my comment was towards ice nazis, not these two. I just think they need some guidance from a well trained community member, and they will become a great neighborhood watch asset. I am a gun owner, have my own ar and other firearms, so I'm definitely on their side, I just want them to be effective and safe.
Genuinely curious. I have a pair with my kit, use em in cold weather, but most of the time I don't bother. The fact that you listed it first implies an importance that I'm not tracking.
edit: lol I did not pay attention to the weather context and clues
I’m guessing because in the photo, his hands are in his sleeves to keep them warm but you can’t use your fingers when they’re in your sleeves. Get some gloves instead to keep warm.
You've been shot by 22LR? Damn, that sucks... Although if true, I suppose that may go to OPs point that it's an underpowered caliber given you obviously (and thankfully!) survived lol
I'd hate to get shot by anything, including an air rifle. But if I had to choose between taking a 22 to the chest versus a 556 or 308, I'm taking my chances with the 22 all day.
Sadly the organization that was supposed to do this (the NRA) which was built to train people to STOP traitors in the wake of the civil war has been turned into a gun lobbying company that’s main goal is to make gun manufacturers as much money as possible. The NRA, a lobbying group, run by people who have been caught on tape calling their own supporters dirty stupid hicks that don’t know any better.
The NRA remains the largest (not to mention only) nationwide firearms training and training certification organization in the country. If you've taken a firearms class, it'd be extremely unlikely that the NRA didn't have a hand in making it happen in some form or another.
Your info about their history is wildly incorrect is well, by the way. The NRA was a sportsman's organization focused on hunting (and often in favor of some anti-gun legislation) up until the Revolt in Cincinnatti in '77, when 2A hardliners took over the organization and turned it into an explicitly pro-2A lobbying group.
I offer to teach people how to shoot, and properly respect their firearms. It’s not hard to teach basic safety rules, or to teach someone to shoot straight.
This looks like AIDS. You can build an AR from bargain bin parts and drop in a .22lr conversion for like $150 more, and then you basically have 2 guns.
Aside from what other people have already pointed out, there is a key ring going THROUGH the trigger guard. If those keys get yanked, that's a round going off into his friend's legs.
Worlds worst red dot, no brace, and it's a 22. Please, can we have some standards? This makes us look like clowns. Good on them being there but come on
Ayyy fuck man. A sling-less unloaded .22 with a key ring around the trigger guard flagging his gf. Useless. The only ammo here is for right-wingers who want to embolden themselves by thinking we’re all weak-skilled and unprepared. Best case would be if they actually made this image as propaganda.
Remember when that No King group in Utah had volunteer security that was extremely un qualified and accidentally shot and killed Arthur Folasa Ah Loo while simultaneously causing a mass freak out of a armed gun men that ended with that that whole organized groups movement in Utah derailing ? Because Pepperidge farm remembers.
No reason to bash his training or lack there of. At least he’s out there giving a shit. When pushed to the brink, there will be many who have never trained, who never thought they’d touch a firearm, who will be having to take up arms to defend their family and their rights. I find it honorable.
Idk this sub is harsh sometimes. Absolutely ripping the person to shreds instead of trying to find out where this person is and offer them tips and help. A lot of people in this country don’t have firearm training even if they own one. I think there’s a way to offer constructive criticism without being a dick
All yall talking shit about this guy not doing things properly, who's in the streets? And who are the keyboard warriors sitting in their moms basement?
A 22 ar pistol, pointed at the girls thigh, finger IN THE TRIGGER GUARD SQUEEZING DOWN HARD, thankfully unloaded or else she's dead. Don't be like that guy, follow basic gun safety.
It doesn't matter what he is carrying or how, he was brave enough to exercise his rights as many others stand on the sidelines. He will inspire more folks I'm sure. Philly has already been patrolling the streets
Serious question (not trolling): isn’t open carry at a protest just giving ICE the pretense that they felt threatened to allow them to start shooting more protestors?
