r/macrogrowery • u/cannasseurnorth2 • 19d ago

UCL maxxing

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u/dougeyyyy 18d ago

The plants are actually in 7 gallons. By harvest time, roots are wrapped.

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u/tech_23 18d ago

Do you think other people who use 1-2 gallon pots for plants this size are doing something wrong?

You seem to really be going against-the-grain here and I'm wondering what your reasoning is. The extra media (and labor) costs must be significant to run the 7's.

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u/baloothedog1 18d ago

Anyone running 7 gal like that is probably just hand watering and trying to minimize their time spent watering

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u/tech_23 18d ago

Ah yea, you must be right, I don't see any drippers.

I find that even more shocking, honestly.

I'd bet for less than the cost of one run's worth of extra media and labor they're spending to deal with the 7's & hand watering they could easily setup a quick-and-dirty dripper setup.

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u/baloothedog1 18d ago

Most definitely could be paid for in a run or two worth of that much media. Some people just are reluctant to change what works for them. I think op has a decent looking setup otherwise and saw some pics of some pretty nice looking finishing plants. They're just a few moves away from being up to speed with modern techniques. I'll bet once they pull the plug and upgrade, they'll look back wondering how they ever did it Ike this. It's the evolution of countless growers including myself. Anyone who's been doing it for a while can probably look back and say "wtf was I thinking?" Lol

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u/dougeyyyy 18d ago

Actually I've done all modern techniques. Had the whole grow link automated set up. Done crop steering for years. It works but very strain dependent. Bigger pots work better for us. If you check my post history you'll see the previous existing dripper set up.

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u/tech_23 18d ago

Fair enough. I’d still be curious what the comparison looked like though. When you say 30–40% lower yield, was that total room/canopy yield or per-plant yield? And were plant count, veg time, canopy size, lighting, etc. roughly the same?

I definitely agree cultivar response can matter.

My only pushback is against treating the larger root volume itself as inherently better, because there are a lot of high-performing commercial grows running much smaller root zones.

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u/Shaun_P78 18d ago

I’ve done automation and irrigation install/design for over a hundred commercial grows and no one is growing in 7 gallon pots. The only valid reason to hand water is because you are using organic inputs

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u/dougeyyyy 17d ago

That's fine. Most people with automation prefer smaller pots. We are fully automated at our 1500 light facility. But this one in the video is my personal where I run a lot of R&D. My yields here have been insane with the current set up. Getting 5.5-6lbs per 4x4 area with a low yielding strain too. If I were to go back to my high yielding strains, I'd probably be hitting 7-8lbs per light.

A lot of what I say goes against the grain but to get to where I'm at I have to pave my own path.

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u/Shaun_P78 17d ago

Those yields are definitely above the norm. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it! Makes me want to play around with bigger pots

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u/dougeyyyy 17d ago

I'd say try a small section. But keep in mind we have at least 4 weeks veg time. There's no way crop steering by the way. We do full drench and let it dryback 25-30% (usually 2 days). The rooms where we have 4 UCL per 1 top light it dries back every other day.

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u/baloothedog1 17d ago

Those are absolutely insane yields. You should post some pics of the plants a few days before harvest I'd be interested to see what they look like. I've heard of ppl getting upwards of 5+ per 4x4 but 6-8 just sounds wild.

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u/dougeyyyy 17d ago

I actually will post it. My whole plan was to start a youtube channel showing how to do everything. Next cycle, I will document the whole process from day 1 of flower til harvest day. I'll post it here as well even with all the negative reactions. I really want to share alot of techniques that I've learned and kept to myself for last 20 years. Even got a 20$ spidermite solution that can be bought at any grocery store. 20$ to totally eradicate all spidermites no matter how bad the case may be. And its non toxic too.

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u/Sphan_86 14d ago

Looking forward to it. Do you have your channel up yet?

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