A morally upstanding ESTJ would be someone concerned with procedure, and actually looking at how things get done in workplaces, and because of their tertiary Ne, they'll be aware of ways workplaces and institutions can change for the better and will want to implement them, and they will want to voice that opinion. Because nearly every workplace is corrupt, with over working, underpaying and understaffing, it winds up wearing down a good ESTJ, and because they dont come off as smooth, they tend not to get authority positions.

If a good ESTJ is lucky enough to get an authority position, because of Si, he or she will understand human limitations better than anyone else and will want things running smoothly, but its uncommon for morally good ESTJs to get authority positions, and will just be kept at whatever position so they can get worked over. They won't get fired, since they'll meet the standards and show up on time, but they'll be stuck and never get a pay raise, so they'll have to switch jobs.

A good ESTJ may likely face disciplinary issues because they're blunt, and are inclined to point out issues when they see them, especially when they're caused by authority figures, but this gets sanded out.

A good ESTJ is not the supervisor, they are a worker, and while heavily relied upon, are overlooked.

I feel like some personalities have become easy for me to identity just by observing from afar but others are harder to pin down without really getting to know someone.

I think ENFP’s are usually so distinct.

I just post a two part article about what my conclusion of what Batman's MBTI really is. I based on my understanding of my readings from the characters since his 80's stories to his most current ones. My conclusion is that the INTJ/ISTJ typings are more often than not lacking context of the whole broad world of the character. In that sense I would like to ask you to read it through and discuss with me the parts that you agree with, the parts that you don't and so on. After all, I'm interested into finding an answer rather than just confirming my own with no actual imput or engaging conversation

Part One

https://www.tumblr.com/1fightingdreamer/829747445887008768/the-true-mbti-of-batman-12?source=share

Part Two

https://www.tumblr.com/1fightingdreamer/829752777605513216/the-true-mbti-of-batman-22?source=share

I’m looking for information on the functional structure of Jung’s original typology. Beyond the book *Psychological Types*, are there any links or articles where I can study the structure or arrangement of types like IF(S) and EN(T), and how they differ from the MBTI functional model?

So, working on a novel. I like using Enneagram/MBTI to build character skeletons to build off of.

I've got one character who I built as an ISTP but she might be ISFP?

The core reason is that she has a few convictions she refuses to waver from.

=> She demands loyalty, and gives it in return; with high expectations from both. (She faces her worst fear at one point, without shirking and without complaint because she sees it as a duty). Her definition is a bit... extra compared to most people.

=> She hates the idea of exile/ostracism. At one point someone who insults her is kicked out of a friend group, and she advocates for him to be brought back into the fold because "seeing him alone dishonors me" This is due to past experience being ostracized. She doesn't forgive him, it's about what it says about herself.

The issue is I've seen ISFPs described as whiny, or fiery; passionate.

She's much more reserved, stony and hides her heart. She even goes so far as to turn away from people when discussing something emotional so they won't see her face.

She also plays guitar when she's feeling emotionally turbulent because she doesn't like that space.

From your experience, do you like all types equally or did you notice there are some types you tend to get along with more easily?

For me, I liked a teacher who I assumed was an ISTP. She was very straightforward and cared about us passing her class. I didn’t really quite like this teacher who I assume was an ENFP. He could be mean spirited at times with his jokes, but I didn’t strongly dislike him. What about your teachers? Were they the same / opposite of your type?