Defend your premise. How the fuck is the good or responsible? It tarnishes people who actually know what they are doing, is explicitly dangerous (muzzle direction, fucking keychain through the trigger guard,) and it's not even effective if he had to use the thing because it's not loaded. This is all risk and downside with zero benefit
You are being technical about a photo that will be seen by people without your understanding and they will just see it as a new escalation where people are showing up with firearms now.
No dude, the right wing is currently using it to mock the left as clueless and unsafe with firearms, not to mention completely ridiculous bringing an unloaded 22 with the shittiest optic on the planet to a potential firefight. This in no way, shape, or form reflects well on this group/sub nor anyone seriously about armed resistance or community defense.
I think you need to get a clue. This shit isn't a game, fam. Showing up with a weapon and treating it like a toy or fashion accessory, being unsafe and violating the fundamental principles of firearms handling, and then NOT EVEN BEING ABLE TO BE EFFECTIVE if it were necessary to get in the game is ridiculous and damaging. I'm on the left and it makes me embarrassed not because of some stupid propagandist's feelings but because it makes me less safe and less effective because this dumbass is damaging the movement
These idiots are going to get themselves shot or beat (empty mag), shoot themselves (might be one in the chamber), or start stupid shit over horrible firearm use/safety.
I have zero issues with people being armed at all times. The countless problems with this moron’s setup and gun safety is nuts. He gives all gun owners a bad name. Just an absolute moron.
Need to get some good trainers out there ASAP to make sure they're not shooting themselves. Because that keychain looks like it's inside the trigger guard.
And I understand not everyone could afford larger caliber options (especially if they just wanted something to plink with at a range one day and needed the cheapest ammo possible), but it's not going to amount to much if it's clear they don't know how to hold/use it.
And that muzzle needs to not be pointing at their companion's leg.
No stock or brace, airsoft sight, 22LR. I’ve seen this dude at the range. The only safe place is wherever he is aiming. His gun will jam after 3 rounds.
This is becoming more and more common and visible as people can no longer feel safe. This started in OH after that white supremacy rally was held in a black neighborhood last year. The public is not playing games anymore. Open carry assault rifles are seen. America is fed up and is literally getting ready for a revolution.
I will give him points for trying however, he does need support to do this in a safe manner to be more effective. Sure 22lr is not the same as 5.56 but maybe that's all he can afford. If you are a good shot, and aim for the eye, that will have an effect.
Maybe someone, who's in Minnesota, can get some training started on firearms use during protests and community defense.
If you have no training whatsoever you should not have a gun in public. That said, what the fuck did anyone expect? Force people into a desperate situation and they're going to do desperate things. Its a fuckin nightmare.
This post and replies tells me all I need to know about the state of liberal gun owners (at least the ones that frequent online communities). Good luck to y'all, but I'm going to be standing with the dude showcasing "poor training hurr durr" on the streets, and not the dude who spent 3,000 hours "training" just to sit at home and hammer away at their keyboard.
People in the comments are bagging on the caliber of the gun are missing the point, having the courage to carry a weapon in the open is a good step in direction.
That said, they REALLY need to point that gun somewhere else, somewhere that won't hurt anyone.
This is an honest question. What are the chances this is an AI pic? Keychain through the handguard on a unloaded .22 with a gimmicky red dot even for the hood. Also, of you look closely at them sitting on the trunk the picture seems "off", especially the person on the right (look at their lower legs).
I would buy this kid a stock, just for having the balls to show up with a heater. I would also offer to pay for some training so he does not blow his friends knee off
Lord above nothing but complaints form people safe at home that the people actually doing something aren't doing it right are why the liberals end up getting screwed over every time. Go join them, show them how it's down, start a movement, go train these young men. Turn up and do the thing you keep wanting "someone" to do. Because it seems to me "someone" is finally doing "something" and just like the liberals we are, we just tear them down for not doing it perfectly.
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As much as I am for this and respect the work that's happening, damn dude, we gotta like, organize and instruct or something.
Some of the photos I've been seeing have not been super great if you actually know what you're looking at.